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iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation297 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-27 16:33:35
August 15 2019 23:37 GMT
#1
SCBW.GG - Pro game analytics


Greetings, Starcraft community!

As a part of our community I see many players grinding hard by playing a lot of ladder, but their skill growths really slow.
As a player I found out that I struggle at improving my skills at this game too. I have good mechanical skills, fast hands etc. But obviously it’s not enough and to be honest I still don’t understand a lot of aspects of this game.
How the hell FlaSh got so far in his game sense? How did he practice on his road? What should newcomers or mid-level players do to reach at least 1% of his level?

The answer is simple. Practice decision making skills.

But how?
Watch youtube VODS and repeat all the actions this guy do? No. There are hundreds of decisions made by a player for a ~15 minute game. It’s hard to find them if your skill is lower.

I believe that the key is to be able to analyze replays. Replays is the knowledge of all bo’s you can ever imagine. Unfortunately they all are uselessly drowned in our replay folders.

At the current state of our community we don’t have the single source for replays. Even if you find some it would be 10 years ago updated database or any low player uploaded his fun 2 hour game for unknown reason. That means we don’t have enough information for analysis and improve.

I have always dreamt to have an app when you can store all your replays. To be able to track progress in match-ups, strategies, vs other players. Get insights about build orders in trend. To know what other players do versus specific builds.

I found solution.

Dear fellows! Let me announce SCBW.GG!

Mission
  1. Revival of deep replay analysis
  2. Resurgence of replay sharing
  3. Renaissance of the best e-sport strategy game

Goals
  1. Collect 1,000,000 replays
  2. Build a complex strategy knowledge database
  3. Guide players to achieve better results


Here’s the features that are publicly available:
  • Database of games based on replays
  • Both Starcraft: Remastered and 1.16.1 replays support
  • Cloud replay storage
  • Simple game statistics (including actions from game)
  • Simple dashboard based on user’s games
  • Simple filter by games
  • Game sharing
  • Tourney module (only for game sorting purpose)


This is the starting point to publicly test those features and collect some replays.


The next features should be:
  • Auto-uploading replays (desktop app to save your time)
  • Build order module (inspired by https://lotv.spawningtool.com/ )
  • SPON match module (inspired by http://sponbbang.com/ )
  • Advanced filter - you will be able to search games with specific build against other
  • Twitch relays - statistics on your stream right after a game has finished


How does it work?
  1. Go to https://scbw.gg/
  2. If you want to upload replays and track your stats - register an account
  3. If you want to search some games you don’t need to register
  4. Each uploaded replay information converting to a game automatically.
  5. After you uploaded some replays, go to edit nicknames page. You will see all nicknames of players from uploaded replays. Find yours and click add. Current games will be assigned to your user account. Players from future uploaded replays will be automatically assigned to these nicknames.
  6. If you upload a replay, you are the owner of the game and able to make it either published or private. By default all your games are private.
  7. Some replays doesn’t have results of the game. To track your stats you will need to define it manually (mostly losses)
  8. Also there is an Event section where you can find games of specific tourney.
  9. Each event has many tournaments. Each tournament has many games. For example: BW Jeez Weekly is an event. BW Jeez Weekly #25 is its tournament.


LET'S GO


Feel free to contact us on
  • Discord: https://discord.gg/4Z7HW2J (release notes, feedback and more)
  • Public issue tracker: https://github.com/an3uryzm/scbwgg-issues/issues (if you want to contribute)
  • Email: gg@scbwgg.com (any question)
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10581 Posts
August 16 2019 00:02 GMT
#2
Woah sweet! This is awesome, thanks for sharing! I will be using this a lot for sure. Seems like a great tool. Awesome work once again.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia8916 Posts
August 16 2019 00:10 GMT
#3
This looks promising at first glance. I actually had plans on working on something very similar to this.

I see you've made a github repository to track issues, but are you planning on making the code open source as well?
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation297 Posts
August 16 2019 00:42 GMT
#4
On August 16 2019 09:02 GGzerG wrote:
Woah sweet! This is awesome, thanks for sharing! I will be using this a lot for sure. Seems like a great tool. Awesome work once again.


Thanks!

On August 16 2019 09:10 2Pacalypse- wrote:
This looks promising at first glance. I actually had plans on working on something very similar to this.

I see you've made a github repository to track issues, but are you planning on making the code open source as well?


Thanks for the feedback!
At the current stage we have no plans on making the code open source yet.
JonttuTonttu
Profile Joined November 2018
76 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-16 01:28:23
August 16 2019 01:27 GMT
#5
Looks like a really promising site, I like the clean non-cluttered look a lot.

