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United States33479 Posts
Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=75832&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
Some nice pictures of oov in a business suit are in the original link.
-You’ve been picked for the 26th live interview…
There aren’t any issues surrounding me, so thanks for choosing to interview me anyway. I hope everybody enjoys it.
-So what are you doing lately?
These days, I haven’t really been given specific things to do. It’s more of a preparation period, so sometimes I don’t have anything to do, and sometimes work piles up unexpectedly. It’s hard to predict how much work there will be, and it’s my first time even doing this kind of work, so I’m adjusting right now.
-What’s the most different thing from when you were a player?
I don’t get to play games. When I thought about being a coach, I thought I would be making build-orders myself, and teaching them to other players. I figured I would still be a trend-setter, just that I wouldn’t be on TV anymore. In reality, I’m too busy to play games now that I’ve become a coach. Acting-Manager Park Yong Un(SKT has yet to hire a permanent manager) has told me to try to train a Terran Starleague winner. I want to succeed at that goal, so Terran will be a big part of the team again.
-If it’s different from what you first expected, you must have some second thoughts.
It’s unfortunate that I can’t play as much, so I guess I’ll have to make the time for myself. I’m not a progamer, so I can’t just grab ahold of some of our main players and ask for a game, and I’m doing different work than previous coaches anyway. However, I think it’s okay to get some games with the team’s trainees (aspiring pro-gamers). I believe one day I can think of a new concept and lead a trend in BW. I’ve barely been able to play for one or two months now. But I played a few games on PGTour recently, and it wasn’t that bad. I think if I play 20~30 games, I’ll get my gaming instinct back.
-A lot of fans were shocked by your sudden decision to become a coach.
There were a lot of reasons behind it. Part of me wanted to rest a little. I had been considering retiring since early 2007, and Nada and Savior knew this. So I often said that I wanted to flare up one last time before I retired. It’s been 2 or 3 years since my wrist started to hurt as well. I got shots whenever my wrist hurt so I was able to keep playing, but at some point, I lost my drive. I have some other personal reasons, but I think it would be better not to mention those… Anyway, I gave up on trying going out with a bang. After that, gaming simply became uninteresting, and I was unmotivated. I was thinking about leaving e-sports entirely, but the company’s offer to coach came in around then.
-Is it just because gaming wasn’t fun anymore? Was there any pivotal reason for your retirement?
I joined when Boxer was still on the team, and the team has declined so much since then. It’s obvious what he’s going to think of us once he gets out of the military. Maybe he doesn’t remember, but I remember getting scolded by him on battle.net. I wanted to make a team that Boxer wouldn’t be ashamed of. So when I signed my contract, I didn’t even look at the money. I just left that to the team. There’s about a year and a half left, and I want to enter the army as someone I can be proud of. Some people ask, why are you lowering your value so willingly, but I think I’ve already earned a lot of money, and gained a lot of things. I’ve done so little for the team, compared to how much the team has done for me. It was time for me to repay them. That lead me to become a coach.
-Did your poor performance in 2006 make you decide to retire?
I didn’t retire because of my performance. I’ve never cared much about performance.
I never won a league because I was striving to win it. When leagues are announced, I don’t think “it would be nice if I won,” I think “It must be nice for whoever whoever wins.” I just say that I try, because televised interviews won’t stop until you do. In the tournament I entered trying to win, I was knocked out in the round of 16(laughs). It might seem selfish, but I’ve never been stressed out because of performance, or used poor performance as motivation to do better.
-How did you become a progamer?
I actually became a pro so I could quit Starcraft. When I first started playing, I couldn’t do anything else. If I went off to study, I’d find myself at a PCbang playing games. Daily life in itself was that difficult. So I thought maybe if I actually went on TV and played, things would get better. And now, I finally quit (laughs). Right now, I don’t have any particular withdrawal symptoms when I don’t play.
-What was your happiest moment as a progamer?
Interesting, whenever I was winning a final, I would think ‘How much money have I earned up to now?’ and set specific plans to buy a house. When I was young, my family never owned a home. My father had some really peculiar thinking about homes. He didn’t think they were particularly important, and I really hated that. When my family started to face financial difficulties, my mother wanted to take me and live together somewhere else. Even now, I take the subway everywhere and try to save money. Recently, my mom acquired a home through Jeonsae (a form of real estate rental, where one puts down a very large deposit which is returned at a later date). I think that was when I was the happiest. Whenever I earned money, I’d give almost all of it to my parents. I went to my hometown one day, and saw that we had a different house. I felt so much happier than when I had won a tournament.
