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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 10 2009 08:58 GMT
#61
lmao 'he will go pro poker'

wat
why so 진지해?
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
February 10 2009 10:11 GMT
#62
lol @ courage being easy.......... dude you cant even finish top 16 at a wcg let alone second in courage.............. courage tourney is harder then any countries wcg id have to say and youd have chance in 0
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zuqbu
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany797 Posts
February 10 2009 11:17 GMT
#63
at wcg i wished nony the best of luck for his time in korea. although he didn't pass courage, i think he did well under the circumstances. gl in the future nony!
o_O
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
February 10 2009 11:24 GMT
#64
good luck at everything you do, nony
aka. Samael
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
February 10 2009 12:33 GMT
#65
Why?:-(
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
February 10 2009 12:41 GMT
#66
Sad to see you go so soon after a promising start but i wish you good luck with your life
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
February 10 2009 12:55 GMT
#67
This is really depressing, like I already said.
So little hope for foreigners making it big in Korea now D:

BTW, can we NOT let this thread turn into "lol omg at leest we haz idra guise!"
Idra's cool and all (in my opinion), but this thread isn't about him. It's about NonY.
FUCKING GAY LAGS
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
February 10 2009 13:09 GMT
#68
so disappointing..... i remember like 1 month ago you said that you really want to succeed and play a proleague match.
How can that strong wish get overcome by other reasons in just 1 month?


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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
February 10 2009 13:11 GMT
#69
gl hf
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
February 10 2009 13:18 GMT
#70
maybe it was planned to be a fun vacation time and nice experience for a month or two. How about that? But so many people started having expectations, put their progaming dream on that person and thought hes gonna represent foreign scene.

in case it was planned and college, girlfriend, life > progaming. Then why not let someone else go, a person who would stay and try.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 10 2009 13:20 GMT
#71
and maybe he came over with the intention of starting nuclear war with north korea?
lets see what other wild bullshit we can pull out of our asses to make him seem like a bad guy!~
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Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
February 10 2009 13:26 GMT
#72
On February 10 2009 22:20 IdrA wrote:
and maybe he came over with the intention of starting nuclear war with north korea?
lets see what other wild bullshit we can pull out of our asses to make him seem like a bad guy!~


to handsome for beeing bad
SaVaGeS
Profile Joined February 2009
7 Posts
February 10 2009 14:32 GMT
#73
I'm disapointed, but I can't blame him for his decisions. He knows himself best.
TehKris
Profile Joined October 2006
Norway322 Posts
February 10 2009 14:44 GMT
#74
Foreigners just can't make it in Korea. Sad but true. Still it must have been a nice adventure.
Pro Red Alert 2 gamer, aka TR)Microzone on sc.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
February 10 2009 15:09 GMT
#75
You know, I realized none of you mentioned this yet but I remember something about NonY when he was admitted for Estro....

..that HE'S A FREAKING DUKE GRADUATE!!!!!!!!!! Obviously even if it's not Starcraft anymore, as far as I remember, being a Duke graduate does mean something! It means he has a higher chance than most of us here in securing a nice good freaking job that's like 1000 times better pay than a typical average salary of being a progamer.....

So I'm not worried or concern for him much regarding his future..... I do though, wish the best of luck and future for him! But like I said... Duke University...
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TrainReq
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada113 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-10 15:12:11
February 10 2009 15:11 GMT
#76
On February 11 2009 00:09 QuickStriker wrote:
You know, I realized none of you mentioned this yet but I remember something about NonY when he was admitted for Estro....

..that HE'S A FREAKING DUKE GRADUATE!!!!!!!!!! Obviously even if it's not Starcraft anymore, as far as I remember, being a Duke graduate does mean something! It means he has a higher chance than most of us here in securing a nice good freaking job that's like 1000 times better pay than a typical average salary of being a progamer.....

So I'm not worried or concern for him much regarding his future..... I do though, wish the best of luck and future for him! But like I said... Duke University...


You do realize top tier progamers makes a lot of money, right?
Don't put your fingers where you wouldn't put your dick.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
February 10 2009 15:18 GMT
#77
On February 11 2009 00:11 TrainReq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2009 00:09 QuickStriker wrote:
You know, I realized none of you mentioned this yet but I remember something about NonY when he was admitted for Estro....

..that HE'S A FREAKING DUKE GRADUATE!!!!!!!!!! Obviously even if it's not Starcraft anymore, as far as I remember, being a Duke graduate does mean something! It means he has a higher chance than most of us here in securing a nice good freaking job that's like 1000 times better pay than a typical average salary of being a progamer.....

So I'm not worried or concern for him much regarding his future..... I do though, wish the best of luck and future for him! But like I said... Duke University...


You do realize top tier progamers makes a lot of money, right?


Yes..... hell, BoxeR made 6 figures (in US dollars) at one point annually in his life of progaming... how the hell would I not know that? But for NonY to become a top progamer... well I can see him as a popular favorite but not as a top and besides, think about it, a job where you get like 50k every year plus raises later on vs one good year of 6 figures (if you're really lucky too) after a series of like 4 figures or less amounts of money...... and then go down with your salary again after your fame disappears and you go on a slump... (I'm talking in US dollar btw)
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
February 10 2009 15:20 GMT
#78
On February 11 2009 00:11 TrainReq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2009 00:09 QuickStriker wrote:
You know, I realized none of you mentioned this yet but I remember something about NonY when he was admitted for Estro....

..that HE'S A FREAKING DUKE GRADUATE!!!!!!!!!! Obviously even if it's not Starcraft anymore, as far as I remember, being a Duke graduate does mean something! It means he has a higher chance than most of us here in securing a nice good freaking job that's like 1000 times better pay than a typical average salary of being a progamer.....

So I'm not worried or concern for him much regarding his future..... I do though, wish the best of luck and future for him! But like I said... Duke University...


You do realize top tier progamers makes a lot of money, right?

sure, the top 10 make "a lot" of money, but even then the salary, when taking in security and hours, really isn't that much. every field's top .01% makes a lot, but the average progamer makes very little, comparable to fast food over here.

while i don't agree with the emphasis the other guy puts on the school he attended, it's obviously much easier to make a living doing a normal job.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7326 Posts
February 10 2009 15:56 GMT
#79
On February 10 2009 22:18 Pafnucy wrote:
maybe it was planned to be a fun vacation time and nice experience for a month or two. How about that? But so many people started having expectations, put their progaming dream on that person and thought hes gonna represent foreign scene.

in case it was planned and college, girlfriend, life > progaming. Then why not let someone else go, a person who would stay and try.



some of you are absofuckinglutely braindead.

Jesus christ its not his fault you guys look up to bw players and are shattered when things dont turn out the way you envisioned them in your fairytale. WHy not let someone else go? How many fucking times does it need to be said that its not like other people havent had the chance to go. Fuck why dont you go and go play in courage yourself and maybe get picked up by a pro team? Or shop yourself around? I really doubt theres this plethora of players who are "good" and want to go but are being held at arms length by some mysterious korean hand that says only so and so can go and if you go no one else can go.

Fuck off.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
February 10 2009 16:11 GMT
#80
On February 10 2009 22:18 Pafnucy wrote:
maybe it was planned to be a fun vacation time and nice experience for a month or two. How about that? But so many people started having expectations, put their progaming dream on that person and thought hes gonna represent foreign scene.

in case it was planned and college, girlfriend, life > progaming. Then why not let someone else go, a person who would stay and try.

A lot of people have flamed you saying that you're simply assuming the worst about Nony, which isn't cool. But the real reason your post is dumb is because no one plans a "fun vacation time" in which they're working for 10-12 hours a day.
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