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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
He was though of as the next big T1 Terran and he has not shown the results that we expect of one. As the next big T1 Terran he would have to follow the footsteps of Boxer, Oov, and even Midas. Two of those names were the most dominant players in their era and Midas was perhaps the only Terran that was shown capable of rivaling sAviOr in his early stages of dominance. Canata is not weak by any means but he has not shown that he can be called the T1 Terran ace which I just made up right now. | ||
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pOOwarrior-
United States518 Posts
After all, Flash probably just barely got into KTF and then got to where he is now in the OSL. I guess we'll have to wait for that 12 year old By.Baby (By.Sun?) guy to post some results and see what we get out of that. | ||
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FatRine
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VioleTAK
4339 Posts
On June 25 2007 22:40 sonoL wrote: he just entered middle school.. got his progamer license in elementary i think its Siz)Sun Yeah Siz)Sun, his real name is TaeYang Jun, birth date: 21/01/1994, he won the "Elite-School League" :-) | ||
KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
On June 26 2007 00:05 FatRine wrote: sea is damn amazing, i'd say canata is something of a failed prodigy perhaps However Canata has been one of the key players this season for SKT1 in proleague. His record is pretty decent. Its hard to call him a failed prodigy when no one had seen him much in televised matches until about a year ago. Though i guess its down to how one interprets failed and prodigy. Sea totally doesnt count to me, the dude is still qualifying for leagues and has one of the biggest pl records and is tied for most wins. Maybe he didnt end up storming OSL and MSL but so few ever have, with so many pl games being played i think its only a matter of time before a good pl record carries as much weight as a top 8/4 finish in osl/msl. | ||
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Piano
Korea (South)401 Posts
On June 25 2007 22:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Sea is 16 right now, Bisu was 17 when he won MSL and probably still is oops, thanks for the correction ^^ | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
the whole tl community was behind him until rekrul ragged on him and he gave up and went over to china btw while pusan and stork have had troubles in individual leagues, both are gods of proleague pusan just needs a nice island map like 815 to nock some more sense into him | ||
GTR
51563 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 25 2007 23:02 HaXxorIzed wrote: Daezang left for the army didn't he?. Ahhh please tell me its not true!! T.T If he is, is he going to join Ace? when did he go? | ||
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GTR
51563 Posts
Junior (Na Gyung Bo) from SouL. He was IMO the original ZvT killer (Junwi was the 2nd). He managed to knock Boxer out of the NATE OSL. Too bad he was in some contract disputes and dissapeared from the pro scene (rumoured he was going to SKT after he left Soul). ArtOfTerran (Kim Dong Jin) who used to be in Hexatron (now eSTRO), I'm sure someone expert in Daniel Lee's teams like Leg or Rek can fill me in, he was Hexatron's star Terran player. He had a pretty wicked TvZ, and infact he made it to one of the early MSL's if my memory serves me correctly. Unfortunately he couldn't develop his other match-ups and thus lagged behind and dissapeared quickly . Max (Shin Jung Min) was said up to be the next big Zerg, qualifying in 2 OSL's. Having good training partners in KOR (OGN Sparkyz now), he managed to make these OSL's. Unfortunately, he never made it past the group stages, and I suppose KOR lost faith in his talent, so they shipped him off to Hanbit. Now he's the best Teamplay player currently in this season's proleague currently going on. As much as I don't want to say this, Silent_Control (Na Do Hyun) was a great Terran player, despite critics criticising (thats what they do, right?) him that he cheesed his way to the semi finals of the NHN Starleague, eventually getting beaten by Jeon Tae Kyu-chicken (Zeus). He did though managed to own JJu in superb fashion in the 3/4 place matches. Next Starleague (Gilette), he also made the Semi-Finals, and out of luck, lost to Mantoss (though it was kind of unlucky, seeing that zealot bomb, OMG). He did though, prove his critics wrong by going through this starleague with no cheese or minimum cheese at all. After that, he just drowned down to be a washed up progamer. That's all I can think of atm :> | ||
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GTR
51563 Posts
On June 26 2007 00:07 VioleTAK wrote: Yeah Siz)Sun, his real name is TaeYang Jun, birth date: 21/01/1994, he won the "Elite-School League" :-) Yes, but seeing his play in the Star Brain games, I think I nearly cried seeing how terrible he played. | ||
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Piano
Korea (South)401 Posts
On June 26 2007 00:54 Plexa wrote: Ahhh please tell me its not true!! T.T If he is, is he going to join Ace? when did he go? Daezang will be joining Airforce Ace, along with Oversky. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
