• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:12
CEST 14:12
KST 21:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Remastered crash fix suggestions ASL22 General Discussion Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6677 users

[ASL16] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Rematches

Forum Index > BW General
10 CommentsPost a Reply

[ASL16] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Rematches

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byBLinD-RawR
September 18th, 2023 02:52 GMT
ASL11 Main Image
TvZ is widely regarded the greatest matchup in BW history for how versatile it can be, chuck in some of the best players who already have a lot of history in the ASL of facing off against each other and we are bound for a wild ride.

The third meeting for the third year in a row between Rush and hero, both at the peak of their game this time, followed up by a rematch of last season's Ro8 banger between Soulkey and JyJ, what a great week of Brood war.

Group A Preview

Workhorsemen



The one thing that should go without saying about (T)Rush and (Z)hero is that they are absolute workhorses who generally always have the most matches played in a month. Usually in that case both players are very aware of what the other is capable of. Expect some planned builds going into this series.

Another season another Ro8 appearance for hero, this time beating ample twice while falling short to (Z)Soulkey in the winner’s set of their Ro16 encounter and in general has shown some of the most crisp ZvT plays we’ve seen all season.

Rush also has managed to decisively make it through the Ro16 only dropping a single set to Mind in the winner’s game, his only show in TvZ has been against the rookie (Z)ivOry in the Ro24 whom he dispatched with ease.

This will be the third time hero and Rush face off against each other in the bracket in the ASL, first time in the Ro8 and not the Ro4, both prior series Rush has won(4-1 in ASL 12, 4-3 in ASL 14). Seems like you can always count on Rush and hero to face each other in the fall.

[image loading]


No surprise here that Rush picked(Wiki)Polypoidand (Wiki)La Campanella. Polypoid is the most figured out map in the pool and being that kind of standard favors Terran players a lot more than the other two races.

(Wiki)La Campanella is one of those maps where you can truly just look at it and scream tank imba, its really good for Terran to take bases from others very easily, especially someone like rush who really knows how to push those bases, plus having that wide open area behind the natural tends to be good vs Mutas, if Rush can prepare hero’s lurker play which he loves to do more than Mutas he will have it in the bag on La Campanella.

(Wiki)Neo Dark Origin and (Wiki)Invader were hero’s pick, both maps that both online and in this ASL have shown to be pretty good for Zerg against Terran for how well they are for Zergs to keep bases against Terran

Final map is (Wiki)Tempest (Map), which based on online results so far has been a map that slightly favors Zerg over Terran.

Overall the feeling is that maps favor hero while their history has favored Rush, both players are very much in good form and honestly we are most likely to be disappointed if it doesn’t go all the way to game 5 than any result.

Question becomes if Rush can overcome that map disadvantage or not, I think he can.

(T)Rush To Advance To The Semifinals 3-2!


Group B Preview

Redux



Strange fate for both (T)JyJ and (Z)Soulkey to find themselves facing off against each other in the Ro8 again but a welcome rematch for any fans out there after how their last match went down. Will Soulkey have his revenge or does JyJ have it in him to do it again.

Soulkey has only had to play one game against Terran this season and it was against (T)Sea in the Ro24 losers match who is not the best opponent to really judge what Soulkey’s ZvT is going to look like this season.

JyJ has only had to deal with TvZ thanks to stacking his Ro16 group with that extra champions advantage to make sure he had 3 zergs, though it's not like he came out unscathed losing 2-0 to (Z)EffOrt in the winner’s match and having only beaten (Z)Calm to get out of his group.

Nonetheless having to just continue only practising TvZ is going to sharpen his focus, also helps that he only has to prepare for one opponent now.

[image loading]


Map picks this season tend to be pretty obvious for Terrans and zergs in general with Terran going for the more familiar maps or at the very least standard looking maps where you’re always going to see them take (Wiki)Polypoid or (Wiki)Retro, much like JyJ has taken in this series.

