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Vultures can slip through diagonally placed pylons

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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 08:37:02
January 23 2020 03:54 GMT
#1


Here is a quick 15 second video.

You don't need mines, you don't need workers to glitch it through, you don't even need to spam right click! You just need a single vulture lol

Pylons have to be diagonally spaced so it looks like a huge gap, but it's still a wall (for the vulture)

Instructions:
1) Send your vulture in between the pylon gap so that it looks like it's already on the other side.
2) Spam H and S (hold and stop)
3) Your vulture is on the other side. It won't move or anything, it's just magically on the other side.


Or just spam right click:

[image loading]


In conclusion:
Terran players: Have fun killing those probes
Protoss players: Make better walls noobs
Zerg players: Switch race.

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MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
January 23 2020 04:18 GMT
#2
OMG the amount of time I've wasted spamming mines =='
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
January 23 2020 04:19 GMT
#3
a single stop is enough to make it go through.
but depending on wall location and exact movement of the vulture, it is easier or way harder to do.
you didnt even cage a vulture in 4 diagonal pylon, selected vulture and clicked right click outside of the cage
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
January 23 2020 04:25 GMT
#4
On January 23 2020 13:19 Bakuryu wrote:
a single stop is enough to make it go through.
but depending on wall location and exact movement of the vulture, it is easier or way harder to do.
you didnt even cage a vulture in 4 diagonal pylon, selected vulture and clicked right click outside of the cage


omfg you are right, just go up to the pylons and press S and it's like the pylon wall isn't even there. So much faster!!
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
January 23 2020 04:30 GMT
#5
On January 23 2020 13:18 MinixTheNerd wrote:
OMG the amount of time I've wasted spamming mines =='


you still need mines to jump over non-diagonally placed pylons
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Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 05:11:50
January 23 2020 04:53 GMT
#6
this works vs any 31x31 pixel gap, like turret-ebay (turret top left, ebay bottom right) or ebay-rax (ebay bottom left, rax top right) or stargate-gateway (stargate top left, gateway bottom right)
(Wiki)List of Unit and Building Sizes

as for the reasons why this is working, i might not remember it 100% correctly....
1. for pathfinding, vulture is a 32x32 unit, so if you right click past wall, vulture cant cross it.
but in reality, vulture is a slightly smaller rectangle, based around which way it is facing.
2. if you press stop right before your right click location, a vulture decelerates slower than usual, making it travel further than your right click location. this extra traveling is also not bound by pathfinding, only by wall detection.

and by combining the 2 you can get through 31x31 pixel gaps

Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
January 23 2020 05:19 GMT
#7
its insane to me that 22 years later, tech like this is still being discovered. that's awesome
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Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 05:26:58
January 23 2020 05:25 GMT
#8
this was discovered somewhere around 2012-2014 i think. not fully sure, atleast before remastered.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 23 2020 06:29 GMT
#9
Interesting, but I doubt it will make a huge impact because iagonal pylon wall are rarely seen,.
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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
January 23 2020 06:46 GMT
#10
haha bakuryu told me about this when he was in korea
i've been too lazy to really try it though he helped me. gotta practice this srsly smh
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
January 23 2020 08:35 GMT
#11
So Lazersnipe found out that you don't even need S, just spam right click away and you're good to go:

[image loading]
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
January 23 2020 08:43 GMT
#12
TERRRAAAAANNN
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
January 23 2020 11:31 GMT
#13
This has been discussed thoroughly at another place (general discussion?) already. It has to do with the gradual deceleration behaviour of hovering units, so you can do it with Archons and Dark Archons too. Pretty sure I posted a test map at the time, will check this evening.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
January 23 2020 11:47 GMT
#14
I've known about this for ages but I thought you had to run up and then press hold or stop to glide through things. had NO idea you could spam right click for it. That's crazy!
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
January 23 2020 13:51 GMT
#15
On January 23 2020 14:19 Psychonian wrote:
its insane to me that 22 years later, tech like this is still being discovered. that's awesome


Truly amazing
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10261 Posts
January 23 2020 15:16 GMT
#16
On January 23 2020 17:43 Ziggy wrote:
TERRRAAAAANNN

You can also do it with Archons
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StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 16:20:41
January 23 2020 16:20 GMT
#17
You cannot do it with the typical walling Zerg buildings (hatchery, den, evo, colony) because none of their pairs have >= 31 spacing. Thank god.

EDIT: except for hatchery / hatchery, but who diagonally places hatcheries
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MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-23 16:28:34
January 23 2020 16:26 GMT
#18
This to be fucking bullshit why don't all the people who fucking discover these just fuck off and leave people in peace - god damnit. How much is this? Fucking???? Is anyone to realize how impactful this will be? More money instantly at wall, yes it will be to fucking matters. This shit should be deleted to prevent spread of this fucking info fucking building my wall already is like play Jenga and I do not think I should play Jenga combined with Russia Roulette. You are fucking this serious? What make you think that when P play, that 100 more mineral, in some case 200, spent right then and there because you need the wall fucking NOW is not a big deal? You are better to just plug the wall with a forge or so, but now you upgrade are vulnerable and not only this you are one less pylon away from max, so fucking stupid..... Can't wait to see this on ladder next fucking day, or better yet I will just make extra safe wall and people wonder why I am playing like an idiot. No sir it is you who are play like fucking idiot.

edit: spelling

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Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
January 23 2020 16:34 GMT
#19
Spelling is your least problem, mate @_@
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
January 23 2020 16:46 GMT
#20
On January 24 2020 01:26 MisterBoba wrote:
This to be fucking bullshit why don't all the people who fucking discover these just fuck off and leave people in peace - god damnit. How much is this? Fucking???? Is anyone to realize how impactful this will be? More money instantly at wall, yes it will be to fucking matters. This shit should be deleted to prevent spread of this fucking info fucking building my wall already is like play Jenga and I do not think I should play Jenga combined with Russia Roulette. You are fucking this serious? What make you think that when P play, that 100 more mineral, in some case 200, spent right then and there because you need the wall fucking NOW is not a big deal? You are better to just plug the wall with a forge or so, but now you upgrade are vulnerable and not only this you are one less pylon away from max, so fucking stupid..... Can't wait to see this on ladder next fucking day, or better yet I will just make extra safe wall and people wonder why I am playing like an idiot. No sir it is you who are play like fucking idiot.

edit: spelling


😂😂😂

Its been known for a while now. It will also make no difference in 99/100 situations. But thanks for the lulz
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