-Conversely, when did you feel the most regretful?
That would be now. I haven’t beaten Savior in an official game yet, and I haven’t filled 100 matches vs Nada yet. I’m still regretting those now.
-You were the one who started doing edgy interviews mocking your opponents, what made you do so?
I always used interviews strategically. That’s why I would mock my opponents, or pretend to be strong. I thought all of that was momentum, and I would even ask my fans to post things on message boards like “ILoveoov is really good” etc. When I played JulyZerg in the Starleague final, I thought mentality was particularly important. Honestly, I was scared and nervous. After I admitted he was a strong opponent and said honestly what I felt, I was able to go into the game with confidence and get a good result.
-When do you think your prime was?
I think it was during the IBM Team League. I felt like I was the strongest when I 4-0’d the GO team. Over a longer period of time, I’d say it was when I won the MSL 3 times in a row. The OSL victory after winning 3 MSLs was very difficult. My momentum had slowed down, and games weren’t going as well as before.
-What do you think of your relationship with Nada?
I was in a small, elite guild with Nada a long time ago. The Game-I ranking system added the total scores of all guild members, but our guild only had 19 members. The only Terrans were me and Nada. Nada then went on iTV and beat chrh, and became a progamer. At that time, I knew Nada, but he didn’t know me that well. After I joined Dongyang (precursor to SKT1), I played in the Four Kings special event tournament, which is where I first met him.
- There’s a rumor that you changed from Random to Terran in order to beat Nada.
That isn’t true. While I was playing games with Yellow, I asked him “What race should I play?” He replied “Play Terran.” A long time ago, Yellow accused me of map-hacking. After I joined Dongyang I played many games with him, and asked what my weakest points were, which is when he told me to play Terran. (if this paragraph makes no sense, it’s because it doesn’t in Korean either).
- So you couldn’t reach 100 games vs Nada.
It’s fun to play against Nada. It would probably be fun even now. Maybe it’s because I won, but I can feel mind games from the very start of the game. When I play vs Boxer, I get nervous. He always scouts fast, so I feel like I’m starting with a disadvantage somehow. Maybe Nada feels the same way about me.
-You say you have regrets about Savior.
I didn’t beat him even once. He was coming up fast, and I was slumping when we played. I wish we had played when we were both playing well. I really regret it.
-Are you close with Nada and Savior personally?
I’m not that close with Nada on a personal basis, we don’t go out to drink or anything. Actually, I don’t do that with any progamers. Sometimes I take amateurs out to drink or eat to thank them for practicing, but otherwise I don’t invite people out to meet privately. Kingdom and I are very different in that respect. I don’t even have that many numbers stored on my cellphone. Since a long time ago, I haven’t prepared for finals by practicing with other progamers. On a side note, some of the amateurs that practiced with me have joined the team. Word goes around that by being my practice partner, you can join the team.
- Any particular reasons you practiced with Amateurs?
The way I play is to create a pattern where I have an advantage, and then crush my opponents with momentum. That way my opponent can’t play with 100% of his skill. That’s why I think mind-games are more important than skill. Anyway, it became harder and harder to practice with Amateurs. All the other pro-teams swept them up, so it became difficult to find amateur gamers to practice with.
- What do you think of the discussion surrounding “Bonjwa?”
The standard for being ‘good’ changes all the time. I think Bonjwa is simply being recognized by people. Bonjwa is someone who everyone is forced to recognize, all the people in the industry, the fans, and even his detractors. It would be silly to declare myself a Bonjwa, but I think it’s correct that Boxer, Nada, and Savior were Bonjwas. A player recognized by all the fans can become a Bonjwa.
-Who do you think is the Terran to succeed ILoveoov?
I don’t know. I thought Canata could do it, but he is not aggressive enough. He needs to get over that. When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape. If you do that, you’ll at least get a win. If you decide to go to Seoul, at least you’ll get as far as Kyeon-gi province (the province Seoul is located in).
