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Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
February 10 2009 16:26 GMT
#81
It's silly to try to guess at Nony's motivations for going home when you don't know anything about the situation. Leaving early doesn't mean he didn't consider all the factors before he went, or that he somehow underestimated the commitment that would be needed. Shit happens, things change. Something may have come up that he couldn't have foreseen.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
February 10 2009 16:31 GMT
#82
On February 10 2009 22:18 Pafnucy wrote:
maybe it was planned to be a fun vacation time and nice experience for a month or two. How about that? But so many people started having expectations, put their progaming dream on that person and thought hes gonna represent foreign scene.

in case it was planned and college, girlfriend, life > progaming. Then why not let someone else go, a person who would stay and try.


Dude. Shit happens.


Anyways, best of luck to Nony and I hope to see him in the foreigner scene in the future.



It felt like gravity.
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
February 10 2009 17:06 GMT
#83
I pointed out one possibility, I'm sorry for doing so, excuse me. People overly excited about Nony who had expectations and shit could bear the fact he left Estro more lightly if they thought about this possibility.

Good job on getting angry about me hating Nony. Reread original post and notice how hostile it was!
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
February 10 2009 17:09 GMT
#84
On February 11 2009 02:06 Pafnucy wrote:
I pointed out one possibility, I'm sorry for doing so, excuse me. People overly excited about Nony who had expectations and shit could bear the fact he left Estro more lightly if they thought about this possibility.

Good job on getting angry about me hating Nony. Reread original post and notice how hostile it was!



you could possibly be a tranny posting from the bottom of the ocean. Who cares.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
February 10 2009 17:16 GMT
#85
On February 11 2009 02:06 Pafnucy wrote:
I pointed out one possibility, I'm sorry for doing so, excuse me. People overly excited about Nony who had expectations and shit could bear the fact he left Estro more lightly if they thought about this possibility.

Good job on getting angry about me hating Nony. Reread original post and notice how hostile it was!

you basically implied that Nony deceived eStro and really didn't care about progaming, but rather wanted to go to korea for a vacation, and that they were better off picking someone else who "would actually try." that's as negative as it gets, far more hostile and insulting than the others simply flaming him, because they at least didn't question his intentions in the beginning or make it seem like he planned to quit all along.

here is another possibility: you are an idiot.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-10 19:32:27
February 10 2009 17:50 GMT
#86
People hate on Idra, but he's the only one with the heart to stick with it. He may be abrasive, but he has my respect.

Now with Daniel Lee out of the picture and SC2's imminent release, I doubt we will see anymore foreigners going to Korea.
FBH is insurance.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5838 Posts
February 10 2009 18:11 GMT
#87
I hope to see you in SC2, Nony, you have what it takes! Good luck in RL.
Xela
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada203 Posts
February 10 2009 18:33 GMT
#88
GL with whatever you'll do in your life, you seem like a really nice person. Personnally, the video where you went to the finals at Courage got me more excited than alot of OSL/MSL finals between pro-gamers.

It's your desicion but it's sad to see another foreigner leaving Korea :S
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
February 10 2009 18:37 GMT
#89
All I can say is I'm disappointed.
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
February 10 2009 19:27 GMT
#90
On February 11 2009 02:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
...

here is another possibility: you are an idiot.


+1
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
February 10 2009 19:35 GMT
#91
Nony can do whatever he wants to do, if he wants to go back because of some personal reasons then its his decision and we have no right to start negatively criticizing his actions. I will always cheer for him and I hope everything is all right with him, nothing too serious or so. Nony Fighting!!
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
February 10 2009 20:04 GMT
#92
we want an interview

how was it there, what did he enjoy, what he did not...

give sex :D
I am not good with quotes
GnomeSpeed
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4 Posts
February 10 2009 20:09 GMT
#93
He shouldn't have gone in the first place if he didn't plan on gutting it out. Just a spot taken from someone with passion.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
February 10 2009 20:11 GMT
#94
On February 11 2009 05:09 GnomeSpeed wrote:
He shouldn't have gone in the first place if he didn't plan on gutting it out. Just a spot taken from someone with passion.

obviously he didn't plan on leaving after a few months when he first went there, and theres no way to anticipate missing home, the practice conditions, etc without actually experiencing it.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
February 10 2009 20:26 GMT
#95
i haven't been following much of this stuff, but still wanna wish Nony GL he's a good guy =]
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
GnomeSpeed
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4 Posts
February 10 2009 20:30 GMT
#96
He has a good life in the USA. I think it was easy to anticipate missing family, friends, girlfriends, sex, girls, good food. I just think he underestimated the commitment.
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
February 10 2009 20:30 GMT
#97
On February 11 2009 05:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2009 05:09 GnomeSpeed wrote:
He shouldn't have gone in the first place if he didn't plan on gutting it out. Just a spot taken from someone with passion.

obviously he didn't plan on leaving after a few months when he first went there, and theres no way to anticipate missing home, the practice conditions, etc without actually experiencing it.

I wonder if he tried kai-bi there.....in my opinion, thats more then or equal to everything he left behind
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
February 10 2009 20:31 GMT
#98
On February 11 2009 05:09 GnomeSpeed wrote:
He shouldn't have gone in the first place if he didn't plan on gutting it out. Just a spot taken from someone with passion.

I'm confident there aren't more than 10 people playing StarCraft who have Nony's passion.
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akio123
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States46 Posts
February 10 2009 20:32 GMT
#99
Nony still owes me a game of team melee
GnomeSpeed
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4 Posts
February 10 2009 20:33 GMT
#100
Then i guess my definition of passion is incorrect.
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