• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:46
CET 01:46
KST 09:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT25Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book17Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0241LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game?
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) How do the "codes" work in GSL? LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
A new season just kicks off A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Do you consider PvZ imbalanced? Recent recommended BW games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Fighting Spirit mining rates Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Mexico's Drug War US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here!
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2486 users

Which was the first Race ?

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Leonix
Profile Joined June 2019
161 Posts
October 05 2023 19:26 GMT
#1
From which Standard did they started to go to develop the other races?

I would think Terran since they seem the most basic RTS race and they are quite similar to the Warcraft 1 and 2 races in contrast to Creep needing Zerg with their flying houses or the pylon network of the Protoss.

Also the original game campaign starts with Terran.

Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
250 Posts
October 05 2023 20:17 GMT
#2
Xel`Naga. They created all the other races.
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
October 05 2023 21:29 GMT
#3
I'd say judging by the only alpha screenshot's I've seen it's actually zerg?

https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/StarCraft_alpha
Graphics
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-05 21:52:13
October 05 2023 21:41 GMT
#4
I think terran is the first fully realized race Blizzard made, zerg and protoss were ideas that were included in the campaign. Then zerg was made, then protoss. The races were made in the order of the campaign. Blizzard was inspired by 40k, Alien, and Starship Troopers. So Terran and Zerg were the natural two races, Space marines vs Tyranids, Humans vs Xenomorphs, and Terrans vs Arachnids. Protoss was made last and was a little more original concept.

As far a lore, I think Xel'Naga made the protoss probably older than terrans, then terrans discover zerg before the protoss, so zerg is likely younger than terran. So P is the oldest, then terran and the youngest would be zerg. You might think in the Zerus the birthplace of zerg would be ancient, but zerg probably evolved very quickly.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Leonix
Profile Joined June 2019
161 Posts
October 06 2023 14:22 GMT
#5
On October 06 2023 06:29 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I'd say judging by the only alpha screenshot's I've seen it's actually zerg?

https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/StarCraft_alpha

As i remembered, they actually kind of remade the whole game after "Space in orcs", so wouldnt the races kind of be totally different to the original Warcraft 2 engine/ campaign editor...
And they also did some change after that, no? We had the Starcraft in the Diablo engine and they also changed the engine or something there. Hard to say how much was left from the Original Warcraft 2 expansion game orcs in the back hole.

Also there are far more screen shoots from that game, like minerals asteroids with intercepters and stuff flying around, etc.
Leonix
Profile Joined June 2019
161 Posts
October 06 2023 14:34 GMT
#6
On October 06 2023 06:41 Mutaller wrote:
I think terran is the first fully realized race Blizzard made, zerg and protoss were ideas that were included in the campaign. Then zerg was made, then protoss. The races were made in the order of the campaign. Blizzard was inspired by 40k, Alien, and Starship Troopers. So Terran and Zerg were the natural two races, Space marines vs Tyranids, Humans vs Xenomorphs, and Terrans vs Arachnids. Protoss was made last and was a little more original concept.

As far a lore, I think Xel'Naga made the protoss probably older than terrans, then terrans discover zerg before the protoss, so zerg is likely younger than terran. So P is the oldest, then terran and the youngest would be zerg. You might think in the Zerus the birthplace of zerg would be ancient, but zerg probably evolved very quickly.



Terran definitely plays very similar to the previous games warcraft 1 and 2 that are very similar to starcraft 1. Dont forget Babylon 5 Zerg= Shadows, Protoss= Vorlons, i mean the Guardians literally look like their ships even the shadows itself are not so far from hydras, And the vorlon ships and some of the clothing looks a bit like Protoss. ,etc.

The thing is many units and things from the warcraft 1 and warcraft 2 look or feel the similar to some units. Like the basic unit of warcraft 1 is like zealot...
That is why it is hard to say really...
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-06 19:53:25
October 06 2023 19:50 GMT
#7
On October 06 2023 06:29 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I'd say judging by the only alpha screenshot's I've seen it's actually zerg?

https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/StarCraft_alpha

According to this wiki Terran was developed first, then Zerg and Protoss were developed concurrently. Zerg development took more time than Protoss as Blizzard spent a lot of effort to get the look right.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-09 08:55:55
October 09 2023 08:54 GMT
#8
On October 07 2023 04:50 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2023 06:29 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I'd say judging by the only alpha screenshot's I've seen it's actually zerg?

https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/StarCraft_alpha

According to this wiki Terran was developed first, then Zerg and Protoss were developed concurrently. Zerg development took more time than Protoss as Blizzard spent a lot of effort to get the look right.


Where does it say that exactly? The link you provided does not even mention Terran!!!

"The zerg race was originally known as the "Zurg."[2][3] The name was changed to "nightmare invaders"[4][5] (sometimes spelled "nightmarish invaders")[6][7] soon after, due to a copyright claim by Disney. It was finally changed to "zerg."[8]"

This is a much more comprehensive article on the matter and I don't see a mention of which one was developed first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft_(video_game)

It DOES appear to be Nightmare Invaders (later Zerg) but I don't see any evidence pointing to Terran.

Also if it's not P it's funny because: Protos means "first," derived from the ancient Greek πρῶτος.