-You say you want to make a Terran winner within 18 months, which players are showing potential?
I told all the terrans on the team that I want to train a winner, and make terran an important part of the team again. If there are no prospects, then I’ll have to find some new ones. Right now, Fantasy has the most potential. His strength is that he absorbs things very quickly, but his weakness is that he is too introverted. But we can change that.
-How is chemistry with Kingdom?
We took an MBTI test (some psychology/personality test), and we came out as complete opposites. It’s true in real life. Anything I say, his opinion is different from mine. However, we don’t fight, and reach compromises fairly well. Though our personalities differ, I think we work well together.
-What are your future goals?
When I didn’t try to win, I started to play better, and I ended up winning. That’s my style. I hope that works for the team as well. Just play, get stronger, and then maybe we’ll have a terran winner.
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China3334 Posts
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
He looks even scarier that that SKT coach with the shades. :O
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Very nice, but what does Oov mean by "playing on PGTour" ?
Does he mean ICC or is this some Korean thing?
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On March 25 2008 00:18 KizZBG wrote:
He looks even scarier that that SKT coach with the shades. :O ................. :[
thanks a ton for the translation, interview really rocks
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Thank you for the amazing translation. That was a very good interview, oov mentioned some interesting points there.
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awesome read! i still regret not following the pro-scene until after oov's reign. i know i missed out ;_;
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wowowwo
great interview, been waiting for an interview with oov
thanks!
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On March 25 2008 00:22 Puosu wrote:
Very nice, but what does Oov mean by "playing on PGTour" ?
Does he mean ICC or is this some Korean thing?
I think he used it synonymously with ladder.
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China3334 Posts
Reading through again, awesome interview! Wax, I wish your spring break could be longer =]
I really like the part he mentioned about taking out amateurs to eat and drink, good man!
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didn’t retire because of my performance. I’ve never cared much about performance.
I never won a league because I was striving to win it. When leagues are announced, I don’t think “it would be nice if I won,” I think “It must be nice for whoever whoever wins.” I just say that I try, because televised interviews won’t stop until you do. In the tournament I entered trying to win, I was knocked out in the round of 16(laughs). It might seem selfish, but I’ve never been stressed out because of performance, or used poor performance as motivation to do better.
Holyy Shit.. This says it all people.. oov didnt even try and he won so many leagues. he's a natural. OOV IS GOD! No wonder Boxer gave him shit on b.net, because Boxer know oov is not trying and know oov's abilities.
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I was working on this translation until... I saw that you translated it already (lol).
1 hour of work down the DRAIN!
Good work though :D
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btw
oov looks professional as hell
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United States20661 Posts
Thanks for the translations.
iloveoov looks good in a suit.
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kinda sad he retired but cool too see he is a coach!
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Good interview. I really like oov.
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the new terran champion better be fucking midas
i love love how highly he speaks of boxer <3
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Awesome interview, thanks. <3 oov 4 ever!
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-Did your poor performance in 2006 make you decide to retire?
I didn’t retire because of my performance. I’ve never cared much about performance.
I never won a league because I was striving to win it. When leagues are announced, I don’t think “it would be nice if I won,” I think “It must be nice for whoever whoever wins.” I just say that I try, because televised interviews won’t stop until you do. In the tournament I entered trying to win, I was knocked out in the round of 16(laughs). It might seem selfish, but I’ve never been stressed out because of performance, or used poor performance as motivation to do better.
-You were the one who started doing edgy interviews mocking your opponents, what made you do so?
I always used interviews strategically. That’s why I would mock my opponents, or pretend to be strong. I thought all of that was momentum, and I would even ask my fans to post things on message boards like “ILoveoov is really good” etc. When I played JulyZerg in the Starleague final, I thought mentality was particularly important. Honestly, I was scared and nervous. After I admitted he was a strong opponent and said honestly what I felt, I was able to go into the game with confidence and get a good result.
- What do you think of the discussion surrounding “Bonjwa?”
The standard for being ‘good’ changes all the time. I think Bonjwa is simply being recognized by people. Bonjwa is someone who everyone is forced to recognize, all the people in the industry, the fans, and even his detractors. It would be silly to declare myself a Bonjwa, but I think it’s correct that Boxer, Nada, and Savior were Bonjwas. A player recognized by all the fans can become a Bonjwa.
