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Classic bisu vs flash proleague finals match

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okso
Profile Joined August 2023
Korea (South)101 Posts
February 17 2024 19:11 GMT
#1


One of my all time favorite games. So much excitement at the end.
Upscaled to HD with AI software
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8442 Posts
February 17 2024 21:51 GMT
#2
Watching it right now! Thank you okso !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
FriedrichNietzsche
Profile Joined January 2024
92 Posts
February 18 2024 00:25 GMT
#3
an all time classic
okso
Profile Joined August 2023
Korea (South)101 Posts
February 18 2024 07:06 GMT
#4
On February 18 2024 06:51 prosatan wrote:
Watching it right now! Thank you okso !!



A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden531 Posts
February 18 2024 10:34 GMT
#5
Wow, i hadn't seen this game before.

Thanks for this video <3
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19290 Posts
February 18 2024 11:48 GMT
#6
Beautiful game! I still get nervous watching it. What an awesome ending to the Kespa era.

Thanks for the video!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-18 14:11:44
February 18 2024 13:53 GMT
#7
I was crushed after this, so sad for Flash, even more so than his last OSL exits.

I remember watching the matches leading up to the final, Flash was so dominant at that time. His 15-2 record (shown at 0.36) speaks for itself + Show Spoiler +
I think that's his PL stats that season. According to TLPD he was 17-3 before his two losses in the final, with a best win streak of 14...
Dunno why the stats differ. Insane win% either way
. An absolute unit carrying his team. You'd always expect him to win when he was fielded, iirc he did some weird timings and builds noone really understood how they could work.

And the thing is: Flash had already lost his first game in this particular match against his arch-nemesis at the time, Fantasy (who'd 3-0 him in his last OSL appearance three months later). So I'm sure he was even more eager to make up for that.
And then to go out in such a nail-biter micro-fest after seemingly having the upper hand.

He was covering his eyes the whole time after having been dragged out on stage in the end to take a bow with his team. Heartbreaking...
okso
Profile Joined August 2023
Korea (South)101 Posts
February 18 2024 14:48 GMT
#8
On February 18 2024 22:53 Highgamer wrote:
I was crushed after this, so sad for Flash, even more so than his last OSL exits.

I remember watching the matches leading up to the final, Flash was so dominant at that time. His 15-2 record (shown at 0.36) speaks for itself + Show Spoiler +
I think that's his PL stats that season. According to TLPD he was 17-3 before his two losses in the final, with a best win streak of 14...
Dunno why the stats differ. Insane win% either way
. An absolute unit carrying his team. You'd always expect him to win when he was fielded, iirc he did some weird timings and builds noone really understood how they could work.

And the thing is: Flash had already lost his first game in this particular match against his arch-nemesis at the time, Fantasy (who'd 3-0 him in his last OSL appearance three months later). So I'm sure he was even more eager to make up for that.
And then to go out in such a nail-biter micro-fest after seemingly having the upper hand.

He was covering his eyes the whole time after having been dragged out on stage in the end to take a bow with his team. Heartbreaking...



The thing about his stats being different between the 2 sources. The answer to that question is they are both right lol.
What I mean by this is that yes the official stat from the video is right because it is his regular season stat with a 15-2 record. KT Rolster's regular season ended at March 10th and after that is playoff.
So Liquipedia is of course right in a sense that it recorded all the games FlaSh played during the season including the playoffs
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6772 Posts
February 18 2024 15:40 GMT
#9
Such an amazing ending to the kespa era. Damn. Thanks for the video!
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4220 Posts
February 18 2024 17:25 GMT
#10
Best Proleague grand final, hands down. Probably one of the best Starcraft finals ever, overall. Definitely in my top 3.

A true blast from the past <3
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1439 Posts
February 18 2024 20:03 GMT
#11
On February 18 2024 23:48 okso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2024 22:53 Highgamer wrote:
I was crushed after this, so sad for Flash, even more so than his last OSL exits.

I remember watching the matches leading up to the final, Flash was so dominant at that time. His 15-2 record (shown at 0.36) speaks for itself + Show Spoiler +
I think that's his PL stats that season. According to TLPD he was 17-3 before his two losses in the final, with a best win streak of 14...
Dunno why the stats differ. Insane win% either way
. An absolute unit carrying his team. You'd always expect him to win when he was fielded, iirc he did some weird timings and builds noone really understood how they could work.

And the thing is: Flash had already lost his first game in this particular match against his arch-nemesis at the time, Fantasy (who'd 3-0 him in his last OSL appearance three months later). So I'm sure he was even more eager to make up for that.
And then to go out in such a nail-biter micro-fest after seemingly having the upper hand.

He was covering his eyes the whole time after having been dragged out on stage in the end to take a bow with his team. Heartbreaking...



