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Jaedong: Never Give Up!

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Jaedong: Never Give Up!

Text byBigFan
Graphics byv1
February 26th, 2018 23:44 GMT
Jaedong
Over a year has passed since Jaedong returned to his former home, that of competitive Brood War. Considered one of the best zergs during the KeSPA era, he was a ruthless competitor and a mechanical monster born out of pure passion and love for the game. A hard worker with plenty of humility and kindness while lacking in arrogance; qualities that only a few possessed but, were highly sought after. As someone who was nicknamed the Tyrant, had multiple titles under his belt, various innovations in the ZvZ matchup and held an overall winrate of 67%, Jaedong stood on a platform that only a few zergs over the years have managed to climb. Thus, he was always brought up as an example of someone to strive for and emulate. Adored by fans all over, he was no stranger to the spotlight and he has always tried to reward his fans with good games.

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A common anecdote that was discussed between progamers was about the one time that Jaedong missed a single dropship in a long ZvT game. Anyone who has played a long Starcraft game understands the fatigue, drain and lack of attention that results from this, so in hindsight, the majority of players would excuse themselves. But, Jaedong was mad at himself for missing it to the point that he proceeded to scourge every dropship afterwards, never missing a single one.

What really stands out from this story is Jaedong's attitude and approach to the game. Someone striving to be the best has to constantly push himself in order to stand at the top of the throne. However, this also means that every loss would sting even worse than the last. Tales of Jaedong balling his eyes out after losing important matches were passed around. While practice makes perfect is a common motif, in a highly competitive game such as BW, many factors such as preparation, execution, decision making, attention to minute details etc... play a role and unless a player is heads and shoulders above his opponent, there is never a guarantee of victory till the opponent taps out.

Having played both Brood War and Starcraft II competitively for over 10 years, Jaedong has his fair share of wrist injuries due to his relentless work ethics. Despite this, he continues to persevere at the cost of his health. After all, this is an individual who wants to be remembered by the fans as "someone who can do something out of nothing". After coming back to the scene, he made his first foray into Afreeca Starleague Season 2, by making it through the tough Busan qualifiers. In the Ro24, he was placed in a group with Mong, BeSt and Hint. He advanced in second place off the back of beating Mong in the final match after failing to beat BeSt in the winners' match.

Taking part in the group selection ceremony afterwards, Jaedong wore a mostly exhausted impression all night. Whether it was due to his physical condition or a lot of other thoughts, something was definitely amiss.

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He continued his march in the Ro16 and was yet again confronted with the hurdle that was BeSt. Jaedong never relented even in defeat and up against 2 terrans in his worst matchup in the post-KeSPA era, the Tyrant showed his true colors and fighting spirit, mind gaming both Sharp and Mind in consecutive order to advance from the group. In the quarterfinals, he met fellow player, Stork, who he crushed 3-0 in one-sided fashion before meeting his final challenger, the GOAT Flash in ASL2. With the end of professional BW, few could've forsaw what was about to take place. A bout between two players, LeeSsang, was about to unfold. The coveted FvJ that had stolen the hearts of BW fans was about to be played out, years after the possibility of an encounter diminished.

History was made that day. In order to help him perform at his best, Jaedong opted for more steroidal injections to control the pain. He tried his hardest to overcome Flash but, came up just a bit short. However, his never die attitude and baller status were on full display that night. To all the fans that swarmed the Afreeca studio, Jaedong showed that meticulous preparation can overcome even a God at times. Though it was not the championship that he desired and many fans wanted, a 2-3 loss to his eternal rival, Flash, who himself wasn't sure if he would win, would surely reinvigorate the Tyrant even further and many were hopeful for the next ASL. Their rivalry also managed to show that BW was alive and well with upwards of 300 thousand people tuning in for their battle.

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Alas, it's possible that Jaedong's condition was worse than previously stated. After all, he is mortal and wrists aren't built to withstand such intense workouts. His physical condition had been constantly deteriorating all along. However, Jaedong kept up with his rough regimen, only taking breaks when needed while participating in several online clan games, all in order to repay the fans for their kindness and support over the years. His eyes were on the prize, an ASL championship to show that the Tyrant is back.

After being seeded into ASL3 Ro16 in a group with sSak, Last and hero, Jaedong found himself even further from his dream than he previously anticipated. Losing his first game to sSak on Andromeda after gaining a fourth base, he eliminated hero in the losers' match but, could not draw on his full strength to beat Last on Circuit Breaker. In a closely contested game, Jaedong almost managed to break Last to advance but, the terran who is considered a beast of his own held on by a hairline to eliminate the Tyrant.


