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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
December 09 2019 03:58 GMT
#81
On December 09 2019 02:50 Cruiser0929 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2019 16:08 f10eqq wrote:
I think most people agree that Soma (박상현) is the #1 amateur player right now and another zerg, Zelot (서문지훈), is maybe #2. Who do koreans consider to be the best amateur Protoss and Terran players in korea?


Zerg = #1 Soma (박상현) , #2 Zelot (서문지훈) , #3 Pitbullterrier (김대한)
Protoss = #1 Mighty (이광용)
Terran = #1 Shinee (샤이니) , #2 Bishop (정민기) , #3 Byul (강태완)

The best as an amateur.


I suppose I'm underrated for the list.

Here is my perspective of top best amateurs.

Zerg: Soma, yoon, ZeLoT
Terran: Shinee, others are hard to put in a list due to the same level
Protoss: KEH, Mighty(aka vmqkf), [FOX]Fresh
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 04:46:50
December 09 2019 04:37 GMT
#82
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 04:45:53
December 09 2019 04:45 GMT
#83

Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 04:47:19
December 09 2019 04:46 GMT
#84
On December 09 2019 12:58 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2019 02:50 Cruiser0929 wrote:
On December 08 2019 16:08 f10eqq wrote:
I think most people agree that Soma (박상현) is the #1 amateur player right now and another zerg, Zelot (서문지훈), is maybe #2. Who do koreans consider to be the best amateur Protoss and Terran players in korea?


Zerg = #1 Soma (박상현) , #2 Zelot (서문지훈) , #3 Pitbullterrier (김대한)
Protoss = #1 Mighty (이광용)
Terran = #1 Shinee (샤이니) , #2 Bishop (정민기) , #3 Byul (강태완)

The best as an amateur.


I suppose I'm underrated for the list.

Here is my perspective of top best amateurs.

Zerg: Soma, yoon, ZeLoT
Terran: Shinee, others are hard to put in a list due to the same level
Protoss: KEH, Mighty(aka vmqkf), [FOX]Fresh



"Yoon" had an early exit from the amateur competition organized by "Bisu," losing to "Song Jung-woo."

But "Pitbulterrier" won by capturing "ssinz," "No Ji-ho" and "Yoon Soo-woong."

"Yoon" is not in the upper rank of "Zelot."

He has shown too little compared to "Zelot"

Terran totally agrees with you.

But if I were to rank it,

Shinee, Bishop, and Byul.

In fact, Shinee and the other two have wide gaps.

Protoss's "KEH" shows the wrong personality and is being slaughtered on Starcraft 1.

On the other hand, "Mighty" has grown in a great way, showing a good side in the "Starcraft end-of-life war"

"KEH" is only playing king in the dark.
That's why I decided that 'Mighty' is a better player.
TheGloob
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
97 Posts
December 09 2019 06:10 GMT
#85
thanks answering these, cruiser~

i'm living in busan, but i know most events happen in seoul. other than going to seoul, how can i participate or get more into the korean starcraft community while i'm in korea?
WCG2003
Profile Joined November 2019
7 Posts
December 09 2019 06:54 GMT
#86
What does Savior/Julyzerg do nowadays?
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
December 09 2019 08:45 GMT
#87
On December 09 2019 15:54 WCG2003 wrote:
What does Savior/Julyzerg do nowadays?



"July" knows to be living a normal life after retirement.
I don't want to comment on another.
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
December 09 2019 08:47 GMT
#88
On December 09 2019 15:10 TheGloob wrote:
thanks answering these, cruiser~

i'm living in busan, but i know most events happen in seoul. other than going to seoul, how can i participate or get more into the korean starcraft community while i'm in korea?


I don't think there's anything I can do in Busan right now.

Except to be the only one to participate in the ASL Busan.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
December 09 2019 09:29 GMT
#89
hi.
i find really amazing that Soma is able to compete with the best progamers.why do u think other semipros didnt really catch the actual progamers?
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 09:34:12
December 09 2019 09:33 GMT
#90
Hi, and thank you for taking the time to answer our questions ^.^

On December 09 2019 12:35 Cruiser0929 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2019 11:11 Kertorak wrote:
Which game do "new" players prefer, sc2 or bw? Young? I am not interested in other games information.

