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ASL 12 Revenge Battle

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Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-04 04:22:48
December 04 2021 04:20 GMT
#1
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Hello Guys!
The ASL Revenge Battle is back!

Hero vs Light
Light failed to respond to the high expectations of viewers and was defeated helplessly by Hero.
It cannot end like this. Will Light ever get revenge against Hero?

Soma vs JYJ
Their series continues the story from the ASL 11 Revenge Battle.
In ASL12, the duo put on some really crazy performances on polypoid, giving viewers the best game ever.
Now the challenger is JYJ again. Can JYJ get revenge against Soma?

Soulkey vs Rush
Rush is the best TvZ machine and has reached the ASL 12 finals
Although he was only runner-up, his progress to the final was very smooth.
But there is only one catch.
He lost helplessly in the Ro16 Winners match against Soulkey.
It didn't live up to its reputation as the best TvZ machine.
Rush took on a challenge against Soulkey.
Will Rush get his revenge against Soulkey and can he prove himself to be the ultimate Zerg killer?

Mini vs Royal
Even considering it's their first Ro8, the Royal was completely defeated by the Mini.
It was a match that was completely defeated in a psychological fight and the disadvantage of not experiencing multiple premises was clearly revealed.
Royal wants to deny a helpless 0-3 loss to Mini.
Can Royal get revenge on the champion?

This series is cast by Scan.
(Nyoken won't join the revenge battle for the BSL cast)

stream link : https://bj.afreecatv.com/dth03119

If you want to contribute to this series, you can do so on matcherino
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This series is set to 11:00 cet, which is the easiest time for you to watch live.
Considering that all the existing SCTV contents were 03:00 cet, I think 11:00 cet would be a much better time to watch.

Watching live is another great way to contribute to content on SCTV.

Thank you.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1496 Posts
December 13 2021 10:25 GMT
#2
As Shao Khan once said: I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE! I WILL... HAVE... MY... REVEEEEEEEEEEENGE!

Did my free contribution and will spread the link! Keep up the great work!
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
December 14 2021 14:24 GMT
#3
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Poll: Can Rush get revenge?

yes (11)
 
69%

no (5)
 
31%

16 total votes

Your vote: Can Rush get revenge?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no


Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-19 09:07:02
December 19 2021 09:04 GMT
#4
ASL12 Revenge Battle Soulkey vs Rush's series stream start now!

link : https://play.afreecatv.com/dth03119/237763130

If you want to contribute to this series, you can do so on matcherino
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link : https://matcherino.com/tournaments/58516
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
December 19 2021 09:56 GMT
#5
nice idea with this series
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
December 19 2021 10:13 GMT
#6
Hello friends, I am writing this post because I am curious about your opinions.
I've been streaming content from StarCastTV to 3am CET so far.
(at least 3am CET cast until streaming international battle content)
The reason is that it was a bad time for European viewers, but a good time for North American viewers.
But the live stream had really, really, really few viewers. Average of 10 viewers.

So I did some research on the viewers why the live stream has so few viewers, and they replied
"I live in Europe and 3am is not a good time to watch"

So this time I started streaming on 10-11 CET
It's a bad time to watch live for North American viewers, but I think it's a good time for European viewers to watch live.
But once again, an average of 10 viewers are watching it live.
lol
the viewership didn't increase.

In my opinion, maybe... content other than ASL and ASTL is not of interest to English viewers.
In the case of ASL International Battle, I thought that might be the case, but ASL Revenge Battle was very interesting content, but the number of live viewers was too small.

Scan and Nyoken take the time to cast their content in English exclusively for English viewers. The way you guys support them is by watching the streaming live.
If this continues, we have no choice but to seriously think about whether to continue providing an English cast service.

I'm curious about your opinions. What do you think it would take to get a lot of English viewers watching a live stream? Of course, I think time is also important.
Maybe I can think of a way to delete the VOD after the live stream and not upload it to YouTube so that the content can only be viewed on the live stream.

