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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
And well anything can happen in Bo1s | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4165 Posts
Pretty balanced this season, tbh. Should be fun to watch. Absolutely hate that it's still full bo1, but that will probably never change, so.. yeah.. PROTOSS FIGHTING ! ! ! | ||
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RogerChillingworth
2825 Posts
On February 20 2023 20:33 prosatan wrote: We have the groups ! Group A: Mini , Inguh , Action, sSak - 28th Feb Group B: Bisu , Hyun, Sharp, Barracks - 1st March Group C: soma, Ample, Best, Mind - 3rd March Group D: Snow, Bishop, Shuttle, JD! - 5th March Group E: Queen , Ruin, Shine, Mong - 6th March Group F: Light, Sacsri , JyJ , Stork - 8th March First group will be on 28 february. Let's go JAEDONG!! Wow...pretty wild. Mini and Queen got off kinda easy, no? That group C though! Feeling soma and Best but I hope Ample shows some good games. | ||
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Miragee
8470 Posts
On February 21 2023 02:04 redknights wrote: It is not random. Former player and current Afreeca employee 910 makes the groups. He also makes the qualifying groups. Round of 24 groups are made based on the 4 tiers corresponding to ASL points. Group selection ceremony is only Round of 16. Also the Korean community itself believes there are biased groups made to favor certain players, they even have a term for it "부커조" = 부커 (booker / booking) + 조 (Group). Why wouldn't Afreeca manipulate it so that the more popular streamers made it to ASL and thus get more interest/viewership? Well, fair enough, thanks for correcting me. That's bullshit then. Imho Ro24 groups should be drawn. For the qualifier I get it, as I said, and I think that's fair. | ||
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RJBTV
194 Posts
Mini , Inguh , Action, sSak - 28th Feb || Action and Mini for 1 and 2. Order depends on Action or Mini having a particularly good day. Group B: Bisu , Hyun, Sharp, Barracks - 1st March || Bisu and Barracks. Bisu should get out without a doubt. Barracks has really high peaks in TvT and I think it is going to come down to Sharp vs Barracks TvT, which I give to Barracks. Group C: soma, Ample, Best, Mind - 3rd March || Soma and Best are on paper the favorites by quite a bit. Ample can pull off upsets on his good days but it seems unlikely against Soma who is in my opinion #1 Zerg now. Against Mind there's a chance but Mind's favored. I do Hope Ample makes it out! Group D: Snow, Bishop, Shuttle, JD! - 5th March || No doubt, Snow and Jaedong. Group E: Queen , Ruin, Shine, Mong - 6th March || Queen and Mong. Ruin is capable of taking down Shine but I don't think he matches up well against either Queen or Mong. Shine also doesn't match up well against either of them. Group F: Light, Sacsri , JyJ , Stork - 8th March || JyJ and Light. Light on his good days is the #1 player in the tournament, and on his bad days a top 8 player. Can't say the same for the other three. JyJ is particularly strong in TvP so taking him over Stork. | ||
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TornadoSteve
1000 Posts
[B Group D: Snow, Bishop, Shuttle, JD! - 5th March || No doubt, Snow and Jaedong. Snow clear favorite, pretty sure jd is 4th favorite. Again, its bo1 but still... Snow and shutle, or snow and bishop imo. prosatan, i really hope to be wrong also | ||
Peeano
Netherlands4817 Posts
Sure we have streams we can tune into now, but it's just not the same. The biggest tournament in the world needs a good story too and Group Draw is historically a big part of it imo. I hope ASL doesn't do this again or makes up for it in another way of good pre-game and/or post-game interviews for example or like videos shorts for the Ro8 players. Make it a bit more personal. Let the fans connect with their favorite players. Edit: Group Draw may happen for Ro16? | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands4817 Posts
I'd give BishOp at most a 1% to advance. | ||
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2055 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands4817 Posts
On February 21 2023 11:44 FyRe_DragOn wrote: group draw ceremony is traditionally ro16, then the random draw with the balls for ro8. this is nothing unusual Right. Thanks. I guess it's been too long without ASL I had to find something to complain about lol | ||
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prosatan
Romania7764 Posts
On February 21 2023 08:02 RJBTV wrote: Group A: Mini , Inguh , Action, sSak - 28th Feb || Action and Mini for 1 and 2. Order depends on Action or Mini having a particularly good day. Group B: Bisu , Hyun, Sharp, Barracks - 1st March || Bisu and Barracks. Bisu should get out without a doubt. Barracks has really high peaks in TvT and I think it is going to come down to Sharp vs Barracks TvT, which I give to Barracks. Group C: soma, Ample, Best, Mind - 3rd March || Soma and Best are on paper the favorites by quite a bit. Ample can pull off upsets on his good days but it seems unlikely against Soma who is in my opinion #1 Zerg now. Against Mind there's a chance but Mind's favored. I do Hope Ample makes it out! Group D: Snow, Bishop, Shuttle, JD! - 5th March || No doubt, Snow and Jaedong. Group E: Queen , Ruin, Shine, Mong - 6th March || Queen and Mong. Ruin is capable of taking down Shine but I don't think he matches up well against either Queen or Mong. Shine also doesn't match up well against either of them. Group F: Light, Sacsri , JyJ , Stork - 8th March || JyJ and Light. Light on his good days is the #1 player in the tournament, and on his bad days a top 8 player. Can't say the same for the other three. JyJ is particularly strong in TvP so taking him over Stork. Agree 100 % RJBTV ! Please be right with prediction on group D  | ||
