I feel "failures" should be judged after the progaming career in question has come to a close. We can look back and see kOs' entire body of work and judge pretty fairly that given the hype surrounding him he clearly fell short. While we might get away with writing off the careers of players like Terato (is he still playing?) and Canata because they just don't seem to be making the next step, it'd be unfair to players like Sea and Stork who are still playing and competing at the highest levels to prematurely label them as "failures". If we look back there have been many examples of late bloomers or "rebirths" in progaming such as Zeus, GoRush, and Kingdom.

Elsi

United Kingdom8173 Posts

June 27 2007 16:28 GMT

#122

Remember [Oops]Lee ? Another "talent" wasted.

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

June 27 2007 17:42 GMT

#123

oops lee was never considered anything special to my recollection

this isn't the "name shitty players" thread

GTR

51531 Posts

June 27 2007 18:19 GMT

#124

Well, Lee was a really good Terran player way back in the day, but he just shitted it up when it came to important games.

Elsi

United Kingdom8173 Posts

June 27 2007 18:25 GMT

#125

On June 28 2007 02:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oops lee was never considered anything special to my recollection

this isn't the "name shitty players" thread

.................. [Oops]Lee qualified for several compertitions, but couldn't pass the final hurdle, he was considered a good player.

Can't believe no one is mentioning Heave[30DOM] The guy was sick on b.net, when it came to offline play he was terrible

Nazgul should post here, he knows quite a bit about players mentioned in this thread.

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

June 27 2007 18:33 GMT

#126

On June 28 2007 03:25 Elsi wrote:

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.................. [Oops]Lee qualified for several compertitions, but couldn't pass the final hurdle, he was considered a good player.

he was one of those shitty fucking stepping-stone players that qualified for shit and got immediately knocked out

no one ever expected anything big out of him, he was by no definition a prodigy

Elsi

United Kingdom8173 Posts

June 27 2007 18:57 GMT

#127

You could add YellOw as a failed prodigy, he hasn't won any major tities. At the end of the day, it all comes down to winning trophies, and sadly, YellOw has won many of the prestige ones.

Have faith in Sea, he's only young, hasn't been on the circut for long, give him time. Same with Canata.

Guybrush

Spain4744 Posts

June 27 2007 18:58 GMT

#128

Hehe "failed" here means not winning a major event apperantly

Pusan was btw mega hyped after his 3rd place finishes in two consecutive OSLs. Dunno about the korean community though.

Lukeeze[zR]

Switzerland6838 Posts

June 27 2007 19:36 GMT

#129

jaedong, anyone ?

Elsi

United Kingdom8173 Posts

June 27 2007 19:39 GMT

#130

YellOw had been the one the bert zergs for years, still he didn't win much

HaXxorIzed

Australia8434 Posts

June 27 2007 22:18 GMT

#131

You know, I think in hindisght it would have been better had we firmly established a definition for "proidgy" and "failure" before we set forth into this topic. Sure, Yellow may not have got to that last step, but his career was one of many good finals placings ... which surely accounts for something.

Make7UpYours

893 Posts

June 28 2007 00:33 GMT

#132

Yellow is NOT a failure.

If we look back at all of Starcraft progaming, is anyone going to leave Yellow out of a list of greatest zerg players? Who'd deserve to be on that list more than Yellow? Off the top of my head I can only think of Savior and July who'd take precedence over him. It isn't just about winning tournaments. If so, Ogogo and MuMyung would be great zerg players too and we know that's not the case.

skindzer

Chile5114 Posts

June 29 2007 02:22 GMT

#133

Maybe Daezang will end like a failed prodigy =/

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

June 29 2007 02:31 GMT

#134

Yellow is a failure though, just less so than some of the others in this thread. No matter how you cut it, he just couldn't win the big one. More importantly he hasn't shown any adaptive capabilities to the changes in the game.

Mumyung I consider to be a failed prodigy.

Jyvblamo

Canada13788 Posts

June 29 2007 02:40 GMT

#135

On June 29 2007 11:31 Judicator wrote:
Yellow is a failure though, just less so than some of the others in this thread. No matter how you cut it, he just couldn't win the big one. More importantly he hasn't shown any adaptive capabilities to the changes in the game.

Mumyung I consider to be a failed prodigy.

If you consider Yellow a failure, what about all the hundreds of other progamers that haven't even gotten to a Starleague final in their entire careers?

MaRiNe23

United States747 Posts

June 29 2007 04:30 GMT

#136

On June 25 2007 22:27 Piano wrote:

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i think sea is 18..

and i think bisu is older than 16/17. not too sure though.

taeyang was seen next to nada at the recent pantech vs. samsung proleague match, dunno what he does for pantech though, the story is he trains with NaDa

Off topic but are u Ever.t)PianO?