It was a major drawback for Jaedong, however, much like the past, he was determined to keep fighting. Against all medical advice from his doctors to stop playing the game, Jaedong continued to practice on his stream. Ice packs were used to help manage the pain in between games and it seemed that Jaedong had several other medical problems that were likely hindering his performance. Carpal Tunnel syndrome was already known about by fans but, revelations were made to the foreign community regarding a chronic eye condition called Keratoconjunctivitis Sicca, aka dry eyes which were affecting his vision. Jaedong also suffered from Flexor Tendinopathy, also known as Golfers Elbow, which can lead to severe pain with continued use and required some rest.

Despite all the setbacks and the fact that constant gaming will make his prognosis worse, he decided to play in the ASL4 qualifiers and made it through the Seoul qualifier. In the Ro24, he bested both Hiya and Mini on Gold Rush and Fighting Spirit respectively with flashes of brilliance shown in his game. He was present at the group selection ceremony but, once again, it seemed like he was in a daze. Unfortunately, he ended up landing in a rough group in the Ro16 and his path was cut short yet again. Having made the winners' match after beating Stork, Jaedong lost a thriller to Soulkey on Gold Rush. He proceeded to face Rain in the finals' match but, the young protoss got the upper hand after some solid defense, thus eliminating the Tyrant.

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Once again, Jaedong faced a solid wall that he was unable to overcome. How frustrating it must've been to realize that time and age are catching up to you. That victory, something that was seized naturally in your prime, has been evading your grasp.

After Jaedong was eliminated, rumours floated around that this was his last BW tournament. At the time, these rumours felt like the truth, especially considering his health and inability to perform at his desired level. Many of his fans wanted him to rest and take a break, rather than injure himself trying to seize another title. Alas, Jaedong has other plans and has continued pushing himself. He has been winning more games lately on stream, taking games off Flash and has improved even further. He decided to take part in the ASL5 qualifiers and made it through the Seoul qualifier recently. He is set to continue competing when ASL5 resumes in March.

Whether Jaedong finally manages to break through the Ro16 is anyone's guess, however, regardless of the outcome, one thing is certain. His attitude and determination are a lesson for us all. His BW legacy, his mental fortitude, his propensity for making the unexpected happen and his hatred of defeat will be stories that will be spoken off for ages. The Tyrant is coming!
Writer: Bigfan
Graphics: v1
Thanks to: 2Pacalypse- and Lemmata
Photo Credits: Afreeca
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T0mken
Profile Joined March 2014
Norway78 Posts
February 26 2018 23:53 GMT
#2
Thanks for a good read, hate these injuries putting excellent players and talents on the sideline. 이재동 화이팅!
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
February 27 2018 00:23 GMT
#3
Nice read. I will believe in Jaedong until the very end, though I do want him to rest at this point. One last sprint JD and then please rest on your amazing legacy.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
February 27 2018 01:21 GMT
#4
The Tyrant is coming.... well said sir.
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Standard Queens
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 27 2018 01:31 GMT
#5
On February 27 2018 08:44 BigFan wrote:
he is mortal


This is fake news. If I were editor, such a statement would never see the light of day.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
SuperCyan
Profile Joined October 2017
Philippines67 Posts
February 27 2018 02:27 GMT
#6
I really like this article! Really beautiful how it was written. My favorite line is "he was a ruthless competitor and a mechanical monster born out of pure passion and love for the game."

In the photo above did Jaedong really cry? Do you guys know what specific game that was coz I want to watch it. It is the same game about him sniping all the dropships? Would love to see that too. I really like watching Jaedong play, you can really sense the passion he gives to the game.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
February 27 2018 03:26 GMT
#7
Hasn't JD been talking about retiring for at least a year now? It's crazy that he comes so close every time but decides to keep competing, I can't imagine how painful it is to keep competing but how much he wants it.

JD fighting!
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
February 27 2018 03:46 GMT
#8
I have nothing for respect for Jaedong. I really wish that he'd place his health above everything else though. Maybe if he wins this ASL he'll finally look after his own health.
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
Toss_Master
Profile Joined June 2017
United States46 Posts
February 27 2018 04:15 GMT
#9
Long live The Tyrant!
MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
February 27 2018 04:56 GMT
#10
I had no idea JD was playing while suffering that many illnesses

Now I'm really hoping he wins this ASL so that he can finally take a break or retire for the sake of his health.
The world wants to be deceived
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 27 2018 05:11 GMT
#11
jaedong!!!!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18366 Posts
February 27 2018 06:30 GMT
#12
Jaedong has always been a player who does not have the greatest talent for RTS but the greatest mentality and work ethic imo.
Tempest99
Profile Blog Joined January 2018
53 Posts
February 27 2018 06:30 GMT
#13
jd was always a favorite pro. athletic life takes its toll.
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 06:59:08
February 27 2018 06:55 GMT
#14
I am convinced that Jaedong is by far the most well disciplined individual I have seen within an e-Sports industry I have witnessed thus far.

