• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:19
CEST 23:19
KST 06:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview vespene.gg — BW replays in browser [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies UA StarCraft: Mawin (T) vs hanniGan (P) Showmatch
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1402 users

How to improve ladder system recently?

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-16 05:08:35
June 16 2021 05:07 GMT
#1
1. Map pool

7 maps are so less. Map pool should have 10 maps and 5 vetoes every season. Arto usually has more than 1 map that he hates but he doesn't enough veto to do.

10 maps: 3 standard maps (Circuit Breaker, Match Point and Neo Sylphid) for the guys have no time to train. 3 old maps for the guys love to old days (OSL, MSL, WCG, SSL, Blizzcon, Proleague) 4 new maps (ASL and New Worlds Map Contest).

2. Connection

I must to play with low quality Internet recently. I wish I have to wait matching my games longer with the good quality Internet.

3. Surrender

Sometimes, both players don't like play their games. Maybe mirror matchup, bad internet, their mom call... We need a command surrender, if both players agree, they have to be minused 1 mmr. Lost 1 mmr than playing a bad game.

4. +/- mmr point

I saw Shinee who won a game with +0 mmr point. I play so much games and I know if I lose more than 3 games in a row. I get minus so much mmr points (each games) compare to 1 game or 2 games. Ladder system should increase little mmr for high level players when they win to lower players. So top 100 players will like to play game with real nickname instead of use smurf nickname. Ladder system should reduce minus mmr points when a player lose so much games in a row. If you used to lose so much game in a row, you will know what I mean.

5. mute chat in game

I like to play StarCraft, but I don't like to talk with my opponent. Sometimes, I met barcode players or similar that I can't type ignore their nicknames. It's terrible for me who have to play with bad strategy and trash talk in the same time.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Ollin
Profile Joined December 2017
Poland77 Posts
June 16 2021 08:46 GMT
#2
it's cool to have threads like this. but only if you know that the game can/will be developed more in the future. so far it looks like blizzard has just deserted SC:R so it feels like there's no sense in figuring out things like these.. too bad
iRk-Ollin
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3485 Posts
June 16 2021 16:40 GMT
#3
More maps/veto = longer time
5 vetos for 10maps : 2 players may have no overlap
Artosis rages all the time anyway
Blizzard s choice of map s already terrible, we dont want more of that.
I d rather have faster rotation

All the rest: great points!!
Horang2 fan
advil
Profile Joined April 2019
Hungary10 Posts
June 16 2021 18:00 GMT
#4
MMR points are based on ELO system afaik... and it's proven to be best rating system for 1v1 ranking (chess). Altering it would'nt be any good i think. I'm also sure that the surrender option could be abused somehow at high levels.
IvaNioX2
Profile Joined September 2018
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-16 20:14:52
June 16 2021 20:12 GMT
#5
new ranks.
top 1 = special icon
top 10 = special rank
top 50 = special rank
top 50 to 0.5% S+ rank
0.5% to 1% S rank.


just that because blizzard wont waste time on starcraft
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1916 Posts
June 16 2021 20:31 GMT
#6
A rematch feature for the ladder.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Volka
Profile Joined December 2010
Argentina411 Posts
June 16 2021 20:58 GMT
#7
These are interesting ideas for ShieldBattery!
http://www.starsite.com.ar
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-17 02:08:51
June 17 2021 01:20 GMT
#8
MOTW so one can unveto shit just for + points one week and veto the rest of the time;
mute opponent.
minimum of 5 mmr per win, +0 is just a complete waste of time.
being able to cancel the actual game if the latency is too bad.
some option to avoid vs X race.
top 200 is S+ or Olympic.
top 32 - season finals, winners gets special icon + legend status in the starcraft universe.
function to search ladder by nation and non korean ladder.
ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 17 2021 02:34 GMT
#9
Fuck ActiBlizzard, they had 23 years to figure everything out but they chose to abandon everything.
sunbeams are never made like me...
KingSwammi22
Profile Joined June 2020
United States2 Posts
June 17 2021 03:16 GMT
#10
Just give us the damn ASL map pool for ladder!
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
250 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-17 05:02:44
June 17 2021 05:02 GMT
#11
The maps are a bunch of hyper modern ones that old players like me don't even bother trying to play again because they don't want to relearn a bunch of modern maps that try to be good but aren't.
ZakRoM
Profile Joined December 2018
Costa Rica54 Posts
June 17 2021 13:45 GMT
#12
On June 17 2021 12:16 KingSwammi22 wrote:
Just give us the damn ASL map pool for ladder!


if I'm not mistaken Afreeca are the ones choosing ladder maps.
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
June 18 2021 15:55 GMT
#13
I would just like them not to add anymore Chinese notes telling you to stop playing after 2 hours anymore, and breaking the ladder matching system after every update.
Flash should fear Sacsri
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Patches Events
19:30
Patches' Patch Clash #7
RotterdaM389
Liquipedia
BSL
19:00
RO8 - Day 4
DragOn vs Dewalt
TerrOr vs OyAji
ZZZero.O351
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 389
JuggernautJason114
ProTech92
EmSc Tv 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24149
ZZZero.O 351
Dewaltoss 83
Zeus 65
NaDa 14
League of Legends
JimRising 459
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu406
Other Games
gofns9311
summit1g8496
tarik_tv8035
FrodaN4890
Grubby3915
Liquid`RaSZi2485
shahzam408
KnowMe359
QueenE84
kaitlyn45
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1010
BasetradeTV84
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 22
EmSc2Tv 22
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 43
• musti20045 16
• Reevou 5
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1854
• masondota2415
Other Games
• imaqtpie1091
• WagamamaTV409
• Shiphtur251
• tFFMrPink 17
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 42m
Universe Titan Cup
13h 42m
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
14h 42m
Monday Night Weeklies
18h 42m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 13h
GSL
2 days
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
Replay Cast
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
TBD vs SHIN
TBD vs Rogue
IPSL
5 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W8
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

CSCL: Masked Kings S4
Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.