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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On July 06 2010 21:38 J1.au wrote: Crushing? Eh, not really. Bisu came very close to losing that. I meant in the morale sense, he really could have pulled off clawing his way back on that one... Like you're seeing the light of day after getting caved in then suddenly rocks fall on your place. Yes, that s2 match will dig a bigger hole in his regular ELO and vZ | ||
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love1another
United States1844 Posts
 I'm glad to see Bisu's still got it. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Rofl his vZ is 1982 and vP is 2009... sKyHigh if you get good at the other two matchups you'll be godlike. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Pufftrees
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
On July 25 2010 05:02 flamewheel wrote: Jaedong sets a new record for vP with 2322 after last night. Monster owns both peak vZ and peak vP. Now you've just got to work past imba vT! while he probably wont make get the overall #1 from flash, he might be the #1 zerg soon though currently at 2265 (personal best), yellows record is only 7 points away I wonder how long yellow being #1 zvt lasted, like 8 years? | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
hope for good games. flash can break his peak again, doesn't mean it'll be the best game ever | ||
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_romantic
United States455 Posts
On July 07 2010 06:53 Lightwip wrote: Bisu is now the 4th highest vZ by ELO after Flash, Light, and JD. Unfortunately, that doesn't help him beat anyone... | ||
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bentnormal
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
On August 19 2010 14:46 l0st_romantic wrote: Unfortunately, that doesn't help him beat anyone... keep the hate to your own lousy thread | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:01 Djin)ftw( wrote: while he probably wont make get the overall #1 from flash, he might be the #1 zerg soon though currently at 2265 (personal best), yellows record is only 7 points away I wonder how long yellow being #1 zvt lasted, like 8 years? yellow having the best zvt elo of all time shows how dumb elo is for bw | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:54 Mindcrime wrote: yellow having the best zvt elo of all time shows how dumb elo is for bw Why's that? | ||
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Starstuff
Croatia60 Posts
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AleC
332 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:59 Starstuff wrote: Im not following ELO that closely but im certain Flash broke 2400+ earlier this year... but in the OP it says 2336. Well the OP was posted in January of 09 so it's not exactly updated I think | ||
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:54 Mindcrime wrote: yellow having the best zvt elo of all time shows how dumb elo is for bw from the beginning of his career to his zvt peak, yellow was winning about 66% of his games against terran, and a lot of those losses didn't hurt him much because they were to terrans with very high tvz elo like boxer and nada. i don't think it's dumb at all it makes a lot of sense actually. Jaedong's win rate vT is only slightly lower than Yellow's was, and like Yellow, he tends to beat lesser terrans most of the time and only lose to the best of them. the slight inflation in elo over time can account for JD being only so slightly behind despite having a 3% worse win rate. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:54 Mindcrime wrote: yellow having the best zvt elo of all time shows how dumb elo is for bw Wait what? Are you an idiot or something? Yellow maintained 67% wins for over two years to achieve that peak. And out of the 82 ZvT games he played during that time period, 20 were against Boxer. To give you an idea, Jaedong is 74-41 (64%) in the past 24 months with only 16 games played against Flash. A lower win percentage and a much lower percentage of games played against S-class rivals. ELO isn't the best measure of SC skill, and it often is terribly inaccurate when comparing cross-generational achievement (for instance, Savior at his peak was maintaining about 70% wins in ZvT for about 2 years, but played far fewer games during that time period, and furthermore, many changes happen to metagame affecting things like balance and how easy it is to maintain dominance in a match-up -- for example ZvZ has always been somewhat of a coinflip, but overtime it's been steadily becoming less of a coinflip... 60% wins in that MU used to be jaw-dropping amazing, but now it's actually common among top ZvZ players -- not to mention that many top SC players burst forth as rookies and can take down S-class giants even while though their ELO ranks indicate they shouldn't be able to)... But where you come off on this notion that Yellow is not worthy of the highest level of honors for his ZvT is absolutely beyond me. I can only think that you must have started watching SC long after Yellow's peak had come to an end. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
Oh, yeah, he strung some wins together against terrans to get a meaninglessly high elo. Look what happened right after his peak vt elo. He lost yet another bo5 vs. a terran. Look at all the bo5s he played against terrans in the two major leagues. Do you know what his record is in those bo5s? Its 0-8 | ||
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