I feel like these three answers give a much different vibe than Plexa's FE article gives. Anyone else get that feeling?
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<3 oov
lol @ being complete opposite to Kingdom.
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Amazing interview. Thanks a ton wax.
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iloveoov
thanks for interview
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guy looks like a real coach! didn't expect that 
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On March 25 2008 01:07 NonY[rC] wrote:Show nested quote +-Did your poor performance in 2006 make you decide to retire?
I didn’t retire because of my performance. I’ve never cared much about performance.
I never won a league because I was striving to win it. When leagues are announced, I don’t think “it would be nice if I won,” I think “It must be nice for whoever whoever wins.” I just say that I try, because televised interviews won’t stop until you do. In the tournament I entered trying to win, I was knocked out in the round of 16(laughs). It might seem selfish, but I’ve never been stressed out because of performance, or used poor performance as motivation to do better.
-You were the one who started doing edgy interviews mocking your opponents, what made you do so?
I always used interviews strategically. That’s why I would mock my opponents, or pretend to be strong. I thought all of that was momentum, and I would even ask my fans to post things on message boards like “ILoveoov is really good” etc. When I played JulyZerg in the Starleague final, I thought mentality was particularly important. Honestly, I was scared and nervous. After I admitted he was a strong opponent and said honestly what I felt, I was able to go into the game with confidence and get a good result.
- What do you think of the discussion surrounding “Bonjwa?”
The standard for being ‘good’ changes all the time. I think Bonjwa is simply being recognized by people. Bonjwa is someone who everyone is forced to recognize, all the people in the industry, the fans, and even his detractors. It would be silly to declare myself a Bonjwa, but I think it’s correct that Boxer, Nada, and Savior were Bonjwas. A player recognized by all the fans can become a Bonjwa. I feel like these three answers give a much different vibe than Plexa's FE article gives. Anyone else get that feeling?
Completely and totally. I honestly believe Plexa's article more than I believe Oov here. The winners mentality is more evident in his talking about mind games and raping the opponent. I think "not caring about performance" is more about the zen mentality of playing in his zone, not worrying about how the game turns out, just playing as hard as he can.
Winning had to have been important though, considering the success he's enjoyed.
I love the quote about giving back to the time. That's all warm and fuzzy
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Great interview. I read it in korean to practice my reading anyway but thanks for the translation, helped to have a reference on some harder words.
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The answer to -Did your poor performance in 2006 make you decide to retire? is probably a lie or staged. Totally untypical for a progamer. Every progamer cares about winning, winning is the only important thing and gives a major motivation boost (while losing does the exact opposite).
He probably said that to shed a better light on coaches in general, in order to not have people think that coaching would be just some kind of "catch basin" for fallen or unskilled progamers. Which it probably is.
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Best read all month. Thanks Wax and snowbird (for trying).
It's really refreshing to read a (ex)progamer interview so honest and thoughtful.
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United States33479 Posts
I think when he says he doesn't care about winning, he means it in the sense that he doesn't care so much about the structured professional system. Being a pro, winning some tournament set up by other people, it's less important than what's at the heart of it, simple competition between two people. He likes to play SC and win games, and beyond that he doesn't need to set any goals for himself.
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United States33479 Posts
oh, ILoveoov is really good!
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This is such a great interview! <3 Oov 4ever.
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oov's mindset is THE mindset to have. You cant be successful otherwise.
I love every single answer he gave there.
PS. he'd make a great poker player imo.
The talk about not caring about the outcome, emphasising aggresion, he knows.
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Woah thanks for translating that!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I joined when Boxer was still on the team, and the team has declined so much since then. It’s obvious what he’s going to think of us once he gets out of the military. Maybe he doesn’t remember, but I remember getting scolded by him on battle.net. I wanted to make a team that Boxer wouldn’t be ashamed of.
That's a very interesting answer and it shows how important Boxer was/is for the team and oov. Boxer might look at it totaly different, but oov feels the need to make SKT1 to something Boxer would be proud of. One can only imagine how strong the bond between these two is.
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Netherlands1231 Posts
Hahahaha, great interview and some sigworthy or at least quotable lines
When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape. If you do that, you’ll at least get a win.
