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Jjb
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June 05 2024 18:15 GMT
#41
OK, this is the most ridiculous conversation I’ve heard. It does not matter the situation if you have the availability of fiber optic cable as opposed to Starlink, The fiber optic cable will wipe the floor with Starlink. Whether it’s latency, download, or upload speed, fiber optic cable is by far the best. The same goes for regular cable although the difference is not as overwhelming as fiber optic. Starlink advantage is connection ability almost anywhere. This is because SpaceX is covering the lower orbit with literally thousands (like 12,000 eventually) of satellites. That’s the accessibility advantage over past satellite services like Hughes Net that flys only a couple. Starlink will have much better latency and speed than those other satellite companies simply because Starlink satellites are at a much lower orbit, closer to earth using microwave signal to communicate. Consider fiber optic moves data at close to the speed of light, and that’s about all you need to know. So, it doesn’t at all “depend”.
Branch.AUT
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Last Edited: 2024-06-05 19:55:12
June 05 2024 19:49 GMT
#42
On June 06 2024 03:15 Jjb wrote:
OK, this is the most ridiculous conversation I’ve heard. It does not matter the situation if you have the availability of fiber optic cable as opposed to Starlink, The fiber optic cable will wipe the floor with Starlink. Whether it’s latency, download, or upload speed, fiber optic cable is by far the best. The same goes for regular cable although the difference is not as overwhelming as fiber optic. Starlink advantage is connection ability almost anywhere. This is because SpaceX is covering the lower orbit with literally thousands (like 12,000 eventually) of satellites. That’s the accessibility advantage over past satellite services like Hughes Net that flys only a couple. Starlink will have much better latency and speed than those other satellite companies simply because Starlink satellites are at a much lower orbit, closer to earth using microwave signal to communicate. Consider fiber optic moves data at close to the speed of light, and that’s about all you need to know. So, it doesn’t at all “depend”.

Tell me again what is the speed of microwaves in air/vacuum?

The limiting factor in all multi network internet connection is always going to be switch throughput. That is entirely independent of physical transmission medium. Because outside the switch the information travels at the speed of light anyway.

"It depends" is the correct answer, because what causes the latency is the routing, the number of networks/routers involved, and the bandwitdth that router needs to handle. If one router delays your packet by 100ms, everything else is immediately irrelevant. Doesn't matter if the packet arrived via eleczromagnetic wave in fiber optics or electromagnetic wave in air/vacuum.
rtyrt7
Profile Joined August 2018
48 Posts
June 06 2024 05:41 GMT
#43
On April 24 2024 09:58 tec27 wrote:
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On April 24 2024 01:14 iopq wrote:
On April 15 2024 18:48 tankgirl wrote:
2 .play over ethernet not wifi



let me ping my router


--- 192.168.2.1 ping statistics ---
628 packets transmitted, 628 received, 0% packet loss, time 631884ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.570/1.400/15.957/1.193 ms


I only got one big spike of 15ms and most of the time it's within 3ms, I don't know that 15ms will make a difference

I usually get TR24 low vs. Koreans and I still don't know if these tiny spikes are noticeable

Ping is not really a realistic test of this as BW will be sending packets much more quickly (and also larger packets). Wifi is worse because of potential interference (which can happen from many things in your home like microwaves, vacuum cleaners, etc. as well as other people in your area using wifi). Many of these things are intermittent, not something that you would necessarily see in an isolated test, and may get worse at certain times of day. To make matters worse, when interference causes a packet drop on bnet, it will take at least a roundtrip between you and your opponent before any re-sent packet can be dealt with (this is something ShieldBattery improves upon).

You might think everyone telling you to play on ethernet is stupid and it's all fine, but please, for the sake of everyone, just believe that we are correct and play on ethernet unless you absolutely cannot.

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On April 19 2024 23:21 WGT-Baal wrote:
On April 18 2024 06:51 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On April 18 2024 00:20 iFU.pauline wrote:
I highly doubt a non wired connection outperform internet fiber in term of latency, then it also depends on the paths and nodes you are traversing to reach your destination but regardless, non wired connection is heavily prone to interference, and you can forget about constant rate in term of bandwidth. Also, satellites are orbiting, therefore paths are constantly changing depending of plenty of constraints such as nodes saturation, network load balance etc... so latency may fluctuate a lot which is the worst imo when you're playing. Starlink was not made for low latency gaming so I would avoid such solution unless you have no choice

in the present day there's no options to really improve inter-continental connectivity.

in regards to moving replays, it works. I have 25GB+ of replays and I store them elsewhere otherwise my starcraft instantly crashes when joining a lobby for which I don't have the map or the replay.


possibly a stupid question but what exactly do you mean my moving? do you archive them and remove them entirely from SC (and thus you cant open them at all from the game) or do you just take them out of the main /maps folder (and if so, where and how are you able to link them to the game so you can watch them)

Just to note, ShieldBattery can be set as a program to open replay files in Explorer, and you can also configure it to immediately launch the game with the replay (by default it will show some info about the replay in SB and give you the option of viewing it).


Thanks! Knowing that you're the creator of ShieldBattery, which I thank you for, I'm gonna reference your post, as I grew tired of explaining why ethernet is better than wifi.
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