• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:43
CET 10:43
KST 18:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !1Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win1Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft2.fi 15th Anniversary Cup RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO8 - Day 1 - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread The 2048 Game Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
How Sleep Deprivation Affect…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1855 users

MyStarcraft (FM-like SCSim) with Translation Guide - Page 12

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 36 Next All
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 31 2008 21:47 GMT
#221
dang, this game is HARD. something like 4-16 in my first season with KTF, flash and lux out in Ro32
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
December 31 2008 22:23 GMT
#222
pretty hard game. I have one question. Do practice games have any effect at all?
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 31 2008 22:33 GMT
#223
... I'm completely failing, what's the general strategy to get your players to perform well? :/ (I'm using KTF)
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 31 2008 23:06 GMT
#224
On January 01 2009 07:33 Pokebunny wrote:
... I'm completely failing, what's the general strategy to get your players to perform well? :/ (I'm using KTF)


Use the condition training, ALWAYS BUY GUM, start out with hot packs on your main players. Also dont count on Flash to win you alot, his stats are good but he loses, Alot.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 31 2008 23:20 GMT
#225
- Buy loads of gum, use them on all of your guys in every game.
- Use players on maps that favor them (IE; play Best on a P-favoured map with high resources).
- Don't use players when their condition is below ~95%.
- The 'Rest' action is really useful, it's pretty much all I need to get through a season with all of my main guys above 95% condition.
- Don't spend your money on stat-boosting items until you have a solid team of good players.
- Most zergs blow chunks, only a few like JD, July, and the twins are worth getting early on. Later on some of the other zergs can become monsters (Like in one of my games, By.Great has 900+ in just about everything).
Koiru
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States116 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-01 00:05:26
December 31 2008 23:59 GMT
#226
I just joined tl.net to post this picture. hello all

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Bogus is my ACE player just for laughs but now hes 2-0 after he beat boxer in a few minutes.
EDIT: 3-0, he just beat savior on NeoHarmony.


Great game by the way, I just wish July didn't slump so hard.
Pants optional.
DrywMz
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States394 Posts
January 01 2009 00:17 GMT
#227
Starting with CJ, by season 3 I bought Ruby, by season 4 he won "My Star League". The most consistent zerg I have is Kwanro but I only put him on maps with low rush distance and is Z favored while I used Savior and Jaedong on other maps.
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-01 00:39:34
January 01 2009 00:22 GMT
#228
Jeddus Tips

1. Develop the Team Around a Star
Your team needs to be built around someone.
While it is important to strive for a solid lineup and backup you can count on in the clutch, I find it helpful to overload one of your teams top players with preferred treatment. By that I mean baby him with the Vita Drink to keep his condition up around 95+, get him a K-SILVER Mouse and Keyboard, throw that power ring on him, buy him a monitor, and pop some gum in his mouth. If you can't afford the best gear, I suggest a Mickey Mouse, Umbrella keyboard, and Wrist warmers. It might be unnecessary as I spent my third season without a lot of gear and just saved money (in order to purchase Nal_Ra and Boxer for sentimental reasons...)

Alternate between resting and practicing to help boost his stats throughout the season.
My team was SKT1 and my star was BeSt. BeSt finished Season III at 22 W 3 L before the playoffs. He led the team in stats all three seasons and won the first Starleague (although that seems to be a lot of luck.) and as I have stopped buying him equipment he's at 74-28.

2.The Star needs Wingmen for Support
After running some in-house tournaments to figure out our strongest players (and simply judging their stats) I picked one player as my Stars main support. On SKT1 Bisu was the obvious choice. I outfitted Bisu with similar gear as BeSt once it was affordable. His record was 17-6, although a lot of that was me sending him out without his gum or vita drink on accident. Overall he made Ro4 in Season 1, Ro32 in Season 2, and Ro16 in Season 3. 64-31 record overall.

My second wingman was Midas. Midas had solid stats all around and could win consistently. He posted a final record of 13-9 by the end of the regular season, and managed Ro4 in Season 3 losing to SangHo (who is pretty beastly.) Previously he made the Ro16 in our worst season. Overall he's 53-35.

With those guys I rest and train consistently through the season. At the end of Season 3, I transitioned Midas into my star, buying him all the best equipment. He has a number of stats above 1000 now and in these seasons in-house tournament he is consistently beating BeSt and Bisu.