Oov <3 Adding to SKT's history of being the most hardcore.
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Much appreciated translation
Thanks
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United States7166 Posts
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Very nice interview, thanks for posting and translating!
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On March 25 2008 01:44 0xDEADBEEF wrote:The answer to is probably a lie or staged. Totally untypical for a progamer. Every progamer cares about winning, winning is the only important thing and gives a major motivation boost (while losing does the exact opposite). He probably said that to shed a better light on coaches in general, in order to not have people think that coaching would be just some kind of "catch basin" for fallen or unskilled progamers. Which it probably is.
I think you are wrong, I play alot more when I lose. Winning is fun, but beating players you lost too is even better... I get really bored if I win a few games in a row, but when I lose I can keep playing for hours and hours.
I think this is how the progamers feel aswell. Winning is good, but losing is even better because it gives you motivation to get better.
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I don't think losing is "even better" when you're actually paid to win and in order to continue your career you need to keep on winning.
I can agree with ZpuX if it's during "practice". Like when you just practice vs a couple of friends or on ICCup. But if it's in a major tournament or league, I don't think losing motivates you more than winning.
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On March 25 2008 03:23 meRz wrote:
I don't think losing is "even better" when you're actually paid to win and in order to continue your career you need to keep on winning.
I can agree with ZpuX if it's during "practice". Like when you just practice vs a couple of friends or on ICCup. But if it's in a major tournament or league, I don't think losing motivates you more than winning.
for me losing definitely motivates me more than winning, if I were to win all the time I would hate this game, losing gives me a reason to continue to play I think.
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Omg I am so excited by iloveoov's answers... I cant even describe it. His attitude rocks! He says it straight up and isn't afraid of what people might think!
Canata? "Nah, he a puss&@!^! he needs to be boxer like aggressive!"
Any other Terran? "If they don't show skill we'll discard them and I'll find another one on Iccup/B.net! just like Boxer did with me!"
SKT? "Nah skt sux without boxer "
Boxeroovforever
He doesn't want no generic terran.. he wants rape and that is all he wants his terrans to do
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On March 25 2008 03:37 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2008 03:23 meRz wrote:
I don't think losing is "even better" when you're actually paid to win and in order to continue your career you need to keep on winning.
I can agree with ZpuX if it's during "practice". Like when you just practice vs a couple of friends or on ICCup. But if it's in a major tournament or league, I don't think losing motivates you more than winning. for me losing definitely motivates me more than winning, if I were to win all the time I would hate this game, losing gives me a reason to continue to play I think.
Man I wish I could have this mentality because I think that's what keeps me from getting better...
I like winning! I hate losing and when I lose I feel like quitting! I am quitter 
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On March 25 2008 00:12 Waxangel wrote:
-You say you have regrets about Savior.
I didn’t beat him even once. He was coming up fast, and I was slumping when we played. I wish we had played when we were both playing well. I really regret it.
Lol. Oov at his prime would still get crushed by Savior. Oov would turtle while opponents would throw units into oov defense hoping to finish him off before his macro kicks in. Savior style automatically counters oov's.
Savior > Monkey Terran
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On March 25 2008 00:12 Waxangel wrote:
-How did you become a progamer?
I actually became a pro so I could quit Starcraft. When I first started playing, I couldn’t do anything else. If I went off to study, I’d find myself at a PCbang playing games. Daily life in itself was that difficult. So I thought maybe if I actually went on TV and played, things would get better. And now, I finally quit (laughs). Right now, I don’t have any particular withdrawal symptoms when I don’t play.
That does not make sense but good interview
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Wow what a great interview.
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Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
I can't help but smile everytime I see oov's face, he's such a goof...
this was an AWESOME interview btw, thanks for sharing! 
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Wow incredible interview, really the best I've read in so long. Thanks Wax and oov. It's so great to hear one of my favorite progamers talk about my other favorite progamers.
Oov is totally badass and I think SKT next year might be something great.
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On March 25 2008 04:22 [X]Ken_D wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2008 00:12 Waxangel wrote:
-You say you have regrets about Savior.
I didn’t beat him even once. He was coming up fast, and I was slumping when we played. I wish we had played when we were both playing well. I really regret it.
