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On January 06 2020 14:22 Cruiser0929 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2020 04:33 StarStruck wrote:On January 05 2020 11:27 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 05 2020 01:49 SC-Shield wrote:
Why did KeSPA abandon SC and SC2? SC2 was a poor performer. It was not a popular game in Korea. A lot has happened to SC1. The biggest incident was the match fixing scandal involving gamers. As a result, many companies disbanded their SC1 professional game teams and were not sponsors of the competition. Naturally, the SC1 professional league is gone. Call it for what it is too. You left Blizzard because they forced their hand with the 'rights.' We'd like it if you cast more SC2. -_- Does SC2 have a sponsor game?
There's a couple major tiers/mid tier tournaments like IEM/Dreamhack and Homestory Cup; the premier stuff is still WCS/GSL
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On January 07 2020 12:39 DjKniteX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2020 14:22 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 06 2020 04:33 StarStruck wrote:On January 05 2020 11:27 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 05 2020 01:49 SC-Shield wrote:
Why did KeSPA abandon SC and SC2? SC2 was a poor performer. It was not a popular game in Korea. A lot has happened to SC1. The biggest incident was the match fixing scandal involving gamers. As a result, many companies disbanded their SC1 professional game teams and were not sponsors of the competition. Naturally, the SC1 professional league is gone. Call it for what it is too. You left Blizzard because they forced their hand with the 'rights.' We'd like it if you cast more SC2. -_- Does SC2 have a sponsor game? There's a couple major tiers/mid tier tournaments like IEM/Dreamhack and Homestory Cup; the premier stuff is still WCS/GSL
I think SC2 doesn't have a Sponsor game.
Would people like me if I invited Caster to play a sponsor game of SC2 gamers?
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On January 07 2020 07:38 SC-Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2020 14:22 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 06 2020 04:33 StarStruck wrote:On January 05 2020 11:27 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 05 2020 01:49 SC-Shield wrote:
Why did KeSPA abandon SC and SC2? SC2 was a poor performer. It was not a popular game in Korea. A lot has happened to SC1. The biggest incident was the match fixing scandal involving gamers. As a result, many companies disbanded their SC1 professional game teams and were not sponsors of the competition. Naturally, the SC1 professional league is gone. Call it for what it is too. You left Blizzard because they forced their hand with the 'rights.' We'd like it if you cast more SC2. -_- Does SC2 have a sponsor game? You mean pro leagues? There were NASL, MLG, GSL and Dreamhack before. Nowadays GSL and Blizzcon but I don't follow pro scene much. There are smaller tournaments too.
I'm talking about Sponsor Games, like StarCraft1.
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South Korea2106 Posts
On January 07 2020 20:09 Cruiser0929 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2020 12:39 DjKniteX wrote:On January 06 2020 14:22 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 06 2020 04:33 StarStruck wrote:On January 05 2020 11:27 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 05 2020 01:49 SC-Shield wrote:
Why did KeSPA abandon SC and SC2? SC2 was a poor performer. It was not a popular game in Korea. A lot has happened to SC1. The biggest incident was the match fixing scandal involving gamers. As a result, many companies disbanded their SC1 professional game teams and were not sponsors of the competition. Naturally, the SC1 professional league is gone. Call it for what it is too. You left Blizzard because they forced their hand with the 'rights.' We'd like it if you cast more SC2. -_- Does SC2 have a sponsor game? There's a couple major tiers/mid tier tournaments like IEM/Dreamhack and Homestory Cup; the premier stuff is still WCS/GSL I think SC2 doesn't have a Sponsor game. Would people like me if I invited Caster to play a sponsor game of SC2 gamers?
I'm fairly positive sponsored games would be a welcome addition to SC2. The problem you're faced with here is that there's no such platform like sponbbang.com to track those games / player ELO etc.
