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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
February 11 2009 17:53 GMT
#121
Well NonY I know how it feels, I kinda been thro the same thing on a different sphere of life.

Good luck in your future endeavors and I hope to see you kicking ass in SC2, and hopefully, for all the simplification, the game gets more global and people like you will have a much better shot at being PRO.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
February 11 2009 17:58 GMT
#122
On February 12 2009 02:52 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2009 23:58 Boonbag wrote:
To be honest all of you talking about the "cultural shock" or "change" don't really know what they're talking about.

Korea is ultimately very close to western society.

Moronic post. Don't know what "Western" society you're living in. But personally I've never even seen a PC room. Our e-sports is not anywhere near the level that theirs is on. I mean c'mon, also the language barrier? I can speak to anyone I please over here, for the most part. Who can NonY speak to? Artosis, Tastless, and sometimes IdrA?



Yeah i agree. I live in Asia and i know in terms of culture Korea is still very much traditional compared to china, singapore, taiwan, japan. These 4 countries are the only ones nearer to western laidback culture.
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
February 11 2009 18:20 GMT
#123
i'm not a quiter in nature so i can't agree if reasons are cultural...

i don't know what to say but i can ask this: would he quit korea if he passed that courage and became pro with license?
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-11 18:31:23
February 11 2009 18:30 GMT
#124
On February 12 2009 03:20 purgerinho wrote:
i'm not a quiter in nature so i can't agree if reasons are cultural...

i don't know what to say but i can ask this: would he quit korea if he passed that courage and became pro with license?


Would you ?

Does it matter ?

He probably realized what he was up against and didnt feel it was worth it, after all, he had other options, while for many of those pro players being a PRO is theyr best chance at greatness.
And with sc2 coming out, I think it would get more demotivating everyday(assuming he quit because he wasant satisfied with the current course of action), because it might launch, and suddenly all that time in korea was for nothing, because the whole scene changed.

Theres always to many variables in life, dont judge people.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
February 11 2009 18:32 GMT
#125
i wish nony would release a statement explaining himself. thats his perogative though
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
February 11 2009 18:40 GMT
#126
i totally feel bad for ClouD right now.

totally.
I am not good with quotes
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
February 11 2009 18:52 GMT
#127
On February 12 2009 03:40 s.a.y wrote:
i totally feel bad for ClouD right now.

totally.


why cause he quit without even going to korea??
dont think anyone should feel bad for anyone...
its me
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-11 20:14:27
February 11 2009 20:14 GMT
#128
wrong thread
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
February 12 2009 01:18 GMT
#129
now we only have idra T.T
fuck lag
Qizix
Profile Joined February 2009
3 Posts
February 12 2009 01:34 GMT
#130
I was hoping it was gonna work out for Nony. Especially after watching him in the courage tourny. Good luck to him.
Survival of the Fittest
gdcrimson
Profile Joined January 2009
New Zealand148 Posts
February 12 2009 05:23 GMT
#131
Sad to see, but totally understandable. I can't imagine how hard it is to go to a country like Korea, where everything is so different. Best of luck to you.
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
February 12 2009 11:23 GMT
#132
On February 12 2009 02:52 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2009 23:58 Boonbag wrote:
To be honest all of you talking about the "cultural shock" or "change" don't really know what they're talking about.

Korea is ultimately very close to western society.

Moronic post. Don't know what "Western" society you're living in. But personally I've never even seen a PC room. Our e-sports is not anywhere near the level that theirs is on. I mean c'mon, also the language barrier? I can speak to anyone I please over here, for the most part. Who can NonY speak to? Artosis, Tastless, and sometimes IdrA?


Author of "moronic post" had his episode of being a progamer in Korea. Sure, these were different times when you look at how proteams are run, but looking at his blog might give you some hints on how guy knows their society/culture.

PS comments like "moronic post" don't add much to the discussion.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 12 2009 11:33 GMT
#133
boonbag may have been here, but he doesnt really know anything
it was a moronic post
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Prawned
Profile Joined August 2004
United Kingdom794 Posts
February 12 2009 11:53 GMT
#134
On February 12 2009 02:41 Born)Slippy wrote:
I love how some people - who tend towards being raised or indoctrinated with American capitalist culture - define success or failure, or commitment or lack thereof, in terms of paychecks and digits and career plans.


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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 12 2009 12:02 GMT
#135
On February 12 2009 03:40 s.a.y wrote:
i totally feel bad for ClouD right now.

totally.


You shouldn't. He quit because he didn't make it to Korea his first try. Anyone that quits that easily would've crumpled.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
February 12 2009 12:05 GMT
#136
On February 11 2009 17:47 iG.ClouD wrote:
sigh


Is there still a chance to go to estro?

Or is it too late?
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ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
February 12 2009 12:18 GMT
#137
On February 12 2009 20:33 IdrA wrote:
boonbag may have been here, but he doesnt really know anything
it was a moronic post
^
MC Fighting!~
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
February 12 2009 13:05 GMT
#138
On February 12 2009 20:33 IdrA wrote:
boonbag may have been here, but he doesnt really know anything
it was a moronic post


You might tend to think this because you're beeing sequestred in front of a computer, while you could as well go around and meet the country.

I guess when your needs will expand to something more than just sitting, playing and posting, you'll forget very quick about starcraft.
4N.wInd
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom4 Posts
February 12 2009 18:48 GMT
#139
he took a big impact by failing on PGL, i was actually expecting Nony go much further than where he stopped.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
February 12 2009 19:28 GMT
#140
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