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[ASL16] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Rematches

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[ASL16] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Rematches

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September 18th, 2023 02:52 GMT
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TvZ is widely regarded the greatest matchup in BW history for how versatile it can be, chuck in some of the best players who already have a lot of history in the ASL of facing off against each other and we are bound for a wild ride.

The third meeting for the third year in a row between Rush and hero, both at the peak of their game this time, followed up by a rematch of last season's Ro8 banger between Soulkey and JyJ, what a great week of Brood war.

Group A Preview

Workhorsemen



The one thing that should go without saying about (T)Rush and (Z)hero is that they are absolute workhorses who generally always have the most matches played in a month. Usually in that case both players are very aware of what the other is capable of. Expect some planned builds going into this series.

Another season another Ro8 appearance for hero, this time beating ample twice while falling short to (Z)Soulkey in the winner’s set of their Ro16 encounter and in general has shown some of the most crisp ZvT plays we’ve seen all season.

Rush also has managed to decisively make it through the Ro16 only dropping a single set to Mind in the winner’s game, his only show in TvZ has been against the rookie (Z)ivOry in the Ro24 whom he dispatched with ease.

This will be the third time hero and Rush face off against each other in the bracket in the ASL, first time in the Ro8 and not the Ro4, both prior series Rush has won(4-1 in ASL 12, 4-3 in ASL 14). Seems like you can always count on Rush and hero to face each other in the fall.

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No surprise here that Rush picked(Wiki)Polypoidand (Wiki)La Campanella. Polypoid is the most figured out map in the pool and being that kind of standard favors Terran players a lot more than the other two races.

(Wiki)La Campanella is one of those maps where you can truly just look at it and scream tank imba, its really good for Terran to take bases from others very easily, especially someone like rush who really knows how to push those bases, plus having that wide open area behind the natural tends to be good vs Mutas, if Rush can prepare hero’s lurker play which he loves to do more than Mutas he will have it in the bag on La Campanella.

(Wiki)Neo Dark Origin and (Wiki)Invader were hero’s pick, both maps that both online and in this ASL have shown to be pretty good for Zerg against Terran for how well they are for Zergs to keep bases against Terran

Final map is (Wiki)Tempest (Map), which based on online results so far has been a map that slightly favors Zerg over Terran.

Overall the feeling is that maps favor hero while their history has favored Rush, both players are very much in good form and honestly we are most likely to be disappointed if it doesn’t go all the way to game 5 than any result.

Question becomes if Rush can overcome that map disadvantage or not, I think he can.

(T)Rush To Advance To The Semifinals 3-2!


Group B Preview

Redux



Strange fate for both (T)JyJ and (Z)Soulkey to find themselves facing off against each other in the Ro8 again but a welcome rematch for any fans out there after how their last match went down. Will Soulkey have his revenge or does JyJ have it in him to do it again.

Soulkey has only had to play one game against Terran this season and it was against (T)Sea in the Ro24 losers match who is not the best opponent to really judge what Soulkey’s ZvT is going to look like this season.

JyJ has only had to deal with TvZ thanks to stacking his Ro16 group with that extra champions advantage to make sure he had 3 zergs, though it's not like he came out unscathed losing 2-0 to (Z)EffOrt in the winner’s match and having only beaten (Z)Calm to get out of his group.

Nonetheless having to just continue only practising TvZ is going to sharpen his focus, also helps that he only has to prepare for one opponent now.

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Map picks this season tend to be pretty obvious for Terrans and zergs in general with Terran going for the more familiar maps or at the very least standard looking maps where you’re always going to see them take (Wiki)Polypoid or (Wiki)Retro, much like JyJ has taken in this series.

Soulkey’s picks are (Wiki)Tempest (Map) and (Wiki)Invader, both newer maps and have great results for Zergs against Terrans with online games having Terrans mostly avoiding playing Zergs on invader. It also seems pretty clear that Soulkey banned Apocalypse and JyJ rightfully banned Neo Dark Origin, both maps having pretty skewed results towards Terran and Zerg respectively.

That leaves us with (Wiki)La Campenalla for the final map. (Neo Neo Requiem if you want to be old school about it.) A map that I’ve already said in the hero vs Rush preview above is pretty damn good for Terran.

Map set and History favor JyJ at the moment, Soulkey would need to really step up if he’s to win, he's got a better shot winning before game 5, if it goes all the way JyJ wins.

So I’m going to cop out and make a double prediction here for once.

(Z)Soulkey Wins 3-1 And Advances To The Semifinals!
OR
(T)JyJ Wins 3-2 And Advances To The Semifinals!




Writers: BLinD-RawR
Graphics: BLinD-RawR
Editors: BLinD-RawR

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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
September 18 2023 08:46 GMT
#2
Thanks for the preview! Rooting for Soulkey. No preference in Rush v Hero but hoping for GGs overall. Fighting!
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
September 18 2023 09:18 GMT
#3
Hahah! The prediction for Day 2 is just too hard.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
September 18 2023 10:35 GMT
#4
Let’s all send our love to BR for solo-ing this preview. Thanks for your hard work!
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
September 18 2023 14:45 GMT
#5
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria378 Posts
September 18 2023 15:07 GMT
#6
Is this the first time with a double prediction for a given match?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
September 18 2023 15:50 GMT
#7
I don't think so, but it is the first time both predictions get the bold text treatment.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
September 19 2023 12:10 GMT
#8
On September 18 2023 19:35 BisuDagger wrote:
Let’s all send our love to BR for solo-ing this preview. Thanks for your hard work!

Indeed!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom250 Posts
September 19 2023 14:01 GMT
#9
Thanks, definitely helps me to get the map lowdown.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 20 2023 19:30 GMT
#10
I second that, it is always great to read about the maps!
The heart's eternal vow
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5203 Posts
September 21 2023 09:22 GMT
#11
Double prediction. Damn. That should be a close series then!

Respect for rambo-ing the previews and LRs
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