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On January 07 2020 21:52 Ziggy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2020 20:09 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 07 2020 12:39 DjKniteX wrote:On January 06 2020 14:22 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 06 2020 04:33 StarStruck wrote:On January 05 2020 11:27 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 05 2020 01:49 SC-Shield wrote:
Why did KeSPA abandon SC and SC2? SC2 was a poor performer. It was not a popular game in Korea. A lot has happened to SC1. The biggest incident was the match fixing scandal involving gamers. As a result, many companies disbanded their SC1 professional game teams and were not sponsors of the competition. Naturally, the SC1 professional league is gone. Call it for what it is too. You left Blizzard because they forced their hand with the 'rights.' We'd like it if you cast more SC2. -_- Does SC2 have a sponsor game? There's a couple major tiers/mid tier tournaments like IEM/Dreamhack and Homestory Cup; the premier stuff is still WCS/GSL I think SC2 doesn't have a Sponsor game. Would people like me if I invited Caster to play a sponsor game of SC2 gamers? I'm fairly positive sponsored games would be a welcome addition to SC2. The problem you're faced with here is that there's no such platform like sponbbang.com to track those games / player ELO etc.
The main barrier would probably be SC2 players being primarily tournament competitors and secondary streamers which greatly cuts into their potential spon matches time. I have seen money games between KR pros in SC2, but there's few of them as people simply do not request them in light of being able to see their competitive play even in weekly online cups.
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On January 07 2020 21:52 Ziggy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2020 20:09 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 07 2020 12:39 DjKniteX wrote:On January 06 2020 14:22 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 06 2020 04:33 StarStruck wrote:On January 05 2020 11:27 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 05 2020 01:49 SC-Shield wrote:
Why did KeSPA abandon SC and SC2? SC2 was a poor performer. It was not a popular game in Korea. A lot has happened to SC1. The biggest incident was the match fixing scandal involving gamers. As a result, many companies disbanded their SC1 professional game teams and were not sponsors of the competition. Naturally, the SC1 professional league is gone. Call it for what it is too. You left Blizzard because they forced their hand with the 'rights.' We'd like it if you cast more SC2. -_- Does SC2 have a sponsor game? There's a couple major tiers/mid tier tournaments like IEM/Dreamhack and Homestory Cup; the premier stuff is still WCS/GSL I think SC2 doesn't have a Sponsor game. Would people like me if I invited Caster to play a sponsor game of SC2 gamers? I'm fairly positive sponsored games would be a welcome addition to SC2. The problem you're faced with here is that there's no such platform like sponbbang.com to track those games / player ELO etc.
I can solve the problem.
The question now is. Who's good at the SC2 commentary?
Our castors don't register videos on personal YouTube channels for our YouTube channels.
Besides, all YouTube revenues are reinvested for content. They don't get paid separately.
Do you have any caster to join us in agreeing to these terms?
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On January 07 2020 22:52 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2020 21:52 Ziggy wrote:On January 07 2020 20:09 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 07 2020 12:39 DjKniteX wrote:On January 06 2020 14:22 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 06 2020 04:33 StarStruck wrote:On January 05 2020 11:27 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 05 2020 01:49 SC-Shield wrote:
Why did KeSPA abandon SC and SC2? SC2 was a poor performer. It was not a popular game in Korea. A lot has happened to SC1. The biggest incident was the match fixing scandal involving gamers. As a result, many companies disbanded their SC1 professional game teams and were not sponsors of the competition. Naturally, the SC1 professional league is gone. Call it for what it is too. You left Blizzard because they forced their hand with the 'rights.' We'd like it if you cast more SC2. -_- Does SC2 have a sponsor game? There's a couple major tiers/mid tier tournaments like IEM/Dreamhack and Homestory Cup; the premier stuff is still WCS/GSL I think SC2 doesn't have a Sponsor game. Would people like me if I invited Caster to play a sponsor game of SC2 gamers? I'm fairly positive sponsored games would be a welcome addition to SC2. The problem you're faced with here is that there's no such platform like sponbbang.com to track those games / player ELO etc. The main barrier would probably be SC2 players being primarily tournament competitors and secondary streamers which greatly cuts into their potential spon matches time. I have seen money games between KR pros in SC2, but there's few of them as people simply do not request them in light of being able to see their competitive play even in weekly online cups.
So if I summarize what you're saying,
SC2 doesn't need a lot of content like StarCast TV because many gamers play in big and small competitions anyway?