How do you describe "the best" player? (like flash) Gosu not (it's general for all very good player), page 1 word (i dont want to name it) not.

Are you allowed to look into flash's eyes, when he would see it? Ok let me explain, I know it's bold to look at someone too long in korea, especially someone of higher status, age, perhaps gender. I am seeing flash as "higher status".



Which game do "new" players prefer, sc2 or bw? Young? I am not interested in other games information.

= Unfortunately, young Korean gamers are not interested in StarCraft 1 and StarCraft 2.

StarCraft 2 is not famous and StaCraft 1 is the entry barrier is too high.

How do you describe "the best" player? (like flash) Gosu not (it's general for all very good player), page 1 word (i dont want to name it) not.

= Korean StarCraft fans have the words "Flsah" and "Bisu." It's "GOD."


"Unfortunately, young Korean gamers are not interested in StarCraft 1 and StarCraft 2."

Yeah the entry barrier to StarCraft 1 is a problem for everyone I believe. It's very difficult to introduce it to someone who isn't already familiar with it or some RTS games at least.

"Korean StarCraft fans have the words "Flsah" and "Bisu." It's "GOD."

That's interesting, I didn't know that. I thought only Flash had the title of "GOD".
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 09:48:15
December 09 2019 09:47 GMT
#91
Hes trying to say that they are like GOD, all powerful and unreachable.
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mmhmm
Profile Joined November 2019
22 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 10:02:12
December 09 2019 09:49 GMT
#92
What kind of personality do current top players have (Flash, Bisu, Zero, Light, Soma, Rain, Stork, forGG, Mini, Mind, ....and others). For example, who whines or complains a lot? Who brags the most? Who is funny? Who is quiet? Who gets angry easily? Who has good manner / bad manner?

I'm trying to figure out who I should cheer for. I always like the Zerg in ZvT and especially ZvP. But otherwise it can be hard to know who the "good guy" is.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 10:22:14
December 09 2019 10:19 GMT
#93
On December 09 2019 18:49 mmhmm wrote:
What kind of personality do current top players have (Flash, Bisu, Zero, Light, Soma, Rain, Stork, forGG, Mini, Mind, ....and others). For example, who whines or complains a lot? Who brags the most? Who is funny? Who is quiet? Who gets angry easily? Who has good manner / bad manner?

I'm trying to figure out who I should cheer for. I always like the Zerg in ZvT and especially ZvP. But otherwise it can be hard to know who the "good guy" is.


I wish there were heels in starcraft but please do give this video a watch to understand Flash's personality a bit

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Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
December 09 2019 12:02 GMT
#94
On December 09 2019 18:29 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
hi.
i find really amazing that Soma is able to compete with the best progamers.why do u think other semipros didnt really catch the actual progamers?



"Soma" is different even in other amateurs.

He has had a close relationship with professional gamers since long ago.

That's why there were so many fans. There were many opportunities to play games with many high-class professional gamers.

Other amateurs don't have many such opportunities.
Cruiser0929
Profile Joined December 2019
516 Posts
December 09 2019 12:08 GMT
#95
On December 09 2019 18:33 JieXian wrote:
Hi, and thank you for taking the time to answer our questions ^.^

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2019 12:35 Cruiser0929 wrote:
On December 09 2019 11:11 Kertorak wrote:
Which game do "new" players prefer, sc2 or bw? Young? I am not interested in other games information.

How do you describe "the best" player? (like flash) Gosu not (it's general for all very good player), page 1 word (i dont want to name it) not.

Are you allowed to look into flash's eyes, when he would see it? Ok let me explain, I know it's bold to look at someone too long in korea, especially someone of higher status, age, perhaps gender. I am seeing flash as "higher status".



Which game do "new" players prefer, sc2 or bw? Young? I am not interested in other games information.

= Unfortunately, young Korean gamers are not interested in StarCraft 1 and StarCraft 2.

