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ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-25 16:25:12
November 25 2021 16:23 GMT
#21
Which ones are yours KD MAN?

"ultimately what matters is how the games on it play out and if they're balanced enough for competition and ladder."

100% for me. Newer/different maps are much more likely to produce wonky/short/weird games Don't get me wrong I love them too, especially seeing a desert or ice or ash tileset map which are pretty rare now days.

At least we got the New Worlds Map Contest though.Anyone's welcome to create and submit maps, collaborate and all the decision making is public/democratic, with a chance to get the maps into leagues (Including ASL and ladder). If there's a time to be map making, it's now. Can't ask for more than that.
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benno1988
Profile Joined April 2020
30 Posts
November 25 2021 17:08 GMT
#22
i want to play sand castle great maps! thank you for sharing your work
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
November 25 2021 18:21 GMT
#23
I think nice maps are maps that the majority will enjoy playing without being forced to play it.
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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-25 19:44:29
November 25 2021 19:37 GMT
#24
I would love for a map like (2)Broken Bridge to work with the game 1vs1 but I don't think it does because unfortunately the balance of some match ups such as PvZ does not allow it If there is land access, P pretty much needs to be able to wall off a natural not to be at a big disadvantage. Yes the game would have more (strategic) depth imo if these kinds of maps worked and there were more viable opening options in that match up but it's not like that. I see it kind of like a original dream of the game that didn't fully work out because extra extra balancing work would be needed. Also it's an example imo of where a RTS dev could be looking to develop a even better game.
(ofc to be fair there is still a good diversity of playable maps in the game)
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
November 26 2021 00:39 GMT
#25
@KD_MAN
I take the maps:
https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1/posts/53049736?page=3
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/maplist.php?limit=30
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
TNWZombie
Profile Joined March 2021
Korea (South)70 Posts
November 26 2021 00:54 GMT
#26
If you need this map, take it. I recently updated it.

(4)Holy Place of Life 0.94
- Download
Melee : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LyEp5Kz-cbFREp-XedykKglqmYV8GH-G/view?usp=sharing
Observer : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i0o61zKer05kFNT9X2ITkhlGa_cfEimr/view?usp=sharing
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
November 26 2021 05:13 GMT
#27
Thank you for your map. I will play with my friends
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 26 2021 09:33 GMT
#28
Playing maps for fun -/- playing maps in a tournament(ladder) setting

I recently started playing Dire Straits on battle net just for the lulz. It was very enjoyable and I felt like I was in 1999 again. I really really enjoyed it.

Would I want it to be in a tournament map poo? Hell no! A ladder map pool? No thanks!

You get my point?

For casual/fun stuff many maps are viable. For tournament and ladder play the maps should try as hard as possible to be balanced.

hatred outlives the hateful
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 26 2021 14:05 GMT
#29
Did they never try to make maps specifically for a match up? It would give more room for some originality without the burden to balance it for all 3 match ups.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-26 14:11:52
November 26 2021 14:11 GMT
#30
Separate/Designated map pools for non-mirror matchups is an interesting idea for tournaments. (with no vetoes)
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
November 26 2021 17:51 GMT
#31
On November 26 2021 23:05 nojok wrote:
Did they never try to make maps specifically for a match up? It would give more room for some originality without the burden to balance it for all 3 match ups.

Yeah i have had that thought at times too i think it would be interesting.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-26 20:54:36
November 26 2021 20:52 GMT
#32
I want a tournament map to be balanced across all 3 matchups because the reality is that players cannot switch races and remain competitive. Players invest in mastering a particular race, and I like seeing the game played at that level of mastery. Therefore, I want to see tournaments played on maps where all 3 races can compete on even footing.

That being said, I would love for mirror matches to be played on nonstandard maps. ANY symmetrical map is fair game in a mirror matchup.

I like watching high-level games on nonstandard maps, but I want some thought and testing to go into the map balance beforehand.

EDIT: But what I *really* want to see is 1v1 Team Melee games where you start with a worker of a second race :D
May the BeSt man win.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
November 26 2021 21:03 GMT
#33
On November 27 2021 05:52 Djabanete wrote:
I want a tournament map to be balanced across all 3 matchups because the reality is that players cannot switch races and remain competitive. Players invest in mastering a particular race, and I like seeing the game played at that level of mastery. Therefore, I want to see tournaments played on maps where all 3 races can compete on even footing.

Sure but you could also have a map pool that varies a bit based on the match up being played assuming the players announce their pick before match though. Also yeah agree all mirror match ups could freely be played on just about any kind of map.
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
November 26 2021 23:34 GMT
#34
could would should maybe perhaps
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benno1988
Profile Joined April 2020
30 Posts
December 02 2021 11:22 GMT
#35
I cant find a way to download sand castle from bj.afreecatv.com.
I want to play it so badly
KD_MAN
Profile Joined April 2021
Korea (South)13 Posts
December 02 2021 13:36 GMT
#36
On December 02 2021 20:22 benno1988 wrote:
I cant find a way to download sand castle from bj.afreecatv.com.
I want to play it so badly



https://ygosu.com/community/st1/348606/?page=2&searcht=w&search=%EA%B5%90%EB%8F%99%EB%A7%A8
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3352 Posts
December 02 2021 14:27 GMT
#37
I also prefer 'balanced" maps for tournaments however we could organise a fun tournaments on new maps that are revealed at start time.

It would lead to funky stuff and would be entertaining to watch
Horang2 fan
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
December 02 2021 15:10 GMT
#38
My games are on Holy_Place_of_Life0.94 map

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k7bqss-tn6RQn9W7m9Gv7aIZlv-0r6zN/view
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
benno1988
Profile Joined April 2020
30 Posts
December 02 2021 19:11 GMT
#39
On December 02 2021 22:36 KD_MAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2021 20:22 benno1988 wrote:
I cant find a way to download sand castle from bj.afreecatv.com.
I want to play it so badly



https://ygosu.com/community/st1/348606/?page=2&searcht=w&search=%EA%B5%90%EB%8F%99%EB%A7%A8


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