Please cite actual sources and links not just conjectures!

ko-fi.com/luckynoob
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
October 09 2023 17:04 GMT
#9
On October 09 2023 17:54 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2023 04:50 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On October 06 2023 06:29 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I'd say judging by the only alpha screenshot's I've seen it's actually zerg?

https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/StarCraft_alpha

According to this wiki Terran was developed first, then Zerg and Protoss were developed concurrently. Zerg development took more time than Protoss as Blizzard spent a lot of effort to get the look right.


Where does it say that exactly? The link you provided does not even mention Terran!!!

"The zerg race was originally known as the "Zurg."[2][3] The name was changed to "nightmare invaders"[4][5] (sometimes spelled "nightmarish invaders")[6][7] soon after, due to a copyright claim by Disney. It was finally changed to "zerg."[8]"

This is a much more comprehensive article on the matter and I don't see a mention of which one was developed first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft_(video_game)

It DOES appear to be Nightmare Invaders (later Zerg) but I don't see any evidence pointing to Terran.

Also if it's not P it's funny because: Protos means "first," derived from the ancient Greek πρῶτος.

Please cite actual sources and links not just conjectures!



I deleted twitter, best just to ask Chris Metzen himself. https://twitter.com/ChrisMetzen

I would ask in what order were the race ideas came about, and then what races got their tech tree first.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-09 22:17:30
October 09 2023 22:15 GMT
#10


Just ask there lol, also no surprise this dude is into wh40k.
FBH #1!
Sd13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Vietnam186 Posts
October 10 2023 04:17 GMT
#11
https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/12/03/20-years-of-starcraft-an-ign-retrospective

“Terran were the first and easiest to make,” Rob tells me, when discussing the three iconic playable races – Terran, Zerg, and Protoss - that would be playable in both the StarCraft campaign and the multiplayer component.
정명훈 \m/
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1518 Posts
October 10 2023 06:59 GMT
#12
On October 10 2023 13:17 Sd13 wrote:
https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/12/03/20-years-of-starcraft-an-ign-retrospective

Show nested quote +
“Terran were the first and easiest to make,” Rob tells me, when discussing the three iconic playable races – Terran, Zerg, and Protoss - that would be playable in both the StarCraft campaign and the multiplayer component.


That's the one I was looking for. So Tesagi are the Protos.
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
October 10 2023 15:13 GMT
#13
On October 10 2023 13:17 Sd13 wrote:
https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/12/03/20-years-of-starcraft-an-ign-retrospective

Show nested quote +
“Terran were the first and easiest to make,” Rob tells me, when discussing the three iconic playable races – Terran, Zerg, and Protoss - that would be playable in both the StarCraft campaign and the multiplayer component.


They continue to say zerg was late in development and had the most revisions. So it is actually Terran Protoss then Zerg. I do think the idea of Zerg was easy, like 40k or alien, but the look of the race was probably hard to make original looking bugs
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
October 12 2023 01:50 GMT
#14
On October 09 2023 17:54 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2023 04:50 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On October 06 2023 06:29 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I'd say judging by the only alpha screenshot's I've seen it's actually zerg?

https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/StarCraft_alpha

According to this wiki Terran was developed first, then Zerg and Protoss were developed concurrently. Zerg development took more time than Protoss as Blizzard spent a lot of effort to get the look right.


Where does it say that exactly? The link you provided does not even mention Terran!!!

"The zerg race was originally known as the "Zurg."[2][3] The name was changed to "nightmare invaders"[4][5] (sometimes spelled "nightmarish invaders")[6][7] soon after, due to a copyright claim by Disney. It was finally changed to "zerg."[8]"

This is a much more comprehensive article on the matter and I don't see a mention of which one was developed first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft_(video_game)

It DOES appear to be Nightmare Invaders (later Zerg) but I don't see any evidence pointing to Terran.

Also if it's not P it's funny because: Protos means "first," derived from the ancient Greek πρῶτος.

Please cite actual sources and links not just conjectures!


https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Zerg#Development
The zerg were developed concurrently alongside the protoss.[138] However, the zerg underwent more revision than their counterpart in the original game; Blizzard frequently let its artists hold "jam sessions" to find the right look for the creatures. The hydralisk became the basis for the zerg after its reveal, namely that the zerg would be a purely organic race, with the look and feel being "hard chitinous plates and supple muscular flesh with lots of sharp points."[133]

https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Terran#Development
The idea of humans being in StarCraft was present from the outset,[65] and were the first race developed for the game.[42] However, the developers didn't want to do the "Galactic Good Guys" trope, instead going with "Surly Space Cowboys That Were Prisoners,"[65] otherwise referred to as being "akin to the outlaws of the Old West, except in power armor and rocking gauss rifles."[66]
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Playoffs
CranKy Ducklings113
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech141
RuFF_SC2 92
Nina 66
FoxeR 50
Ketroc 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 9795
GuemChi 1257
Artosis 787
nyoken 59
NaDa 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm108
League of Legends
JimRising 634
Reynor35
Counter-Strike
taco 367
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King92
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor218
Other Games
summit1g10828
Maynarde128
KnowMe59
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1211
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH228
• musti20045 15
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 22
• RayReign 13
• Azhi_Dahaki7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21099
League of Legends
• Doublelift3274
• Scarra749
Other Games
• imaqtpie1553
• Shiphtur129
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 14m
Wardi Open
11h 14m
Monday Night Weeklies
16h 14m
OSC
23h 14m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 11h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
SC Evo Complete
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-22
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.