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South Korea2106 Posts
On January 08 2020 02:37 Cruiser0929 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2020 22:52 Ej_ wrote:On January 07 2020 21:52 Ziggy wrote:On January 07 2020 20:09 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 07 2020 12:39 DjKniteX wrote:On January 06 2020 14:22 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 06 2020 04:33 StarStruck wrote:On January 05 2020 11:27 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 05 2020 01:49 SC-Shield wrote:
Why did KeSPA abandon SC and SC2? SC2 was a poor performer. It was not a popular game in Korea. A lot has happened to SC1. The biggest incident was the match fixing scandal involving gamers. As a result, many companies disbanded their SC1 professional game teams and were not sponsors of the competition. Naturally, the SC1 professional league is gone. Call it for what it is too. You left Blizzard because they forced their hand with the 'rights.' We'd like it if you cast more SC2. -_- Does SC2 have a sponsor game? There's a couple major tiers/mid tier tournaments like IEM/Dreamhack and Homestory Cup; the premier stuff is still WCS/GSL I think SC2 doesn't have a Sponsor game. Would people like me if I invited Caster to play a sponsor game of SC2 gamers? I'm fairly positive sponsored games would be a welcome addition to SC2. The problem you're faced with here is that there's no such platform like sponbbang.com to track those games / player ELO etc. The main barrier would probably be SC2 players being primarily tournament competitors and secondary streamers which greatly cuts into their potential spon matches time. I have seen money games between KR pros in SC2, but there's few of them as people simply do not request them in light of being able to see their competitive play even in weekly online cups. So if I summarize what you're saying, SC2 doesn't need a lot of content like StarCast TV because many gamers play in big and small competitions anyway?
As far as the foreign scene is concerned, I suppose that might be an accurate statement - there's loads of streamers and content creators who cover almost everything that goes on. The story might be different for Korean viewers, though - you'd need to look into that yourself ^^. Pretty much the only Korean streamer who covers online cups is Crank (https://www.twitch.tv/tvcrank), which means there's probably much less content being delivered to the Korean fanbase.
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On January 08 2020 03:26 Ziggy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2020 02:37 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 07 2020 22:52 Ej_ wrote:On January 07 2020 21:52 Ziggy wrote:On January 07 2020 20:09 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 07 2020 12:39 DjKniteX wrote:On January 06 2020 14:22 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 06 2020 04:33 StarStruck wrote:On January 05 2020 11:27 Cruiser0929 wrote:On January 05 2020 01:49 SC-Shield wrote:
Why did KeSPA abandon SC and SC2? SC2 was a poor performer. It was not a popular game in Korea. A lot has happened to SC1. The biggest incident was the match fixing scandal involving gamers. As a result, many companies disbanded their SC1 professional game teams and were not sponsors of the competition. Naturally, the SC1 professional league is gone. Call it for what it is too. You left Blizzard because they forced their hand with the 'rights.' We'd like it if you cast more SC2. -_- Does SC2 have a sponsor game? There's a couple major tiers/mid tier tournaments like IEM/Dreamhack and Homestory Cup; the premier stuff is still WCS/GSL I think SC2 doesn't have a Sponsor game. Would people like me if I invited Caster to play a sponsor game of SC2 gamers? I'm fairly positive sponsored games would be a welcome addition to SC2. The problem you're faced with here is that there's no such platform like sponbbang.com to track those games / player ELO etc. The main barrier would probably be SC2 players being primarily tournament competitors and secondary streamers which greatly cuts into their potential spon matches time. I have seen money games between KR pros in SC2, but there's few of them as people simply do not request them in light of being able to see their competitive play even in weekly online cups. So if I summarize what you're saying, SC2 doesn't need a lot of content like StarCast TV because many gamers play in big and small competitions anyway? As far as the foreign scene is concerned, I suppose that might be an accurate statement - there's loads of streamers and content creators who cover almost everything that goes on. The story might be different for Korean viewers, though - you'd need to look into that yourself ^^. Pretty much the only Korean streamer who covers online cups is Crank (https://www.twitch.tv/tvcrank), which means there's probably much less content being delivered to the Korean fanbase.