StarCraft 2 is not famous and StaCraft 1 is the entry barrier is too high.

How do you describe "the best" player? (like flash) Gosu not (it's general for all very good player), page 1 word (i dont want to name it) not.

= Korean StarCraft fans have the words "Flsah" and "Bisu." It's "GOD."


"Unfortunately, young Korean gamers are not interested in StarCraft 1 and StarCraft 2."

Yeah the entry barrier to StarCraft 1 is a problem for everyone I believe. It's very difficult to introduce it to someone who isn't already familiar with it or some RTS games at least.

"Korean StarCraft fans have the words "Flsah" and "Bisu." It's "GOD."

That's interesting, I didn't know that. I thought only Flash had the title of "GOD".


Gamers have many nicknames.

"Shine" is called a typhoon.
"Jaedong" is nicknamed a tyrant.
"Zero" is nicknamed Queen.
"Stork" is nicknamed Commander-in-Chief.
"Best" is nicknamed a monster.
"Flash" is the final weapon.
"Bisu" is nicknamed a revolutionary.

But among them, "Flash" and "Bisu" are given the title "God."
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
December 09 2019 12:15 GMT
#96
do koreans in general not know what Turn Rate is for?

I play in the morning and it's mostly vs koreans, the game settles at TR20 which is fine but I still get insulted almost every single game, I'm surprised it happens so often considering the game is perfectly playable most of the time
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
December 09 2019 12:54 GMT
#97
On December 09 2019 21:15 LG)Sabbath wrote:
do koreans in general not know what Turn Rate is for?

I play in the morning and it's mostly vs koreans, the game settles at TR20 which is fine but I still get insulted almost every single game, I'm surprised it happens so often considering the game is perfectly playable most of the time

you are proly playing TR20 high or extra . TR20 = TR14 and TR20 extra = TR10
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 14:11:40
December 09 2019 14:11 GMT
#98
Hello,

1. What is something interesting about the StarCraft 1 Korean scene that you think foreigners might not know about?

2. You seem interested by foreigners (or maybe you are doing this just to practice english ;D) do you watch foreigners players streams and events?

3. What happened to Free (윤용태)?

Thank you for doing this!
Calendaraka Foxhan
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
December 09 2019 14:25 GMT
#99
On December 09 2019 21:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2019 21:15 LG)Sabbath wrote:
do koreans in general not know what Turn Rate is for?

I play in the morning and it's mostly vs koreans, the game settles at TR20 which is fine but I still get insulted almost every single game, I'm surprised it happens so often considering the game is perfectly playable most of the time

you are proly playing TR20 high or extra . TR20 = TR14 and TR20 extra = TR10


This is wrong.

Source, posted by SC Developer:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/turn-rates-matchmaking-and-you/519

TR 20 = 150

TR 20 High = 200, which is roughly TR16

TR 20 Extra = 250, which is TR12
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 15:03:57
December 09 2019 15:02 GMT
#100
On December 09 2019 23:25 razorsuKe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2019 21:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On December 09 2019 21:15 LG)Sabbath wrote:
do koreans in general not know what Turn Rate is for?

I play in the morning and it's mostly vs koreans, the game settles at TR20 which is fine but I still get insulted almost every single game, I'm surprised it happens so often considering the game is perfectly playable most of the time

you are proly playing TR20 high or extra . TR20 = TR14 and TR20 extra = TR10


This is wrong.

Source, posted by SC Developer:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/turn-rates-matchmaking-and-you/519

TR 20 = 150

TR 20 High = 200, which is roughly TR16

TR 20 Extra = 250, which is TR12


i never had the impression TR20 HIGH was TR16. and anyone that play the game often will tell you the same.as a zerg player i really can detect it very well.TR12 TR10 proly no big difference. TR14 is already unfortunate so anything below that is bad.
TR Low High Extra
24 125 167 208
20 150 200 250
16 188 250 313
14 214 286 357

i think since the ping is higher than 200 it fits more TR14

and DTR doesnt work properly tbh. i have countless games where he put a worse TR than it should be and others put a better TR than it should be.
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