Fofy[gm] was the player I thought about in my post about mind-control being used in progames. Rock killed him with tanks & arbiters on Luna in a game that lasted more than an hour. Anyway fofy was touted as a new prodigy, but he never reached a SL. Sea however is the only terran except OOv in his earlier days that makes me go "holy shit he's so fucking good" when I see him play. Imo he's one of the best players and even though he hasnt reached semis in the SLs he has carried mbc in proleague. Give him more than a year before you call him "failed". Doesnt handle pressure ? M&M Scvs against Boxer in the round 2 PL finals on 815 ? Winning the final decider in the PL grand final against GoRush ? Along with countless other ace matches. Not only his mechanics are terrific, but his sense is also magnificent. About Flash though. What excites me with Flash apart from his similar mechanics isnt his game sense, but his timing. As for comparing Sea to Oov(amazing macroers&good sense) and Flash to Nada Ive had the thought several times, and the way Flash now burst into the scene with a terrific timingµ/macro oriented TvP does indeed remind me of the first sight of Nada back in 2002. However there is a long way to go for both Sea and Flash to justify it ( look at Casy for example who turned out to be a Neo-Sync instead of a Neo Emperor  ). If I were to pick two youngsters who look the most like the two of the three terran legends Id pick these two though. | ||
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dementus
Singapore1151 Posts
he shows sparks of brilliance once in a while, (that fake expo move in shinhan 3 vs july we've all come to love) but his tvp (oh, those har har casy tvp autovote liquibet jokes), and his somewhat inconsistent form will keep him from living up to that initial hype. edit: as for canata, i'd like to wait a bit longer before passing judgement. t1 has churned out oov, and midas with boxer at its helm, that may explain the overrated hype over canata's abilities. he performs quite well in the proleague when his teammates are around him, but he seems to have suspect nerves in starleagues. perhaps with time and experience, he might be able to play to his supposed full potential. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On June 25 2007 22:49 Plexa wrote: PuSan and StorK are definatly NOT failed prodigies... both have a series of results (albiet not firsts) which are quite formidable. And i think both are on the top 30 pros of all time? iirc ok first of all Stork has NEVER capitalized his ID like that so what the fuck are you doing there second, if you think stork doesn't qualify as a 'failed prodigy' then you really havent followed his career. he's doing all right now but half a year ago he was the best example of this | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On June 26 2007 00:56 GTR-2-Go wrote: Anyway, not really prodigies, but I'd like to name a few sorta's. Junior (Na Gyung Bo) from SouL. He was IMO the original ZvT killer (Junwi was the 2nd). He managed to knock Boxer out of the NATE OSL. Too bad he was in some contract disputes and dissapeared from the pro scene (rumoured he was going to SKT after he left Soul). ArtOfTerran (Kim Dong Jin) who used to be in Hexatron (now eSTRO), I'm sure someone expert in Daniel Lee's teams like Leg or Rek can fill me in, he was Hexatron's star Terran player. He had a pretty wicked TvZ, and infact he made it to one of the early MSL's if my memory serves me correctly. Unfortunately he couldn't develop his other match-ups and thus lagged behind and dissapeared quickly . Max (Shin Jung Min) was said up to be the next big Zerg, qualifying in 2 OSL's. Having good training partners in KOR (OGN Sparkyz now), he managed to make these OSL's. Unfortunately, he never made it past the group stages, and I suppose KOR lost faith in his talent, so they shipped him off to Hanbit. Now he's the best Teamplay player currently in this season's proleague currently going on. As much as I don't want to say this, Silent_Control (Na Do Hyun) was a great Terran player, despite critics criticising (thats what they do, right?) him that he cheesed his way to the semi finals of the NHN Starleague, eventually getting beaten by Jeon Tae Kyu-chicken (Zeus). He did though managed to own JJu in superb fashion in the 3/4 place matches. Next Starleague (Gilette), he also made the Semi-Finals, and out of luck, lost to Mantoss (though it was kind of unlucky, seeing that zealot bomb, OMG). He did though, prove his critics wrong by going through this starleague with no cheese or minimum cheese at all. After that, he just drowned down to be a washed up progamer. That's all I can think of atm :> Hmm.... Junior was a little nuts. Hard to classify cuz I don't remember him as well as I should. ArtOfTerran yeah you hit the nail on the head there. Max was always a third-rate zerg, he bumbled around in ODT and shit for a long time before making OSL, and he never got anywhere. Silent_Control was fucking insane in Gillette OSL. He went 5 super close games with Reach, who had the best PvT at the time, and then went 5 super close games with iloveoov, the best player on earth at the time. He was really never the same player after those two series.. the faint against GoRush in the round of 8, then two super close matches against incredibly strong opponents.. it just seemed to wreck the guy. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On June 26 2007 00:38 oshibori_probe wrote: nobody is going to mention Draco? he was thought to be a foreigner prodigy, i guess thats getting to group stages? the whole tl community was behind him until rekrul ragged on him and he gave up and went over to china btw while pusan and stork have had troubles in individual leagues, both are gods of proleague pusan just needs a nice island map like 815 to nock some more sense into him no one gave Draco a snowball's chance in hell of winning an OSL or anything remotely comparable, come on now it was even debatable that he was the best foreigner when he went over there | ||
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GTR
51563 Posts
On June 26 2007 01:28 Guybrush wrote: Fofy[gm] was the player I thought about in my post about mind-control being used in progames. Rock killed him with tanks & arbiters on Luna in a game that lasted more than an hour. Anyway fofy was touted as a new prodigy, but he never reached a SL. I remember fOfy during the PmanG Proleague while he was playing for Hanbit. He was 16 at the time I think, and had practice partners of the like of Reach, Sync etc. After that Proleague though, his career just fell down the drain. | ||
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