The thing about his stats being different between the 2 sources. The answer to that question is they are both right lol.
What I mean by this is that yes the official stat from the video is right because it is his regular season stat with a 15-2 record. KT Rolster's regular season ended at March 10th and after that is playoff.
So Liquipedia is of course right in a sense that it recorded all the games FlaSh played during the season including the playoffs


Thanks for clearing that up.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44930 Posts
February 18 2024 21:28 GMT
#12
Such a great game
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51490 Posts
February 18 2024 22:33 GMT
#13
i have fond memories watching this live at my universities lecture theater with other starcraft fans - i remember the desperate run home to catch public transport home because it ended so late.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25924 Posts
February 19 2024 04:01 GMT
#14
A classic.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25924 Posts
February 19 2024 10:00 GMT
#15
Also how difficult time-consuming is it to upscale these kind of videos? It seems to work rather well
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okso
Profile Joined August 2023
Korea (South)101 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-19 11:58:27
February 19 2024 11:57 GMT
#16
On February 19 2024 19:00 WombaT wrote:
Also how difficult time-consuming is it to upscale these kind of videos? It seems to work rather well


As all things go it really depends on the source video and your GPU.
I have a 3080 TUF and I do not limit the software when it is upscaling the vid at all so it usally gets the job done pretty quickly I'd say.
For a video like this one I think it took about 40? minutes. The video was 30 fps and I upscaled the resolution by 400% but since old kespa era videos are usually in a pretty bad shape compared to nowadays standards, usually my computer can upscale something like 100 - 110 frames per second.
If the source video is in a good shape and also is 60 fps, that now ironically takes a lot more time.
But editing the video for these games takes the most time anyways so it really never matters for me lol.
And oh yeah finding the right settings for these videos takes a long time actually
every video is in a different state so I have to experiment different clips with different settings before I wanna waste 40+ minutes and whatnot
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 19 2024 22:09 GMT
#17
Great video, thanks for sharing!
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
February 20 2024 02:14 GMT
#18
Gotta say, Bisu's got the most annoying scouting probe EVER.

These videos are upscaled? No wonder they look so much clearer than what I remembered, that's pretty damn cool!
felleN
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia64 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-20 09:08:34
February 20 2024 09:08 GMT
#19
I can't believe this was over 10 years ago now. I remember watching this live, I basically just got into Brood war and this was the first finals watching live. Damm this was such an epic game. I remember being on my edge of my seat thinking Bisu had lost. This one of Brood war magics.
"I am fucking godly at, like, fucking god. AHHHH" -combatEX
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 20 2024 10:51 GMT
#20
One of the best finals of all time. Remember watching this live on like a 240p stream lol

SKT BEST KT!
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4220 Posts
February 20 2024 11:06 GMT
#21
On February 20 2024 19:51 Qikz wrote:
One of the best finals of all time. Remember watching this live on like a 240p stream lol

SKT BEST KT!

same, hehe

Cheers, man.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1453 Posts
February 20 2024 21:46 GMT
#22
Battle of the cryprobros
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10219 Posts
February 20 2024 22:54 GMT
#23
I still contend that this map, which was a Protoss and Zerg only map and a Terran graveyard, should've seen Stats or even one of the KT zergs should've been sent out. Hoejja was actually undefeated in the playoffs (6-0) while Action was 5-1. Either of them were options that could've seen them as viable picks on the map. Even Stats was fielded as ACE against Stork in the KHAN match.
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Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia401 Posts
February 21 2024 05:03 GMT
#24
Nice. And we aso need AI tools to convert these old videos to remaster
j.r.r.
Lazorstorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
33 Posts
February 21 2024 13:16 GMT
#25
That was awesome. thanks for sharing
Long time lurker
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19290 Posts
February 21 2024 13:25 GMT
#26
On February 21 2024 07:54 FlaShFTW wrote:
I still contend that this map, which was a Protoss and Zerg only map and a Terran graveyard, should've seen Stats or even one of the KT zergs should've been sent out. Hoejja was actually undefeated in the playoffs (6-0) while Action was 5-1. Either of them were options that could've seen them as viable picks on the map. Even Stats was fielded as ACE against Stork in the KHAN match.

How do you not send the greatest BW player of all time in the final Kespa Proleague match ever to be played? I agree with what you are saying if this were any other season of proleague.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Nasigil
Profile Joined July 2023
137 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-21 15:17:41
February 21 2024 15:17 GMT
#27
This is amazing. This is what RTS is all about, countless strategic planning and countering every second, constant skirmishes from start to finish. Bisu is not known for being a strategic genius but he made all the right decision in this game. That counter attack was such a stroke of genius.

If only SC2's TvP is half as good as in BW.
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