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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 29 2009 14:39 GMT
#21
why would they get rid of war3 before dota
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-29 14:41:59
January 29 2009 14:41 GMT
#22
On January 29 2009 23:34 IdrA wrote:
that'll make the sc2 beta team-forming frenzy alot more interesting

Be honest, do you think the foreigners stand a chance against Koreans in the sc2 frenzy?

I mean, the korean teams already have established training centers and the obvious professionality, I doubt foreigners can really match that.

On January 29 2009 23:39 zulu_nation8 wrote:
why would they get rid of war3 before dota


wtf
ixion
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden81 Posts
January 29 2009 14:41 GMT
#23
On January 29 2009 23:39 zulu_nation8 wrote:
why would they get rid of war3 before dota

thats insane.. and stupid.
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
January 29 2009 14:42 GMT
#24
On January 29 2009 23:35 Dgtl wrote:
Most of these players will probably not retire, they will probably just play less competitive SC then they used. What really bugs me though is that they took down WC3 and SC but left WoW. Like wtf...


omg such fail.

actually i understand why they cut sc (no money in that) but wc3 with grubby and moon?
left WoW?
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 29 2009 14:45 GMT
#25
wtf what you guys think mym dota generates more revenue than mym war3?
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 29 2009 14:48 GMT
#26
On January 29 2009 23:41 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2009 23:34 IdrA wrote:
that'll make the sc2 beta team-forming frenzy alot more interesting

Be honest, do you think the foreigners stand a chance against Koreans in the sc2 frenzy?

I mean, the korean teams already have established training centers and the obvious professionality, I doubt foreigners can really match that.

you kidding?
foreigners are gonna rape the piss out of sc2. the korean system will not work at all for a game like sc2 (at least the direction it is headed), especially not at first. the reason theyre dominant is because they practice 12 hours a day and have build orders for every situation memorized. of course there will be the smart and creative ones like boxer and ra who do well, but in general progamers are good starcraft players, not good rts players. unless they make sc2 as mechanically rigorous as sc the koreans will not be dominant for at least a couple of years.

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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
January 29 2009 14:50 GMT
#27
On January 29 2009 23:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
wtf what you guys think mym dota generates more revenue than mym war3?


No, it was the bloody salaries.


What Idra said.
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Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
January 29 2009 14:51 GMT
#28
MYM have really screwed the Warcraft 3 scene over.
  • Recruit the best players in the world by paying salaries that are way larger than previous seen in the scene.
  • Destroy the scene, because your competitors can't afford such large salaries.
  • Kick your own team, because you can't afford it either.


Don't blame the economy for this either: the current state of the economy only highlights which companies that are run poorly and inefficient. MYM would had folded anyway; the current state of the economy just sped up the process a bit.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 29 2009 14:54 GMT
#29
On January 29 2009 23:50 Showtime! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2009 23:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
wtf what you guys think mym dota generates more revenue than mym war3?


No, it was the bloody salaries.


What Idra said.


o ok im dumb, but kick mym.dota too, russians need to dominate again
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
January 29 2009 14:59 GMT
#30
On January 29 2009 23:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2009 23:50 Showtime! wrote:
On January 29 2009 23:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
wtf what you guys think mym dota generates more revenue than mym war3?


No, it was the bloody salaries.


What Idra said.


o ok im dumb, but kick mym.dota too, russians need to dominate again


Why would they kick their Dota team that cost them almost nothing.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-29 15:05:47
January 29 2009 15:05 GMT
#31
if MYM had/has economy problem, why they paid to their player so much and forced other team to pay also so much?

Most impressive news last year was: MYM paid 100 000$ annual salary to Moon.

imo this is a bad news, bad also a good news
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 29 2009 15:07 GMT
#32
This is simply a failure of their business model. I understand SC which doesn't bring almost any revenue in, but letting w3 team go just because they set up too high contracts is fucked up.


Anyway, it is a disaster for foreign bw scene

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HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
January 29 2009 15:09 GMT
#33
MYMs focus had always been on RTS games. So its the wrong decision even if MYM.CS is more popular than MYM.WC3.

If you asking someone for a CS team. He will answer mibr, sk or mouz, mtw and after these teams MYM. And to change an image from a RTS team to a fps team needs time.

Maybe the WC3 was too expensive. WC3 is dieing harder than SC. So this might be understandable. But why kick an almost for free (in comparison to cs/wc3) sc team with sc2 coming up. As I said its not easy to change an image it would be easier to wait for SC2 to rock foreign esport and stick with cs, dota and sc.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
January 29 2009 15:10 GMT
#34
On January 30 2009 00:07 LemOn wrote:
This is simply a failure of their business model. I understand SC which doesn't bring almost any revenue in, but letting w3 team go just because they set up too high contracts is fucked up.