Lol. Oov at his prime would still get crushed by Savior. Oov would turtle while opponents would throw units into oov defense hoping to finish him off before his macro kicks in. Savior style automatically counters oov's. Savior > Monkey Terran
Oov didn't come across to me as much of a turtler. His aggressive style combined with the fact that he cut corners early game for units so he could expand more made it seem like he was playing Terran almost like Zerg, rather than like Terran. At any opportunity, he would expand, so he could get the economic boost of units. That's why him vs. July was so interesting - they were both so aggressive and both sacrificed defense, so the games were fast-paced and interesting to watch.
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Oov beat sAviOr on TV once, it was during that race war thing by Shinhan I think, where they were testing out maps to use for the first Shinhan Proleague. Oov destroyed sAviOr on Geometry.
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bumping this because it's a good interview and oov is a good guy
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On March 25 2008 04:22 [X]Ken_D wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2008 00:12 Waxangel wrote:
-You say you have regrets about Savior.
I didn’t beat him even once. He was coming up fast, and I was slumping when we played. I wish we had played when we were both playing well. I really regret it.
Lol. Oov at his prime would still get crushed by Savior. Oov would turtle while opponents would throw units into oov defense hoping to finish him off before his macro kicks in. Savior style automatically counters oov's.
That wasn't oov's style at all...
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God i love oov and i agree with him fantasy has a lot of potential. The reps i've seen of him really good.
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<3
Bring back terran dominance to SKT!
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On March 25 2008 05:47 PanoRaMa wrote:
Oov beat sAviOr on TV once, it was during that race war thing by Shinhan I think, where they were testing out maps to use for the first Shinhan Proleague. Oov destroyed sAviOr on Geometry.
An unofficial game on one of the shittiest maps ever doesn't count
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On March 25 2008 14:05 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2008 05:47 PanoRaMa wrote:
Oov beat sAviOr on TV once, it was during that race war thing by Shinhan I think, where they were testing out maps to use for the first Shinhan Proleague. Oov destroyed sAviOr on Geometry. An unofficial game on one of the shittiest maps ever doesn't count
iloveoov also won two more in some Chinese league, one on LT and one on Luna.
I think iloveoov remembers his own record pretty well  so I'd trust him.
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oov will make Seri[ScM] a starleague winner within 18 months - you heard it here first
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wowow i really enjoyed this interview
thanks ^^
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I love his defenition of Bonjwa :D
Iloveoov looks nice with a suit :D
Im betting that in 18 month we are gonna see a new Terran Dominance :D
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one of the best and most honest progamer interviews ever.
thanks for the translation.
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Great interview. Thanks for the translation just wondering.. how did he end up choosing terran because yellow thought he was best at it?
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Very nice interview, I love how much he values the mental aspects of competition. That's why he was one of the most dominant players of all time. Hope more players can learn from his thought process, how he prepares for matches, and most importantly his winning mentality. I think he will make a great coach. By.Fantasy was one of my favorite amateur terrans, he has very nice style.
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that was a great open interview.
I respect the guy so much, seems really down to earth.
Hope he really stirs some stuff up and keeps getting recognition.
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That was seriously the best interview I have read, about any topic. Whoever translated this did an amazing job. Assuming it's accurate Which I have no reason to believe it isn't and will probably never know otherwiseP
Thanks Waxangel
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what a pity that OOV retired...
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When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape.
LOL!
This is the kind of interview I like. Very personal and in depth. Thank you very much Snorlax
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Wow, this interview is so much more heartfelt and honest-sounding than almost any other interview in professional SC I've ever read... Mad props to Oov on giving us a candid view of his life
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awesome interview, thanks for the translation
oov is sure hawt in a suit but i can almost feel how he misses playing a bit
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esp. liked the whole boxer comments
wonder what boxer is saying to oov now...hopefully he's still itching to play sc when he gets back, then he can drag his bud back into the game
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Nice int much respect for him 8) he does look good in a suit.
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Bumped this for new people to see in light of latest iloveoov interview. I find it really interesting to read previous interviews of progamers. 
Amazing that Coach Park way back then told iloveoov to train a Terran Starleague contender and he succeeded in that like a boss
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Ah wtf. Some weird deja vu.
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lol that part where he says he doesn't care about winning is obviously a lie. I mean, look at his ID!
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