So when you're working on content for SC2, you're going to have to do it.
Is casting more desirable for Koreans, not for foreigners?
If there are various big and small competitions in a foreign country. Foreigners are unlikely to react much to this content.
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Hello Cruiser0929, how come Mong is streaming. He was just enlisted to army.
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On January 12 2020 20:15 whaski wrote:
Hello Cruiser0929, how come Mong is streaming. He was just enlisted to army.
http://bj.afreecatv.com/cksgmldbs/post/50998591
seems like he has to wait for another 6 months before his service actually starts
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He started his service long ago. He requested to change his working place due to his health issue and it will take a long time.
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I saw that Soulkey streamed today. How was that possible? I though they weren't allowed to stream during service?
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On January 15 2020 06:59 FakeFin wrote:
I saw that Soulkey streamed today. How was that possible? I though they weren't allowed to stream during service?
On January 14 2020 23:58 Chris_Havoc wrote:Some are allowed stream while they are still doing their service. Same thing happened to Polt streaming SC2. If memory serves Polt was able stream at certain hours on certain days as long as he had permission from his superiors to do so.
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On January 15 2020 06:59 FakeFin wrote:
I saw that Soulkey streamed today. How was that possible? I though they weren't allowed to stream during service?
he lost 9 digits amount of KRW(6 digits amount of USD) by some fraud in a month.
he saved up his money for 10 years, lost all of it in a month.
his future plan for now is stream 10 hours a day every day, participate all the opened tournaments.
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On January 15 2020 09:23 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2020 06:59 FakeFin wrote:
I saw that Soulkey streamed today. How was that possible? I though they weren't allowed to stream during service? he lost 9 digits amount of KRW(6 digits amount of USD) by some fraud in a month. he saved up his money for 10 years, lost all of it in a month. his future plan for now is stream 10 hours a day every day, participate all the opened tournaments.
Ouch. That's...not good. Hope it wasn't stolen by someone Soulkey trusted in a business deal gone bad. 
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On January 15 2020 09:50 Chris_Havoc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2020 09:23 LaStScan wrote:On January 15 2020 06:59 FakeFin wrote:
I saw that Soulkey streamed today. How was that possible? I though they weren't allowed to stream during service? he lost 9 digits amount of KRW(6 digits amount of USD) by some fraud in a month. he saved up his money for 10 years, lost all of it in a month. his future plan for now is stream 10 hours a day every day, participate all the opened tournaments. Ouch. That's...not good. Hope it wasn't stolen by someone Soulkey trusted in a business deal gone bad.
Pretty sure that's what happened to Stork so I wouldn't be surprised. It seems that progamers really lack real world experience because of their adolescent lifestyle...
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On January 15 2020 09:23 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2020 06:59 FakeFin wrote:
I saw that Soulkey streamed today. How was that possible? I though they weren't allowed to stream during service? he lost 9 digits amount of KRW(6 digits amount of USD) by some fraud in a month. he saved up his money for 10 years, lost all of it in a month. his future plan for now is stream 10 hours a day every day, participate all the opened tournaments.
So is Soulkey done with his service or did he just postpone it?
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On January 15 2020 19:04 whaski wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2020 09:23 LaStScan wrote:On January 15 2020 06:59 FakeFin wrote:
I saw that Soulkey streamed today. How was that possible? I though they weren't allowed to stream during service? he lost 9 digits amount of KRW(6 digits amount of USD) by some fraud in a month. he saved up his money for 10 years, lost all of it in a month. his future plan for now is stream 10 hours a day every day, participate all the opened tournaments. So is Soulkey done with his service or did he just postpone it?
Plz think deeply why i'm not back yet.
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On January 15 2020 09:23 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2020 06:59 FakeFin wrote:
I saw that Soulkey streamed today. How was that possible? I though they weren't allowed to stream during service? he lost 9 digits amount of KRW(6 digits amount of USD) by some fraud in a month. he saved up his money for 10 years, lost all of it in a month. his future plan for now is stream 10 hours a day every day, participate all the opened tournaments.
Interesting, was it a business endeavor gone-wrong or just straight theft?
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