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Hong Kong20321 Posts
DUDEI LOVE RH3 YAAAAAAA BABY :D
but man this must be a bitch for the progamers lol
like what the F all those hours practicing raidassault2 have all gone to sHIT
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Is this their way of trying to balance the protoss overdose?
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Oh, dats nice, although the few non-zvzs on RA did produce some interesting games.
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On November 21 2008 08:21 alffla wrote:
DUDEI LOVE RH3 YAAAAAAA BABY :D
but man this must be a bitch for the progamers lol
like what the F all those hours practicing raidassault2 have all gone to sHIT
Imo RH3 is more IMBA, haha
ZVP only Hydra = Free Win :D
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What you mean if i remeber right its like longi terran gets easy defend 3 bases and rapes the protoss
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this is for Oov's nostalgic
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Whoa...
Rush Hour 3 is good, but I hope they eventually bring back Ride of Valkyries...
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Aww fuck I really liked RA II one of the most unique maps around and brought some really cool tvz plays.
Pretty soon Luna is going to be back at this rate...
Or maybe peaks...or even unlikelier...nostalgia?
Hopefully rh3 is going to limit all the protoss trends.
Such an amazing map for tvz /pvz though, hated the pvt on it.
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sweet, a terran favoured map!
didnt get to see this the first time around, so im excited.
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Ah man how could you compare RH3 to Luna  Rush Hour is a fucking awesome map, I have always loved it.
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On November 21 2008 08:38 SpiralArchitect wrote:Ah man how could you compare RH3 to Luna Rush Hour is a fucking awesome map, I have always loved it.
Not comparing, Luna is considerably balanced and with this map shuffling going around for the sake of balanced competition, its possible i t might get resurrected.
Rh3 is balanced with some sketchy scenarios in PvT, but its got flair and style, especially when it comes down to those TvZs. Such sick tvzs pvzs on this map.
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On November 21 2008 08:40 FaCE_1 wrote:now.. they need to bring back a island map :D Hall of Valhalla please :D
gorky would b cool
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This is going to affect team structures. ZvZ specialist won't have so much weight since RAII is out and RH3 doesn't enforce ZvZ or sending out a sniper T. I don't think it will help T1 that much, since their zergs royally suck in all mu's, but other teams might be able to liberate their zergs for other maps and mu's.
I feel sorry for UpMagic, but he can still come out on Requiem.
Btw, bringing in an island map would be nice. A nice island map from time to time it's fun to watch. I'm all for it.
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YEA RH3
MY ALL TIME FAVORITE MAP !!!!! YAY
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This is much better now, hopefully Harmony has been changed that way there is less TvT. This promotes more non mirror games (because zergs cant trust mirror strength anymore).
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Rush Hour THree was a nice map glad its back :D
And like others have said hopefully this new Harmony is going to be more balanced, the map seems to have too much potential for it to be scrapped in my opinion. So, this is a great change.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
RH3 is one of the best "standard" maps ever imho (unlike Luna, which is garbage).
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Sweden33719 Posts
What's that, the 3rd to 5th most overplayed map of all time is back?
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Kespa is trying to contain the abnormal Protoss ownage by bringing back a TvP imba map.
RH3 PvT: 6-18 (25%) Stats like that don't lie.
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I want Neo forte to come back... easily best map ever! (astleast the most asthetically pleasing).
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On November 21 2008 10:05 TheTyranid wrote:
Kespa is trying to contain the abnormal Protoss ownage by bringing back a TvP imba map.
RH3 PvT: 6-18 (25%) Stats like that don't lie.
PvT has evolved a lot since 2006. I'm interested in seeing how today's Super-protosses handle the old challenge. ;D
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Wtf... if you're bringing an old map back, bring Lost fucking Temple, not rh3
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On November 21 2008 10:51 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Wtf... if you're bringing an old map back, bring Lost fucking Temple, not rh3
i hope youre kidding
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On November 21 2008 10:59 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 10:51 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Wtf... if you're bringing an old map back, bring Lost fucking Temple, not rh3 i hope youre kidding
Into The Darkness 2 imo
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Canada9720 Posts
i like the map, but my god is pvt frustrating on it
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On November 21 2008 11:05 IzzyCraft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 10:59 Pokebunny wrote:On November 21 2008 10:51 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Wtf... if you're bringing an old map back, bring Lost fucking Temple, not rh3 i hope youre kidding Into The Darkness 2 imo
Man ITD2 was such a pimp map, one of my all time favorites!