Of course, if I upload the VOD to YouTube, more viewers will watch the VOD. But for content to continue to be produced, live streaming viewers must be large.

If you have any ideas for how to increase live stream viewership, let me know what you think in the comments.

Thank you
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-19 11:24:22
December 19 2021 11:24 GMT
#7
A few things:

1. The foreigner vs Korean semi-pro battles are not interesting because they are one-sided. Unless you thrown in the Top3-4 foreigners
2. Most BW viewers are probably not able to devote more than prime-time slots (like BSL is for CET) and maybe some weekend ASL rounds for live viewing of games.
3. VOD format is the way to go, because of the target audience
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
December 19 2021 12:11 GMT
#8
On December 19 2021 20:24 oxKnu wrote:
A few things:

1. The foreigner vs Korean semi-pro battles are not interesting because they are one-sided. Unless you thrown in the Top3-4 foreigners
2. Most BW viewers are probably not able to devote more than prime-time slots (like BSL is for CET) and maybe some weekend ASL rounds for live viewing of games.
3. VOD format is the way to go, because of the target audience



In the case of the international battle, Bonyth , Dewalt , and Dandy participated, and the opponents were also Korean pro gamers. Isn't Bonyth Dewalt Dandy a Top4 Foreign Gamer?
I understand the second your comment
VOD views don't mean much. The only metric used to create content is the number of live stream viewers.
sas.Sziky
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary301 Posts
December 19 2021 12:20 GMT
#9
it's hard to say. Maybe try it some race wars? Since if at the same time is present will Bonyth, Dewalt, Dandy do you attract more people?(3 players fans) or same format what you did Progamer vs Foreigner(was there a viewer?) but now not Progamer rather Semi-pro ?
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1210 Posts
December 19 2021 12:56 GMT
#10
I've noticed a few things, from a viewing perspective - mostly targeted at foreigner-land :

- people don't care much about non-top foreigners (top 12-16), and sometimes for good reason, the play is too sloppy and looks too much like a random ladder game
- continental wars/race wars are interesting/fun as long as the format is also cool (done within a weekend, 2-day type thing)
- good quality casting is necessary - this means people that know the game and also have decent audio (not just random 10 hour community casts with whomever)

I really suggest some of you that want to continue providing this content to consider building a brand/channel dedicated to this and open up a long-standing patreon that focuses on quality of content.

From other areas of the internet I can tell you that doing these events and then having them uploaded as VODs on youtube is your best bet for SC. The target audience is mostly 30+ yr olds that don't care about twitter/checking discords every day and having twitch streams open all the time.

For such a small community it's also quite weird that there are like 3 team leagues, and multiple tier 1v1 tournaments when the player base is so small.

It seems like some people just want to put up their own stuff just because they can. A more concentrated effort would be better and would increase hype and competition.

<<All of these are intended as constructive criticism.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1210 Posts
December 19 2021 13:36 GMT
#11
I'd also mention that all of these things would be more popular and have more reach if Blizzard just put up a community tab in the BNET launcher where people can see notable ongoing events (with some links etc)

However something even as low-effort as that is a momentous task for such a low-life useless company.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey744 Posts
December 26 2021 18:19 GMT
#12
No Mini vs Royal today ?
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-28 21:31:25
December 28 2021 21:14 GMT
#13
https://play.afreecatv.com/dth03119/237947027

Mini vs Royal's series stream now

If you want to contribute to this series, you can do so on matcherino
Click on Claims Coupon to Contribute $0.3 Free!!

link : https://matcherino.com/tournaments/58516
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada122 Posts
December 30 2021 19:31 GMT
#14
On December 19 2021 19:13 Cruiser0929 wrote:
Hello friends, I am writing this post because I am curious about your opinions.


Honestly for me, VODs are just so much more convenient. I can pause the video and come back if I suddenly have something to do, and I can watch at my own pace. Unless there's super active audience participation in a stream, I'll generally prefer to just wait until VODs are out.
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