Soulkey’s picks are (Wiki)Tempest (Map) and (Wiki)Invader, both newer maps and have great results for Zergs against Terrans with online games having Terrans mostly avoiding playing Zergs on invader. It also seems pretty clear that Soulkey banned Apocalypse and JyJ rightfully banned Neo Dark Origin, both maps having pretty skewed results towards Terran and Zerg respectively.

That leaves us with (Wiki)La Campenalla for the final map. (Neo Neo Requiem if you want to be old school about it.) A map that I’ve already said in the hero vs Rush preview above is pretty damn good for Terran.

Map set and History favor JyJ at the moment, Soulkey would need to really step up if he’s to win, he's got a better shot winning before game 5, if it goes all the way JyJ wins.

So I’m going to cop out and make a double prediction here for once.

(Z)Soulkey Wins 3-1 And Advances To The Semifinals!
OR
(T)JyJ Wins 3-2 And Advances To The Semifinals!




Writers: BLinD-RawR
Graphics: BLinD-RawR
Editors: BLinD-RawR

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8090 Posts
September 18 2023 08:46 GMT
#2
Thanks for the preview! Rooting for Soulkey. No preference in Rush v Hero but hoping for GGs overall. Fighting!
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2605 Posts
September 18 2023 09:18 GMT
#3
Hahah! The prediction for Day 2 is just too hard.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
September 18 2023 10:35 GMT
#4
Let’s all send our love to BR for solo-ing this preview. Thanks for your hard work!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9291 Posts
September 18 2023 14:45 GMT
#5
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria387 Posts
September 18 2023 15:07 GMT
#6
Is this the first time with a double prediction for a given match?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51446 Posts
September 18 2023 15:50 GMT
#7
I don't think so, but it is the first time both predictions get the bold text treatment.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27353 Posts
September 19 2023 12:10 GMT
#8
On September 18 2023 19:35 BisuDagger wrote:
Let’s all send our love to BR for solo-ing this preview. Thanks for your hard work!

Indeed!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom252 Posts
September 19 2023 14:01 GMT
#9
Thanks, definitely helps me to get the map lowdown.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 20 2023 19:30 GMT
#10
I second that, it is always great to read about the maps!
The heart's eternal vow
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5892 Posts
September 21 2023 09:22 GMT
#11
Double prediction. Damn. That should be a close series then!

Respect for rambo-ing the previews and LRs
FBH #1!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 23
IntoTheiNu 919
RotterdaM321
WardiTV313
Rex106
TKL 51
SteadfastSC49
LiquipediaDiscussion
KCM Race Survival
10:00
Season 3 Finals
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1722
Liquipedia
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 109
CranKy Ducklings38
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko334
RotterdaM 321
ByuN 246
ProTech124
Rex 106
TKL 51
SteadfastSC 49
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 3229
Shuttle 1367
firebathero 815
EffOrt 809
Horang2 726
actioN 720
Soulkey 644
Mini 405
Snow 403
Soma 289
[ Show more ]
Light 200
Stork 170
Last 150
hero 135
Zeus 118
Pusan 107
Killer 91
ZerO 91
Hm[arnc] 90
Rush 78
Larva 77
910 69
Barracks 36
ToSsGirL 31
HiyA 27
Trap 26
Sharp 26
soO 25
Shine 24
Terrorterran 23
sSak 20
Noble 16
Sexy 12
sorry 8
scan(afreeca) 7
Icarus 5
Britney 0
Dota 2
Dendi672
Counter-Strike
byalli1736
olofmeister1569
edward103
markeloff22
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King66
Other Games
singsing2060
B2W.Neo633
Sick156
hiko150
DeMusliM47
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick805
BasetradeTV60
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 44
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2460
• TFBlade423
Other Games
• WagamamaTV190
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
11h 48m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
22h 48m
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 11h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Spirit vs Mixu
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.