Develop a B-Team
It is good to keep a second string of players who may even be congruent to your Big Three in ability. My 4th place player was Canata (8-3) who usually earns his way into Ro32 or Dual Tournament, My 5th place player is GoRush (he didn't compete in Season 3, I kept him training with all his action points though) and he had some big wins in the first season. My 6th place player is Fantasy, who I also spend time developing his stats in training, and should Canata or Midas be out of comission I run him in the matches.

Milk the Money
All my "scrubs" spend their action points on holding fan meetings. Something like 11 players or so spending every 200 action points on fan meetings boosts your funds significantly. I used the money to outfit Midas in superstar gear, acquire Boxer from ACE (trading Mujuk) and purchasing Nal_Ra from the free agent pool.

In season 3 in every match we would go Bisu, BeSt, Midas, then Canata. Most games we would 3:0 it, except CJ seemed to have our number.

My team went 16-6, 16-6, and 19-3(+39)
We won the playoffs three seasons in a row.

Now I am trying mad scientist stuff, like loading Boxer with attack poisons and seeing how much damage he does when he heals his condition back... going to try different gear configurations too.

I don't recommend save hacking to those who are trying to learn the game, it is true you can make a pretty wicked team, but it is kind of against the spirit of the game.


Other people have posted a good summary:
Use gum.
Keep condition up.
Rest and Train.
Pick players who are advantageous to the maps.
sex appeal
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
January 01 2009 01:10 GMT
#229
Haha in my first season as CJ, sAviOr has beaten bisu 3 times, once on andromeda in like the second match, then in the next encounter haflway through the season, they vsed in game 4 on colloseum and sAviOr won, then in ace i picked savior and he beat bisu on andromeda again.

Wish this translated to real proleague t.t.
sAviOr...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51506 Posts
January 01 2009 01:25 GMT
#230
has anyone actually managed to go a perfect season? (24-0)?

my uber team always seems to stumble at one part of the season.... i was having free-reign over the competition (never got to an ace match) then out of no where cj 3-2's me.
Commentator
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-01 02:01:25
January 01 2009 01:33 GMT
#231
I came close several times, going 21-1 and 20-2 pretty often. But random crap like your star players losing to chumps like zergjoaa (Seriously, who the hell is this guy?) screws everything up.
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 01 2009 01:38 GMT
#232
Haha, type-b won my first starleague. This is so crazy addictive.
parasite
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
January 01 2009 01:39 GMT
#233
Does anyone have any suggestions on starting cj, like what to do, who to send on what maps, who to train etc. (i just finished first season, finished 10th infront of estro and ace lolol)

I'm still getting used to this.
sAviOr...
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-01 01:57:27
January 01 2009 01:54 GMT
#234
On January 01 2009 10:25 GTR-2-Go wrote:
has anyone actually managed to go a perfect season? (24-0)?

my uber team always seems to stumble at one part of the season.... i was having free-reign over the competition (never got to an ace match) then out of no where cj 3-2's me.


not yet, I just went 20-2 (or 21-2 counting the finals)

I lost to KTF and KHAN early on, I was being kind of lazy that season.. Midas and Bisu both made Ro8 (20-3 season for Midas before post season I think)

I'm playing with out of the box SKT1, I think I would manage a perfect season if I just focused more on those matches I don't feel are important to my end goal (or spent a season just saving cash then maxing out the gear on my starting lineup and blasting through the next one)

I think my goal should be perfect season and then take the starleague (which is sort of a pipedream anyways...still only won the first time, and that guy hasn't made it past Ro32 since)
sex appeal
Koiru
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States116 Posts
January 01 2009 02:04 GMT
#235
How do you fire players? I'm at the season screen and the words are there but when i click the word nothing happens.
Pants optional.
frankbg
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada335 Posts
January 01 2009 02:04 GMT
#236
On January 01 2009 06:30 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2008 20:06 frankbg wrote:
yo someone explain how to mod your saves or the game (english version) to get all that money like GTR did, i toyed with the files in ultraedit but couldnt find any value for the money


That makes it no fun! you have to play through the game and get the money for stuff slowly


This game is no fun. No matter what you do, your best players suck ass and the more they lose, the more their abilities go down the drain, I never have money for equipments/items yet all the other teams are fully equipped. I played 17 seasons without cheating, that enough for you, Mr Internet justice?

I have Lecaf with: Luxury, Stork, Flash, Jaedong, BackHo, BeSt, fOrGG, HiyA, Young, GGPlay, Juni, Anytime, Really and zergjoaa and my record over 17 seasons is 114-263 (sets: 577-938). So tell me, should I get MORE stars maybe? They ALL slump and end up with HORRIBLE stats (eg: stork is under 600 in ever stat, regardless of training and resting, just because he went on a slump that led into a bigger slump that led him into a shitty b-class scrub).

