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On June 27 2007 12:23 hasuprotoss wrote:
Ok, I read to the third page and then just gave up. Some of you guys are idiots. Do you guys not realize there is something called the Shinhan Proleague. Anyone stating that Sea is a failed prodigy does not realize the dependability he brings to MBC's team, especially after July left. He is their number 1 player, and is outperforming Nada who is something like 12 wins and 11 losses. Sea is something like 13 wins 4 losses. Not too shabby.
Stork has performed decently, I believe he is just in a slight slump right now. Hopefully he will be back.
Canata hasn't lived up to the hype, but he also hasn't fallen flat off of a cliff and died. He can still give some results, but nothing close to what a Sea can give you.
Ummm Stork is in a slump since when? Have you not been updated with the scene or did you just come back from 2006? Stork is on fire right now, taking down MANY powerful terrans and protoss. He is in both OSL and MSL, and is probably going to make it near the finals of this MSL. I HIGHLY doubt Stork is in any kind of slump as of now.
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On June 27 2007 09:39 SuperJongMan wrote:
Man, let's never speak of Garim II again.
That shit hurt so hard when he can't even get out of prelims....
It was very painful for me to witness..
The worst part? The guys that beat him in prelims didn't even make it out....
lol what? he lost 2-1 to 910 who's currently one of the final 8 in MSL
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United States7488 Posts
On June 27 2007 12:56 NuclearAntelope wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2007 09:39 SuperJongMan wrote:
Man, let's never speak of Garim II again.
That shit hurt so hard when he can't even get out of prelims....
It was very painful for me to witness..
The worst part? The guys that beat him in prelims didn't even make it out.... lol what? he lost 2-1 to 910 who's currently one of the final 8 in MSL
No... Garimto lost to Magma.
As evidenced in this thread.
Magma did not make it out of prelims.
910 passed prelims and made it through to Survivor before Garimto even announced his unretirement iirc.
edit: I guess he did lose to 910 in the PSL though, who lost next round to sea.Leta, a new Terran who didn't qualify either.
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Flash is my new hero. Fuck FagJaebisu2pro4me
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There was a thread about how Flash only has two recent losses - one from FagJae, another from The Emperor. Were there any other ones?
+ Show Spoiler +vs FagJae: Flash fails to anticipate FagJae's mass ling rush despite 3hatch and loses within 5 minutes. I'd like to see them play another match or better yet, bo3. My money would go on Flash "I Can Kick FagJae's Ass"
vs. Bocksa: semi-long game, although I felt that Flash should have played much better. I think nerves might have gotten to him; he usually has much more solid gameplay.
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everyone who discounts stork as a "failed prodigy" i think is writing him off too early. on his first pass around, he was only what, 16? 17? he still has a lot of time to prove himself, unlike say, terato, who was kicked off his progaming team.
to be a failed prodigy you have to fail forever, sea and stork may just be late bloomers.
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On June 27 2007 13:32 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2007 12:56 NuclearAntelope wrote:On June 27 2007 09:39 SuperJongMan wrote:
Man, let's never speak of Garim II again.
That shit hurt so hard when he can't even get out of prelims....
It was very painful for me to witness..
The worst part? The guys that beat him in prelims didn't even make it out.... lol what? he lost 2-1 to 910 who's currently one of the final 8 in MSL No... Garimto lost to Magma. As evidenced in this thread.Magma did not make it out of prelims. 910 passed prelims and made it through to Survivor before Garimto even announced his unretirement iirc. edit: I guess he did lose to 910 in the PSL though, who lost next round to sea.Leta, a new Terran who didn't qualify either.
well 910 didn't make it out of that PSL, but he was still a formidable opponent and there's no shame in a rusty garimto losing to him
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On June 27 2007 12:55 Duffybeer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2007 12:23 hasuprotoss wrote:
Ok, I read to the third page and then just gave up. Some of you guys are idiots. Do you guys not realize there is something called the Shinhan Proleague. Anyone stating that Sea is a failed prodigy does not realize the dependability he brings to MBC's team, especially after July left. He is their number 1 player, and is outperforming Nada who is something like 12 wins and 11 losses. Sea is something like 13 wins 4 losses. Not too shabby.
Stork has performed decently, I believe he is just in a slight slump right now. Hopefully he will be back.
Canata hasn't lived up to the hype, but he also hasn't fallen flat off of a cliff and died. He can still give some results, but nothing close to what a Sea can give you. Ummm Stork is in a slump since when? Have you not been updated with the scene or did you just come back from 2006? Stork is on fire right now, taking down MANY powerful terrans and protoss. He is in both OSL and MSL, and is probably going to make it near the finals of this MSL. I HIGHLY doubt Stork is in any kind of slump as of now.
Well according to everyone else he is a failed prodigy, I have no idea why.
And to the people saying Terato, you are absolutely correct.
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On June 27 2007 14:34 Guybrush wrote:
Garimtwo or Garimtoe?
Garimtoe
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Well Boxer and Nada weren't the only ones hyping kOs at the time.
His TvP was insanely good.