As for the TvP imbalance of RH3, if I remember correctly didnt P rack up alot of losses from 13nexing several games and getting raped?
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As long as it decreases the amount of mirrors (i.e ZvZ on RA2), I'm all for it. Also, I love games on Rush Hour, so many memorable games.
I think P's have gotten significantly better in playstyle since the last time they played this map so I doubt it will be the imba people say it was.
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is awesome32278 Posts
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On November 21 2008 11:26 Oystein wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 11:05 IzzyCraft wrote:On November 21 2008 10:59 Pokebunny wrote:On November 21 2008 10:51 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Wtf... if you're bringing an old map back, bring Lost fucking Temple, not rh3 i hope youre kidding Into The Darkness 2 imo Man ITD2 was such a pimp map, one of my all time favorites! As for the TvP imbalance of RH3, if I remember correctly didnt P rack up alot of losses from 13nexing several games and getting raped?
fuck yes!
intothedarkness is the most underrated map ever
it like never gets mentioned
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United States13896 Posts
Martha's ProLeague recipe: Add a little RH3, and extract RA2. It's a good thing.
+ Show Spoiler +Don't ask me why Martha Stewart popped into my head when I read this topic
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There might be a game between savior and oov on this map. That might be interesting.
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nice change, less ZvZ! more XvY where X!=Y and X,YE {P,T,Z}
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I think RA3 had another round in it of TvZs using the 1 base mech/valc/fantasy build.
Edit: RA3 got better as time went on and I think Kespa pulled it prematurely since their seemed to be a lot more TvZs at the end of the round than at the beginning of the round. (and the Terrans were actually winning convincingly for the most part)
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Any pictures or details on what was fixed about Harmony?
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Rush Hour was its my favorite map ever....
SPL its the best instance of SC:BW....
FUCK YES!!!
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I liked Raid Assault 2, haven't even seen the updated ZvP/PvT on it yet.
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Oh great I love RH3! 
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On November 21 2008 13:18 SayaSP wrote:
OMG YES
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gay
ra wasnt really imbalanced. most terran progamers just dont think enough. theres a reason upmagic went like 4-0 on it or somethin
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All Lies!!
Bifrost should come back
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On November 21 2008 08:38 SpiralArchitect wrote:Ah man how could you compare RH3 to Luna Rush Hour is a fucking awesome map, I have always loved it.
Haha, I saw the thread and immediately searched for this post ;D
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i hate this fucking map =|
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On November 21 2008 11:05 IzzyCraft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 10:59 Pokebunny wrote:On November 21 2008 10:51 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Wtf... if you're bringing an old map back, bring Lost fucking Temple, not rh3 i hope youre kidding Into The Darkness 2 imo
Silent Vortex 2
thx
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United States17042 Posts
the old players must be loving this- they don't need to worry as much about planning new strats, as they have already practiced for the old maps(although with the old strats)
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On November 21 2008 13:43 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 11:05 IzzyCraft wrote:On November 21 2008 10:59 Pokebunny wrote:On November 21 2008 10:51 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Wtf... if you're bringing an old map back, bring Lost fucking Temple, not rh3 i hope youre kidding Into The Darkness 2 imo Silent Vortex 2 thx
Intresting map but seem very zvt hard for terran and pvt hard for toss with the base set up very longi est but reverse of zvt cuz of no real chokes in the middle
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On November 21 2008 08:24 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 08:21 alffla wrote:
DUDEI LOVE RH3 YAAAAAAA BABY :D
but man this must be a bitch for the progamers lol
like what the F all those hours practicing raidassault2 have all gone to sHIT Imo RH3 is more IMBA, haha ZVP only Hydra = Free Win :D
did u watch savior vs reach in uzoo msl finals? savior goes only hydra on this map and gets raped really hard..