Seriously I just want someone to point out the line to edit or something ... not give me an ethics class about how cheating (in a single player) is so wrong and evil.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 01 2009 02:09 GMT
#237
Much, sAviOr, EffOrt got 3-0d by YellOw, Reach, OversKy.

Fuck this shit.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 01 2009 02:16 GMT
#238
This game can get pretty frustrating; I ragequit a few times like when Bisu lost to Hiya in the Starleague finals. ~.~
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
January 01 2009 02:17 GMT
#239
On January 01 2009 11:04 Koiru wrote:
How do you fire players? I'm at the season screen and the words are there but when i click the word nothing happens.


Select your own team from the drop down and I think you can fire them
sex appeal
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-01 02:26:29
January 01 2009 02:24 GMT
#240
On January 01 2009 11:04 frankbg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2009 06:30 d(O.o)a wrote:
On December 31 2008 20:06 frankbg wrote:
yo someone explain how to mod your saves or the game (english version) to get all that money like GTR did, i toyed with the files in ultraedit but couldnt find any value for the money


That makes it no fun! you have to play through the game and get the money for stuff slowly


This game is no fun. No matter what you do, your best players suck ass and the more they lose, the more their abilities go down the drain, I never have money for equipments/items yet all the other teams are fully equipped. I played 17 seasons without cheating, that enough for you, Mr Internet justice?

I have Lecaf with: Luxury, Stork, Flash, Jaedong, BackHo, BeSt, fOrGG, HiyA, Young, GGPlay, Juni, Anytime, Really and zergjoaa and my record over 17 seasons is 114-263 (sets: 577-938). So tell me, should I get MORE stars maybe? They ALL slump and end up with HORRIBLE stats (eg: stork is under 600 in ever stat, regardless of training and resting, just because he went on a slump that led into a bigger slump that led him into a shitty b-class scrub).

Seriously I just want someone to point out the line to edit or something ... not give me an ethics class about how cheating (in a single player) is so wrong and evil.


Ethics or not, I'm not sure why you would be getting worked over so badly.

Do you keep their condition up above 95%?

As far as money, take all your non-players and make them hold fan meetings as soon as they hit 200 Action points. Do this all season long!

With that team I think my lineup would be:
Really
BeSt
Jaedong
Stork

I would save the money you get from Fan Meetings for the K-Silver equipment and Power Ring for Jaedong, Best, or Really ASAP. The other guys would probably get wrist warmers, a mickey mouse, and an umbrella keyboard as the season progresses.

Try to keep 8 Vita Drinks on hand for your lineup (even moreso than the other gear), and keep curing Really, Best, and Jaedong (if that is your starting three) since their condition will drop often.

If that doesn't work, you can send me your save file for 17 seasons and I can see if I can come up with a strategy to pull your guys out of their slump!
sex appeal
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 36 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 200
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 2068
Rain 2052
Larva 431
GuemChi 422
Jaedong 316
actioN 292
Sharp 223
Aegong 141
Soma 136
BeSt 133
[ Show more ]
ZerO 111
Dewaltoss 103
Rush 99
Hyun 96
Killer 73
sorry 65
EffOrt 64
Light 64
Bisu 39
Sacsri 28
Mong 28
hero 27
Mind 21
Bale 8
JYJ 7
Terrorterran 5
Dota 2
XcaliburYe186
capcasts86
BananaSlamJamma1
League of Legends
JimRising 446
C9.Mang0415
Counter-Strike
summit1g10912
olofmeister1022
shoxiejesuss480
allub136
oskar85
Other Games
Happy329
Fuzer 162
Livibee64
Mew2King41
Trikslyr34
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick612
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH199
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota246
League of Legends
• Jankos1241
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17m
WardiTV 2025
2h 17m
Spirit vs YoungYakov
Rogue vs Nice
Scarlett vs Reynor
TBD vs Clem
uThermal vs Shameless
PiGosaur Cup
15h 17m
WardiTV 2025
1d 2h
MaNa vs Gerald
TBD vs MaxPax
ByuN vs TBD
TBD vs ShoWTimE
OSC
1d 5h
YoungYakov vs Mixu
ForJumy vs TBD
Percival vs TBD
Shameless vs TBD
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV 2025
2 days
Cure vs Creator
TBD vs Solar
WardiTV 2025
3 days
OSC
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL 21
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.