• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:07
CEST 05:07
KST 12:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play2Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon85.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes16Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch2[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)98
StarCraft 2
General
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool ProGamer Paychecks Story BW General Discussion Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? Data needed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
[94721]Better Good-Health Signs Than 3-15 Bans/Yea TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4334 users

Lets Trade Timing Secrets! - Page 3

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
September 06 2008 11:36 GMT
#41
For a perfect +1 speed-zeal-rush you should start building core simultanously with +1 upgrade research.

Lurker research does take the same time as building spire or templar archives.
If you have started lair earlier than protoss has his cybercore, your mutas will spawn before archon is morphed.

If you start morphing lair soon after toss started his +1, your lurkers/mutas should come in time to save you from +1 speed-zeal-rush.
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4523 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 11:39:25
September 06 2008 11:38 GMT
#42
instant win timing tvz:

1 rax cc
add 2nd rax
gas
academy
ebay
3rd rax
after upgrading 1 weapon, stim, and marine range get fact with first 100 gas that comes available.
keep producing from 3 rax while making tanks.. and a vessel.

move out with 3 groups of marines, a group of medics, 3 tanks, a vessel, and win the game.
constant scv production during all of this is crucial as well as making the fact with first 100 gas before you make any turrets.

gg!
Team Liquid
.kaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
1963 Posts
September 06 2008 11:49 GMT
#43
On September 06 2008 18:57 DhakhaR wrote:
does anyone know the correct CC/nex/hatch HP to transfer workers? obviously it changes from map to map, but appromimatly?

i just guess most of the time and it seems to work, but it would be nice to know.


1250 is the almost perfect time for CC's. They will all get to the minerals as the CC finishes, maybe a little earlier if you want them to be done mining and returning as cc finishes like 1225 etc. (Python~)
Pressure - "rock is the defender of justice" 이병민 / 박영민 Hwaiting~
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 13:30:15
September 06 2008 13:26 GMT
#44
On September 06 2008 20:38 ret wrote:
instant win timing tvz:

1 rax cc
add 2nd rax
gas
academy
ebay
3rd rax
after upgrading 1 weapon, stim, and marine range get fact with first 100 gas that comes available.
keep producing from 3 rax while making tanks.. and a vessel.

move out with 3 groups of marines, a group of medics, 3 tanks, a vessel, and win the game.
constant scv production during all of this is crucial as well as making the fact with first 100 gas before you make any turrets.

gg!

Thats pretty much what sea does always right? 9 minute hanbang

1 rax cc gas ebay(+1 weap) acad 2nd 3rd rax fact another one
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
September 06 2008 13:48 GMT
#45
On September 06 2008 22:26 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2008 20:38 ret wrote:
instant win timing tvz:

1 rax cc
add 2nd rax
gas
academy
ebay
3rd rax
after upgrading 1 weapon, stim, and marine range get fact with first 100 gas that comes available.
keep producing from 3 rax while making tanks.. and a vessel.

move out with 3 groups of marines, a group of medics, 3 tanks, a vessel, and win the game.
constant scv production during all of this is crucial as well as making the fact with first 100 gas before you make any turrets.

gg!

Thats pretty much what sea does always right? 9 minute hanbang

1 rax cc gas ebay(+1 weap) acad 2nd 3rd rax fact another one


Afaik, think this is the standard Terran timing push in TvZ. It consists of 2 groups of marines, about 6 Medics, 1-2 Tanks and a Vessel. Rolls out between 9:30-10:30 and aims to take down the Zerg's third base.
Adams Æbler
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#88
PiGStarcraft724
CranKy Ducklings99
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft754
ViBE210
oGsTOP 208
RuFF_SC2 160
Nina 57
ROOTCatZ 25
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3402
Rain 3137
Shuttle 610
sSak 74
Noble 38
Dewaltoss 23
Bale 18
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1298
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox526
Other Games
summit1g9664
C9.Mang0790
JimRising 624
Sick172
Maynarde89
UpATreeSC49
minikerr8
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1003
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream256
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 74
• mYiSmile19
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1333
• Lourlo745
• Stunt284
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
7h 53m
Replay Cast
20h 53m
CrankTV Team League
1d 7h
Bombastic Starleague
1d 16h
The PondCast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.