Anyway, it is a disaster for foreign bw scene




no it isnt lol

its not like in korea where theyd be playing on tv and stuff and now all of a sudden they arent. All it was is a team dying. It happens and has happened all the time to all the money teams in bw. Theyll all join new teams and mym will be forgotten.
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 29 2009 15:16 GMT
#35
On January 30 2009 00:10 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2009 00:07 LemOn wrote:
This is simply a failure of their business model. I understand SC which doesn't bring almost any revenue in, but letting w3 team go just because they set up too high contracts is fucked up.


Anyway, it is a disaster for foreign bw scene




no it isnt lol

its not like in korea where theyd be playing on tv and stuff and now all of a sudden they arent. All it was is a team dying. It happens and has happened all the time to all the money teams in bw. Theyll all join new teams and mym will be forgotten.


I like your optimism Sadist

The reason why this seems horrible for me was MyM being the only sponsored team that really lasted, and you knew even with the problems they had like with chinese players that they would not go under or lose interest.

Just look at how many sponsored multigaming teams took bw squad only to release it 3-8 months later for some stupid reason.
It is going to be very hard to find a stable sponsored team like MyM...
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
January 29 2009 15:20 GMT
#36
On January 30 2009 00:16 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2009 00:10 Sadist wrote:
On January 30 2009 00:07 LemOn wrote:
This is simply a failure of their business model. I understand SC which doesn't bring almost any revenue in, but letting w3 team go just because they set up too high contracts is fucked up.


Anyway, it is a disaster for foreign bw scene




no it isnt lol

its not like in korea where theyd be playing on tv and stuff and now all of a sudden they arent. All it was is a team dying. It happens and has happened all the time to all the money teams in bw. Theyll all join new teams and mym will be forgotten.


I like your optimism Sadist

The reason why this seems horrible for me was MyM being the only sponsored team that really lasted, and you knew even with the problems they had like with chinese players that they would not go under or lose interest.

Just look at how many sponsored multigaming teams took bw squad only to release it 3-8 months later for some stupid reason.
It is going to be very hard to find a stable sponsored team like MyM...



what im saying Is I dont see why its relevant whether they are sponsored or stable because its not like there are an abundance of tournaments out there that people need to travel to or anything.
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
January 29 2009 15:20 GMT
#37
On January 30 2009 00:10 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2009 00:07 LemOn wrote:
This is simply a failure of their business model. I understand SC which doesn't bring almost any revenue in, but letting w3 team go just because they set up too high contracts is fucked up.


Anyway, it is a disaster for foreign bw scene




no it isnt lol

its not like in korea where theyd be playing on tv and stuff and now all of a sudden they arent. All it was is a team dying. It happens and has happened all the time to all the money teams in bw. Theyll all join new teams and mym will be forgotten.


You cant really compare mym to the average money-team that enters the scene a couple of months and then disbands though. The team has been around for more than 3 years now. Thats as long as pG - a team that were also sponsoring their players with free trips to LANs(no salaries though).
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 29 2009 15:25 GMT
#38
and pg died and the foreign scene went on just fine
that was kinda his point
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
January 29 2009 15:26 GMT
#39
On January 29 2009 23:48 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2009 23:41 Puosu wrote:
On January 29 2009 23:34 IdrA wrote:
that'll make the sc2 beta team-forming frenzy alot more interesting

Be honest, do you think the foreigners stand a chance against Koreans in the sc2 frenzy?

I mean, the korean teams already have established training centers and the obvious professionality, I doubt foreigners can really match that.

you kidding?
foreigners are gonna rape the piss out of sc2. the korean system will not work at all for a game like sc2 (at least the direction it is headed), especially not at first. the reason theyre dominant is because they practice 12 hours a day and have build orders for every situation memorized. of course there will be the smart and creative ones like boxer and ra who do well, but in general progamers are good starcraft players, not good rts players. unless they make sc2 as mechanically rigorous as sc the koreans will not be dominant for at least a couple of years.



Last time you posted on the progamer time investment issue (Boxer/Savior interview) you said that apart from a couple of extremes like jaedong progmers in general don't practice nearly as much as we usually think?
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 29 2009 15:30 GMT
#40
no i said most arent as dedicated as people think
the teams still force them to practice 12 hours a day, but most goof off as much as possible beyond that. its the rare few who would rather practice than do almost anything else, giving up free time and what not.
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