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oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2935 Posts
June 25 2007 18:24 GMT
#41
On June 26 2007 03:07 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
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On June 26 2007 00:38 oshibori_probe wrote:
nobody is going to mention Draco? he was thought to be a foreigner prodigy, i guess thats getting to group stages?
the whole tl community was behind him until rekrul ragged on him and he gave up and went over to china

btw while pusan and stork have had troubles in individual leagues, both are gods of proleague

pusan just needs a nice island map like 815 to nock some more sense into him


no one gave Draco a snowball's chance in hell of winning an OSL or anything remotely comparable, come on now

it was even debatable that he was the best foreigner when he went over there

i was reffering to getting some lucky few games in a row and making it to GROUPS, not winning anything, but making it to GROUPS
Fuck KeSPA.
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2935 Posts
June 25 2007 18:25 GMT
#42
btw wtf fakesteve, you are flaming everyone
Fuck KeSPA.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 25 2007 18:27 GMT
#43
well, pro sc gaming has a lot of ups and downs for all players. to be called a failure, you pretty much gotta to never make it to a league or something.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13385 Posts
June 25 2007 18:30 GMT
#44
Canata, Terato, Junwi.

Junwi disappoints me the most. He showed so much promise and was so close to winning an OSL and then just dropped off the map.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Totoro
Profile Joined January 2003
France479 Posts
June 25 2007 20:28 GMT
#45
Junwi T_T
=^-^=
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
June 25 2007 20:35 GMT
#46
Even Bobby Fischer lost matches on occasion when he was younger and played professionals.

But he also took home some titles.
sex appeal
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
June 25 2007 21:14 GMT
#47
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-25 21:54:06
June 25 2007 21:53 GMT
#48
crystal[inca] and ogogo
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
June 25 2007 22:00 GMT
#49
On June 26 2007 06:53 Sadist wrote:
crystal[inca] and ogogo
\
Crystal was never a top player I thought?
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-25 22:03:52
June 25 2007 22:03 GMT
#50
On June 26 2007 07:00 DeadVessel wrote:
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On June 26 2007 06:53 Sadist wrote:
crystal[inca] and ogogo
\
Crystal was never a top player I thought?


made it into 2 or 3 consecutive starleagues by whipping ass inthe qualifying tournaments but went like 0-3 twice or 3 times
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 25 2007 22:05 GMT
#51
Any one remember ShinyA and Heaveon[3D.O.M] or something similar! [KoR]The_Red_Rock too!

All those 3 players were amazing online, but when it came to offline, they sucked.

At one time, ShinyA had the best PVT, he was a monster.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 25 2007 22:07 GMT
#52
On June 25 2007 22:40 sonoL wrote:
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On June 25 2007 22:18 GoOdJo wrote:
But that being said i havent heard about that 12 year old kid who is like an apprentice to Pantech or whatever, you know what happened to him?


he just entered middle school.. got his progamer license in elementary
i think its Siz)Sun

He's by.baby now
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
June 25 2007 22:10 GMT
#53
On June 26 2007 07:03 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2007 07:00 DeadVessel wrote:
On June 26 2007 06:53 Sadist wrote:
crystal[inca] and ogogo
\
Crystal was never a top player I thought?


made it into 2 or 3 consecutive starleagues by whipping ass inthe qualifying tournaments but went like 0-3 twice or 3 times

for a while there was a lot of replays coming out for him in JoPD- and Barbara but then he disappeared (he's By.Crystal now I think?)
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
June 25 2007 22:10 GMT
#54
Seems strange noone mentioned Jaedong. That kid had an immense proleague rating last season, was one of the three invited Zergs for the RaceWar SuperFight and was claimed by many to be the Savior #2. Still waiting, though.

And I strongly disagree about Sea being a failed prodigy. Sea is solid as a rock, being very consistent, but just not the top player at the moment. Just give him time, it seems he must go the longer road.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13385 Posts
June 25 2007 22:15 GMT
#55
On June 26 2007 06:53 Sadist wrote:
crystal[inca] and ogogo


Meh I don't know if Crystal ever really showed much promise.

He was like Sinji_NT, Jinsu and Mumyung. Always making Starleagues but proving themselves to just be making up the numbers.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-25 22:17:09
June 25 2007 22:15 GMT
#56
I would like to point out that none of the players mentioned compare to Flash when it comes to starting statistics. Flash is definitely living up to whatever hype he received. He is unbeaten by protoss so far Thats wtf good tvp for such a young player in such big games as a rookie. Can you imagine the storyline of him going all the way to the finals unbeaten vs protoss, against a protoss? It would be great.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
June 25 2007 22:55 GMT
#57
Flash/Reach OSL finals would be badass

it would be like EVER 2004 finals. except not a mirror.

soooo badass.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
ReTrooper
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany526 Posts
June 25 2007 23:12 GMT
#58
Nobody mentioning Yellow? He always seemed to be the strongest player around, yet there was always one player left to knock him out in the end. Eternal second.
De omnibus dubitandum.
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
June 25 2007 23:28 GMT
#59
Yellow was one of the smartest players to play the game but he never won anything big outside of special events.

ChoJJa could've been here if he didn't randomly win a MSL after he was practically forgotten.

Boxer said Oov was the next big thing, and he delivered. Oov said Canata was the next big thing, but Canata failed.

Sea appeared out of nowhere and started his career in a manner similar to Flash and Nada. Hasn't done anything since.

Whatever happened to the guys Boxer chose for his team, other than Oov?

Terato was rookie of the year at some point, but hasn't done anything after that.

kOs was hyped for a year or two by both Boxer and Nada, and then even by mensrea and the SK T1 coach on Xenosky and never did anything.

Of course, some of these are not set in stone, as they've not been around long enough to have really failed. Savior had one brilliant moment in 2004, but then spent a long time being just another stepping stone for Nada.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
June 25 2007 23:58 GMT
#60
Terato was suppose to be really good, thats all I know...
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