edit : if u guys think this map is balanced look at the tvp stats http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/10_Rush_Hour_3 18 wins for t 6 for p lol
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On November 21 2008 13:56 cujo2k wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 08:24 emucxg wrote:On November 21 2008 08:21 alffla wrote:
DUDEI LOVE RH3 YAAAAAAA BABY :D
but man this must be a bitch for the progamers lol
like what the F all those hours practicing raidassault2 have all gone to sHIT Imo RH3 is more IMBA, haha ZVP only Hydra = Free Win :D did u watch savior vs reach in uzoo msl finals? savior goes only hydra on this map and gets raped really hard.. edit : if u guys think this map is balanced look at the tvp stats http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/10_Rush_Hour_3 18 wins for t 6 for p lol
thats quite all right, flash is the only person to have won a televised tvp on medusa
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Wait, how is this considered Z imbalanced? T's seem to fair good against Zerg and it doesn't seem to have a lot of play time yet. Is there anywhere to find a better explanation?
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They should bring back "Jim Raynor's Memory"
That was a good map.
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United States3824 Posts
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Korea (South)922 Posts
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rush hour is fun map for tvz
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Wawa awesome! I loved rush hour 3.
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RH3 is cool, but I think ROV would of been more fun to see.
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Can a toss tell me if it's possible to do a standard FE on this map? It looks pretty much impossible. It wasn't mentioned in the Forge FE walling guide on the strategy forum, but I don't know if that's because it's not done, or if it's because it was too old at the time of the post.
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So many of my best games were played on this map.
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Need more gaema gowon.
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United States17042 Posts
It's almost impossible for protoss to fe, but at least it has an uphill ramp. 1 base tech pvz will still be viable.
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MrHoon
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I know this is a random question, but is there a map that is almost 50:50 for all MUs?
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United States5262 Posts
RH3 had a lot of amazing games on it. I'll be very interested to see how modern Ps will deal with the previous Z>P imbalance with the new style Protoss.
I remember Ps had an immense problems of FEing vs 3 hatch (or 4 hatch) range hydras.
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United States5262 Posts
On November 21 2008 13:44 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
the old players must be loving this- they don't need to worry as much about planning new strats, as they have already practiced for the old maps(although with the old strats)
This is totally wrong. Every matchup has evolved HEAVILY since 2005/2006.
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On November 21 2008 17:35 MrHoon wrote:
I know this is a random question, but is there a map that is almost 50:50 for all MUs?
Nostalgia would be the closest I think.
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Yes, maybe they will add this map to ICCup.
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On November 21 2008 18:03 sushiman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 17:35 MrHoon wrote:
I know this is a random question, but is there a map that is almost 50:50 for all MUs? Nostalgia would be the closest I think.
yea and in PvT's defense Oov was a monster during its use. And July was also a Demon. Lots of playtime on this map too.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
RH3 will be a terran fest
T>>P so hard at the top level and of course Z>P as well.
Jeez
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This is for oov coming back as a player and Boxer in SKT yes?
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Just bring back Lost Temple!
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ok, they will slowly get the old maps back like Paranoid Android and RoV and HoV..
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Germany2762 Posts
nice, rh3 is one of my favs ever
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On November 22 2008 00:09 jhNz wrote:nice, rh3 is one of my favs ever
mine too :D
i wonder why they never used an inverted version of Requiem
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Rush hour 3 is the best map I have ever player great news indeed.Fits perfectly with medusa,chopung and destination oh boy I cant wait
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United States44190 Posts
On November 21 2008 17:56 jkillashark wrote:
RH3 had a lot of amazing games on it. I'll be very interested to see how modern Ps will deal with the previous Z>P imbalance with the new style Protoss.
I remember Ps had an immense problems of FEing vs 3 hatch (or 4 hatch) range hydras.
I think the Bisu build may be dropped in favour of older styles.
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you know what this is right. they just really really want mjy backkk XD (all the new pl maps that were brought back are maps that were used when he was dominant)
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Great, a good and balanced map. Some of the best games of earlier seasons were played on this map, so I'm glad to see it return.
Can't wait to play this on ICCUP.