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On June 27 2007 17:15 hasuprotoss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2007 12:55 Duffybeer wrote:On June 27 2007 12:23 hasuprotoss wrote:
Ok, I read to the third page and then just gave up. Some of you guys are idiots. Do you guys not realize there is something called the Shinhan Proleague. Anyone stating that Sea is a failed prodigy does not realize the dependability he brings to MBC's team, especially after July left. He is their number 1 player, and is outperforming Nada who is something like 12 wins and 11 losses. Sea is something like 13 wins 4 losses. Not too shabby.
Stork has performed decently, I believe he is just in a slight slump right now. Hopefully he will be back.
Canata hasn't lived up to the hype, but he also hasn't fallen flat off of a cliff and died. He can still give some results, but nothing close to what a Sea can give you. Ummm Stork is in a slump since when? Have you not been updated with the scene or did you just come back from 2006? Stork is on fire right now, taking down MANY powerful terrans and protoss. He is in both OSL and MSL, and is probably going to make it near the finals of this MSL. I HIGHLY doubt Stork is in any kind of slump as of now. Well according to everyone else he is a failed prodigy, I have no idea why. And to the people saying Terato, you are absolutely correct.
Wasn't terato the "architect"
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On June 27 2007 18:41 himurakenshin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2007 17:15 hasuprotoss wrote:On June 27 2007 12:55 Duffybeer wrote:On June 27 2007 12:23 hasuprotoss wrote:
Ok, I read to the third page and then just gave up. Some of you guys are idiots. Do you guys not realize there is something called the Shinhan Proleague. Anyone stating that Sea is a failed prodigy does not realize the dependability he brings to MBC's team, especially after July left. He is their number 1 player, and is outperforming Nada who is something like 12 wins and 11 losses. Sea is something like 13 wins 4 losses. Not too shabby.
Stork has performed decently, I believe he is just in a slight slump right now. Hopefully he will be back.
Canata hasn't lived up to the hype, but he also hasn't fallen flat off of a cliff and died. He can still give some results, but nothing close to what a Sea can give you. Ummm Stork is in a slump since when? Have you not been updated with the scene or did you just come back from 2006? Stork is on fire right now, taking down MANY powerful terrans and protoss. He is in both OSL and MSL, and is probably going to make it near the finals of this MSL. I HIGHLY doubt Stork is in any kind of slump as of now. Well according to everyone else he is a failed prodigy, I have no idea why. And to the people saying Terato, you are absolutely correct. Wasn't terato the "architect"
yea but that could still mean he's a failed prodigy right
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On June 27 2007 12:55 Duffybeer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2007 12:23 hasuprotoss wrote:
Ok, I read to the third page and then just gave up. Some of you guys are idiots. Do you guys not realize there is something called the Shinhan Proleague. Anyone stating that Sea is a failed prodigy does not realize the dependability he brings to MBC's team, especially after July left. He is their number 1 player, and is outperforming Nada who is something like 12 wins and 11 losses. Sea is something like 13 wins 4 losses. Not too shabby.
Stork has performed decently, I believe he is just in a slight slump right now. Hopefully he will be back.
Canata hasn't lived up to the hype, but he also hasn't fallen flat off of a cliff and died. He can still give some results, but nothing close to what a Sea can give you. Ummm Stork is in a slump since when? Have you not been updated with the scene or did you just come back from 2006? Stork is on fire right now, taking down MANY powerful terrans and protoss. He is in both OSL and MSL, and is probably going to make it near the finals of this MSL. I HIGHLY doubt Stork is in any kind of slump as of now.
yeah really, this is the best stork has ever performed in his entire career
slump my ass hahahah
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Osaka27156 Posts
I would agree with kos and to a lesser extent terato. Another name I would put out is Gundam and shinyA
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On June 27 2007 22:04 Manifesto7 wrote:
I would agree with kos and to a lesser extent terato. Another name I would put out is Gundam and shinyA
gundam made it to a final once and lost to yellow
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For really old players, [GsP]Gyuntae and Chunsang (aka joypop[zodiac]) were pretty good players online but never made the transition to offline play. Breeze[AKUTA] might be in that category as well. Junitoss was fairly young when he made his debut in the 4th KPGA tour, but I think his youth was all that really distinguished him. I wouldn't really call any of those players prodigies, but definitely they failed expectations put on them (except maybe Junitoss because he didn't have much, if at all).
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Well, Junitoss was known to have nervousness syndrome (i.e fuck up on televised games). Gyuntae and Breeze were great online players, but never seemed to do well in offline qualifiers (except Breeze, he made a MSL) while Joypop I can't really comment on, but word says he was going to be a big terran.
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Osaka27156 Posts
On June 27 2007 22:17 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2007 22:04 Manifesto7 wrote:
I would agree with kos and to a lesser extent terato. Another name I would put out is Gundam and shinyA gundam made it to a final once and lost to yellow
I know, and then dissapeared due to various matters. I would say considering his potential, he is a failed prodigy.
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I think we need to more closely define prodigy.
according to the dictionary, it is:
1. a person, esp. a child or young person, having extraordinary talent or ability: a musical prodigy.
So I think players like gundam, who were already older than average progamer age when they started to rise in progaming, don't count as a prodigy.
Sea definitely was and still is a prodigy and I would argue that he is far from "failed". But that depends on your defintion of "failed".
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