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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 17 2009 04:43 GMT
#41
On February 17 2009 13:32 stack wrote:
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On February 17 2009 13:27 koreasilver wrote:
You don't think like that when you play zerg.

thx for the wisdom keemosabi..

But it's true. You don't go out thinking "okay, I'm going to make this many drones for each expansion".
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 17 2009 04:47 GMT
#42
I'd love to see when a zerg progamer has obviously lost the game just make a round of drones and attack with a drone hanbang.
And set up hatcheries, everywhere.
Jaedong
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
February 17 2009 04:49 GMT
#43
On February 17 2009 13:33 Person514cs wrote:
Zerg Macro = Making as many drones as you can without losing.

if you play with this mindset you will lose
I_L_Jl
Profile Joined January 2009
United States225 Posts
February 17 2009 05:34 GMT
#44
On February 17 2009 12:38 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 12:37 I_L_Jl wrote:
On February 17 2009 12:23 koreasilver wrote:
On February 17 2009 12:15 I_L_Jl wrote:
On February 17 2009 11:58 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On February 17 2009 10:40 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Theres no such thing as perfect macro


this.


Savior

Jaedong has better macro than Savior in standard late game play.


In my openion, Savior in prime could keep his min count down(when he needed too), and unit production up better than Jaedong.

This is as dumb as saying that iloveoov had better macro than Flash.


Wow, never realized how "slow" his apm was untill now. Guess I was always just too captivated by his massing to run it through an apm scanner, slower than Storks, crazy.
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 06:32:01
February 17 2009 06:23 GMT
#45
Hmm well honestly I think it's both great micro and macro. Yeah that's a lame answer, but spending your minerals efficently is not gonna make you a great zerg.. microing defilers and mutalisks like jaedong probably will however.
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skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
February 17 2009 07:01 GMT
#46
On February 17 2009 13:28 dragonmax wrote:
i think its about 2.5 workers but thats for protoss workers who move faster than zerg/terran


NO!!!!!!
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GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
February 17 2009 07:02 GMT
#47
Don't zergs take their hands off the mouse to 5sz6sz7sz8sz9sz0sz?
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 17 2009 07:12 GMT
#48
On February 17 2009 16:02 GhostKorean wrote:
Don't zergs take their hands off the mouse to 5sz6sz7sz8sz9sz0sz?


A lot of them do yes, after awhile you can support that easy because your hand is so quick.

I can do it with one hand but it's crazy uncomfortable, so much so that'll i'll risk taking my hand off the mouse for a second to hit 8-0
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hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
February 17 2009 08:17 GMT
#49
The way I see it Zerg macro is not only keeping the money low but making the right units at the proper timing in the right amount. So I think it's very very hard to do it right. Much harder than protoss and terran who make workers out of one building and units out of two buildings and pretty much just know to cycle through the buildings and press S, M, C, F, V or T for terran and P, Z, D, T, K, O for toss.
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 17 2009 09:05 GMT
#50
On February 17 2009 12:38 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 12:37 I_L_Jl wrote:
On February 17 2009 12:23 koreasilver wrote:
On February 17 2009 12:15 I_L_Jl wrote:
On February 17 2009 11:58 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On February 17 2009 10:40 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Theres no such thing as perfect macro


this.


Savior

Jaedong has better macro than Savior in standard late game play.


In my openion, Savior in prime could keep his min count down(when he needed too), and unit production up better than Jaedong.

This is as dumb as saying that iloveoov had better macro than Flash.


+1
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17734 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 09:10:45
February 17 2009 09:08 GMT
#51
On February 17 2009 12:37 I_L_Jl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 12:23 koreasilver wrote:
On February 17 2009 12:15 I_L_Jl wrote:
On February 17 2009 11:58 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On February 17 2009 10:40 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Theres no such thing as perfect macro


this.


Savior

Jaedong has better macro than Savior in standard late game play.


In my openion, Savior in prime could keep his min count down(when he needed too), and unit production up better than Jaedong.

If macro was as simple as that.....

Macro isnt just keeping your min count down and unit production;;
Zerg is abit different compared to other toss/terran but macro is mostly timing. When to stop making scv, when to add buildings, knowing the optimal number of facts/rax, expo timing, amount of scv to maynard, etc.

Making depots at the right time, going back to your rax/facts, adding facts/rax when you have surplus, keeping your money down are just parts of macro.

Look at Iloveoov vs Foru fpvod. He gets stuck on supply so much yet he just overwhelms Foru because of his expo timing and the timing that he adds his facts are right on.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 09:34:07
February 17 2009 09:33 GMT
#52
You need perfect or close-to macro as a S-Class Zerg.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17734 Posts
February 17 2009 09:37 GMT
#53
On February 17 2009 16:02 GhostKorean wrote:
Don't zergs take their hands off the mouse to 5sz6sz7sz8sz9sz0sz?

I thought only yellow did that
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
February 17 2009 11:29 GMT
#54
On February 17 2009 16:12 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 16:02 GhostKorean wrote:
Don't zergs take their hands off the mouse to 5sz6sz7sz8sz9sz0sz?


A lot of them do yes, after awhile you can support that easy because your hand is so quick.

I can do it with one hand but it's crazy uncomfortable, so much so that'll i'll risk taking my hand off the mouse for a second to hit 8-0

Source? I also thought just yellow did this.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 17 2009 11:31 GMT
#55
On February 17 2009 18:37 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 16:02 GhostKorean wrote:
Don't zergs take their hands off the mouse to 5sz6sz7sz8sz9sz0sz?

I thought only yellow did that


no idea im a big yellow fan and the way i learnt to sc was to do that lolool
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