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Neo Requiem STAYS
YES!!!!
RH3 rocks as well
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On November 21 2008 16:32 AltaiR_ wrote:
neo forte gogogoogo
Neo Arkanoid!
Neo Jungle Story! haha
815 can't fit units down the fucking ramp fun fun
I like Longinus 2 even though its horrible imba aganist pvz and tvz zerg get rolled on this map and i play zerg i still like the map
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Darn, I liked Raid Assault quite a bit....
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Belgium9950 Posts
On November 22 2008 01:53 NahLGaE wrote:
you know what this is right. they just really really want mjy backkk XD (all the new pl maps that were brought back are maps that were used when he was dominant)
isn't RH3 before his dominant period? Afaik RH3 was the era of Chojja and Casy
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Belgium9950 Posts
Well, to be fair, that's not really FE. It's one base sair/DT -> expansion, not forge FE in the modern sense.
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On November 21 2008 08:42 QuietIdiot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 08:38 SpiralArchitect wrote:Ah man how could you compare RH3 to Luna Rush Hour is a fucking awesome map, I have always loved it. Not comparing, Luna is considerably balanced and with this map shuffling going around for the sake of balanced competition, its possible i t might get resurrected. Rh3 is balanced with some sketchy scenarios in PvT, but its got flair and style, especially when it comes down to those TvZs. Such sick tvzs pvzs on this map.
If luna gets put back I'll quit starcraft
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On November 22 2008 05:23 -orb- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 08:42 QuietIdiot wrote:On November 21 2008 08:38 SpiralArchitect wrote:Ah man how could you compare RH3 to Luna Rush Hour is a fucking awesome map, I have always loved it. Not comparing, Luna is considerably balanced and with this map shuffling going around for the sake of balanced competition, its possible i t might get resurrected. Rh3 is balanced with some sketchy scenarios in PvT, but its got flair and style, especially when it comes down to those TvZs. Such sick tvzs pvzs on this map. If luna gets put back I'll quit starcraft
lawl imagine if they added even more expos to "balance" it for the new age ahahahah
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On November 22 2008 04:57 RaGe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2008 01:53 NahLGaE wrote:
you know what this is right. they just really really want mjy backkk XD (all the new pl maps that were brought back are maps that were used when he was dominant) isn't RH3 before his dominant period? Afaik RH3 was the era of Chojja and Casy
Nope I'm pretty sure he played it during his finals vs Nal_ra and several proleague games. Lost the most on the map, comparatively to the other maps to people like Canata in his prime.
Yeah just checking tlpd he only had like a 50-60% win rec on that, pretty low for his prime.
Lost a few with similar percentages on rh1-2 as well.
Then again, savior had this weird ability to dominate on hard maps for zvt and less more so on balanced maps.
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I remember everyone talking about how great savior's build for that map was, or was it rh2. 3 hatch mutas with early lings for backstab. He totally played rh during his dominance period
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A version of RH was played in that July vs Hwasin game, was it 3?
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Did you know that certain snake-ish map is coming next? I am confused like a cat!
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We all know whats needed..
Blood Bath, Dire Straits, Lost Temple and Continental Divide. True men don't know other maps  .
Nah, I like Mapchanges, some fresh (or old-fresh) air never hurts.
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On November 22 2008 04:57 RaGe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2008 01:53 NahLGaE wrote:
you know what this is right. they just really really want mjy backkk XD (all the new pl maps that were brought back are maps that were used when he was dominant) isn't RH3 before his dominant period? Afaik RH3 was the era of Chojja and Casy
it was definitely the beginning of his prime.. During his first starleague win ever(savior vs reach finals), they had Rush Hour as a map, then in the next starleague where he finished 2nd to chojja they had rush hour 2.. and finally in his next star league win, they had rush hour 3.. so he's very familiar with rush hour.. prolly moreso than any other map.
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thedeadhaji
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On November 22 2008 04:58 RaGe wrote:Well, to be fair, that's not really FE. It's one base sair/DT -> expansion, not forge FE in the modern sense.
Uzoo msl baby!
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BoxeR will make a comeback.. with OOv.. when they continue to bring back old maps, haha :D!
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