What are modules btw, because if they're what I think they are it's good that someone else has already started on developing a build order one. since that is one of the suggestions I've been thinking about giving to Blizzard for the past several months for example to replace the empty space next to the minimap and the unit selection panel or, wherever the empty space is on the panel, at the bottom of the screen when widescreen mode is used.
IvaNioX2
Profile Joined September 2018
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-16 02:44:48
August 16 2019 02:23 GMT
#6
Thanks man!
Nice goals
Corolary: You (or someone) are able to create 2x2 league with this by adding tags to filters
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
August 16 2019 03:10 GMT
#7
This is really amazing, any plans to add in EAPM or any advanced macro/spending metrics?
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1963 Posts
August 16 2019 07:17 GMT
#8
I'll test it when back home. Looks very interesting Spx!
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia821 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-16 08:17:13
August 16 2019 08:16 GMT
#9
Looks neat, trying it out.

Mirror matchup count seems to be bugged:
(although PvP frequency certainly feels like more than total games played on the ladder)

[image loading]
Zaibakk
Profile Joined May 2017
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-16 11:29:34
August 16 2019 11:28 GMT
#10
Wow, this looks amazing! Thank you for your effort on improving BW esport!
Gorgonoth
Profile Joined August 2017
United States466 Posts
August 16 2019 12:09 GMT
#11
This looks super promising! Thanks for putting this work in Spx.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1100 Posts
August 16 2019 12:41 GMT
#12
I got small suggestion for the UX. Here is the user story:
- just tried to register but I don't receive an email (at gmail.com email address)
- I see there is a message to contact someone - but there aren't any details who and where to be contacted?!
[image loading]
suggestion / advice -- There should be a form, or email address, or chat - something

Other than that - the site looks good, the functionalities are something like modern BWChart in the cloud. I love it!
Keep up the good work. Once you fix all the small details - it will be a great place for SC education and dick measuring
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation297 Posts
August 16 2019 15:46 GMT
#13
On August 16 2019 11:23 IvaNioX2 wrote:
Thanks man!
Nice goals
Corolary: You (or someone) are able to create 2x2 league with this by adding tags to filters


True. But for now we are focusing on 1v1 statistics. Also threre are only 1v1 games are supported yet.

On August 16 2019 17:16 Soulforged wrote:
Mirror matchup count seems to be bugged:
(although PvP frequency certainly feels like more than total games played on the ladder)

[image loading]


Bug Demolished

On August 16 2019 12:10 -Debaser- wrote:
This is really amazing, any plans to add in EAPM or any advanced macro/spending metrics?


EAPM - yes, but it turned out a hard task actually, so it won't get super fast
Macro/spending metrics - we need to investigate it first. Because information from replay is not enough to make an accurate metrics. Replay gives us just commands, sended by a player during the game (and processed by broodwar engine). Also there's no events in replay. All those "units produced", "building complete" events etc. are seen only at broodwar engine. So it may be a better choice to wait until BWAPI for Remastered will come out.

On August 16 2019 21:41 BlueStar wrote:
suggestion / advice -- There should be a form, or email address, or chat - something

Other than that - the site looks good, the functionalities are something like modern BWChart in the cloud. I love it!
Keep up the good work. Once you fix all the small details - it will be a great place for SC education and dick measuring

Fixed. Thank you! Very good points :D If you still have any problems with login, let us know https://scbw.gg/contacts
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-16 19:26:06
August 16 2019 19:21 GMT
#14
Awesome work! This looks really well made and helpful.

Just one little thing: Maybe you want to check grammar and phrasing of the explanatory text on the main-page. Would be a shame if such a great website had multiple mistakes in there. (Not saying that I'm flawless or anything, but even I spotted some)
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia821 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-16 19:27:59
August 16 2019 19:27 GMT
#15
Yeah, the macro metrics are the same issue BWChart & others always had. Just taking all the input commands and treating them as if a unit was made/building was constructed is not helpful. EAPM is more of a realistic task.

Thanks for the mirror matchup fix! Can confirm it works now.
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
August 16 2019 20:36 GMT
#16
wow amazing initiative
Lumire
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States607 Posts
August 17 2019 08:21 GMT
#17
Super cool!
|| o.o
QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
381 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-27 10:28:34
August 27 2019 10:28 GMT
#18
Very cool tool, thanks. Just a suggestion: maybe it's better to show list of games on the home page instead of showing the splash screen first with two buttons. I know it's one click away but it adds to the experience. In most cases you want to download replays, only in some cases you want to upload/register. So why not make https://scbw.gg/analytics/ the new home page?
[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
412 Posts
August 27 2019 11:29 GMT
#19
at least i get errors clicking those two links under "The next features should be:"
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation297 Posts
August 27 2019 16:34 GMT
#20
On August 27 2019 19:28 QuadroX wrote:
Very cool tool, thanks. Just a suggestion: maybe it's better to show list of games on the home page instead of showing the splash screen first with two buttons. I know it's one click away but it adds to the experience. In most cases you want to download replays, only in some cases you want to upload/register. So why not make https://scbw.gg/analytics/ the new home page?


absolutely true, on plan

On August 27 2019 20:29 [AS]Rattus wrote:
at least i get errors clicking those two links under "The next features should be:"


Fixed :D Thanks
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