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Lazyer
United States339 Posts
Also lmao Stork... wonder if he's going to retire again after his group. Not easy by any means. | ||
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Samsakzerg
61 Posts
On February 21 2023 11:02 Peeano wrote: Without a doubt JD >>> BishOp. Snow and Shuttle are the favorites in their group though, Snow by a large margin. I'd give BishOp at most a 1% to advance. JD will come out 1st unless Snow plays his A game PVZ. JD has been steadily improvely, stacking up games after games in the pro league format with the top pros every night. His ZvT is still shaky, but even that is improving. His ZVZ ZVP are returning to top form. | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
On February 21 2023 16:18 Samsakzerg wrote: JD will come out 1st unless Snow plays his A game PVZ. JD has been steadily improvely, stacking up games after games in the pro league format with the top pros every night. His ZvT is still shaky, but even that is improving. His ZVZ ZVP are returning to top form. I hope you're right, JD has had many, many disappointing losses especially in his famous ZvZ ever since SC2 came out. I still remember him losing to HoGiL in Bacchus 2010 and then to Hydra in the MSL of the same year... In ASL he beat Flash only to lose to Action after, and of course in the last one he got eliminated by Shine. Whenever Tastosis mentions JvZ, I kinda shake my head. What you said sounds promising though! | ||
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TMNT
2530 Posts
Everyone should check out the daily proleagues thread to update the latest form of these players :d | ||
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TornadoSteve
1000 Posts
On February 21 2023 11:02 Peeano wrote: Without a doubt JD >>> BishOp. Snow and Shuttle are the favorites in their group though, Snow by a large margin. I'd give BishOp at most a 1% to advance. I would bet a considerable amount on the guy, with those odds | ||
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QOGQOG
828 Posts
On February 21 2023 17:17 IntoTheEmo wrote: I hope you're right, JD has had many, many disappointing losses especially in his famous ZvZ ever since SC2 came out. I still remember him losing to HoGiL in Bacchus 2010 and then to Hydra in the MSL of the same year... In ASL he beat Flash only to lose to Action after, and of course in the last one he got eliminated by Shine. Whenever Tastosis mentions JvZ, I kinda shake my head. What you said sounds promising though! I hear a lot of hype about JD each season and he (almost) never delivers. Combined with Shuttle's sometimes incredible PvZ, I wouldn't bet on him. | ||
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Miragee
8470 Posts
On February 21 2023 17:17 IntoTheEmo wrote: I hope you're right, JD has had many, many disappointing losses especially in his famous ZvZ ever since SC2 came out. I still remember him losing to HoGiL in Bacchus 2010 and then to Hydra in the MSL of the same year... In ASL he beat Flash only to lose to Action after, and of course in the last one he got eliminated by Shine. Whenever Tastosis mentions JvZ, I kinda shake my head. What you said sounds promising though! Are you talking about the 2010/2011 MSL which Hydra ended up winning? Because Hydra had an insane ZvZ at the time, I would argue the best ZvZ, mostly carried by his muta vs muta micro at the time. He had so many engagements with his first 6 mutas which he ended up winning... His ZvZ carried him to his MSL victory. I looked up his stats just now and he went 11-3 in ZvZ for that MSL with 2 of the 3 losses coming from JD. Yeah it felt disappointing because everyone expected JvZ but people forget Hydras insane ZvZ peak in this, for the sake of fairness fairly short, time frame. Jaedong really declined overall when SC2 came out and they started to split play time (tbf, so was everyone else to some extend). It was not just his ZvZ. It was just more noticable because it went from "JvZ" to "decent winrate with the usual ZvZ coinflip". And I would argue he has always been struggling with all 3 match ups, ZvT the most, since then, especially in the post-Kespa era. He just never came close again to become the force of nature he used be. If he is indeed improving again, that would make me very happy. One of my absolute favourite players ever. | ||
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Kespa1988
38 Posts
Combined with Shuttle's sometimes incredible PvZ, I wouldn't bet on him. A bit true, although his form has been increasing recently, it is still far from being stable. He has days with ratio 9:1 but also days with ratio 3:7, etc. Personally, I think that JD has enough skills to reach the ASL top four. He happens to win with Bisu or Royal with a nice advantage. What he lacks is the mentality, that sometimes makes him want too much. | ||
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Zografa
176 Posts
About JD - he is top1 on the korean ladder of sponmatches recently(if you isolate for only 2023 results). Playing lots of volume and having decent results vs almost everyone in all matchups. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/DCBoMj3.jpeg) | ||
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