Jaedong's mindset and professional demeanor has been praised by literally everybody in the scene:

NaDa: "Professional gamers need to have drive and passion, but they also need humility. Jaedong is very skilled, but has humility on top of that. He is at the apex, yet is respectful to everybody around him, regardless of their age. He deserves the title of a professional."

January (ex-manager of Samsung Khan): "I like his gaming style, and every time I have talked to him in person, I was impressed with his attitude and mindset. His gaming style and attitude is what I want from a player. He is hard working also."

Horang2: "I want to learn from Jaedong's mindset. The way in which he sustains his form through practice even though he is at the top is truly astonishing."

JangBi: "The best player is Jaedong. He is a gaming machine. How do you even practice that hard? It is mind boggling."

Lee Jae-Kyun (ex-manager of Woongjin Stars): "I believe that the player who has everything a manager could want from a gamer is Jaedong. It is not only his results he brings, there is nothing to fault about his mindset or the way in which he applies himself during practice. If I tell a player that he needs to play a hundred matches in order to win in a single televised match, most players would be exasperated with the work load. Jaedong would take it in strides. That is what differentiates him from the rest."

Jaedong (I'm roughly paraphrasing what he once said on stream): "I know for a fact that I was the hardest working player back in the days. It is not just about playing the most amount of games. It is about pushing yourself to your limits with each and every game."

Jaedong may not be the most talented gamer to have touched the game, but the way in which he applied himself during his professional years cannot be matched by anyone. Yes there were those who matched his discipline in very short bursts, but none that managed to sustain that level of rigor and devotion to a single craft for that long. It is something I haven't seen from any video gamer I have heard or seen thus far.
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Ayey
Profile Joined November 2014
Denmark15 Posts
February 27 2018 08:03 GMT
#15
That was beautiful, great write-up!

I hope so much that JD is able to pull through in ASL5, doesn't have to win it, just come far!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10108 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 08:14:55
February 27 2018 08:14 GMT
#16
" Tales of Jaedong balling his eyes out"

Bawling*

"heads and shoulders above his opponent"

Head and shoulders*

Great stuff as always! But, also as always, I wonder where the editor for BW news is.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
February 27 2018 08:23 GMT
#17
Great read. Kinda wish he'd retire for his own future's self so I'd be so happy if he could break through during this coming ASL and get a happy end to his career.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7886 Posts
February 27 2018 08:34 GMT
#18
YESSSSSS JAEDONG FIGHTING !!!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU JAEDONG !!!!

PS: OF COURSE HE ISN'T MORTAL !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
February 27 2018 08:46 GMT
#19
Wtf is this font.

And yes, please Jaedong, never give up ! Or atleast not until I went to Korea with the only goal of seeing you play a live final before my very admirative eyes.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50101 Posts
February 27 2018 08:52 GMT
#20
On February 27 2018 15:55 Letmelose wrote:
I am convinced that Jaedong is by far the most well disciplined individual I have seen within an e-Sports industry I have witnessed thus far.

Jaedong's mindset and professional demeanor has been praised by literally everybody in the scene:

NaDa: "Professional gamers need to have drive and passion, but they also need humility. Jaedong is very skilled, but has humility on top of that. He is at the apex, yet is respectful to everybody around him, regardless of their age. He deserves the title of a professional."

January (ex-manager of Samsung Khan): "I like his gaming style, and every time I have talked to him in person, I was impressed with his attitude and mindset. His gaming style and attitude is what I want from a player. He is hard working also."

Horang2: "I want to learn from Jaedong's mindset. The way in which he sustains his form through practice even though he is at the top is truly astonishing."

JangBi: "The best player is Jaedong. He is a gaming machine. How do you even practice that hard? It is mind boggling."

Lee Jae-Kyun (ex-manager of Woongjin Stars): "I believe that the player who has everything a manager could want from a gamer is Jaedong. It is not only his results he brings, there is nothing to fault about his mindset or the way in which he applies himself during practice. If I tell a player that he needs to play a hundred matches in order to win in a single televised match, most players would be exasperated with the work load. Jaedong would take it in strides. That is what differentiates him from the rest."

Jaedong (I'm roughly paraphrasing what he once said on stream): "I know for a fact that I was the hardest working player back in the days. It is not just about playing the most amount of games. It is about pushing yourself to your limits with each and every game."

Jaedong may not be the most talented gamer to have touched the game, but the way in which he applied himself during his professional years cannot be matched by anyone. Yes there were those who matched his discipline in very short bursts, but none that managed to sustain that level of rigor and devotion to a single craft for that long. It is something I haven't seen from any video gamer I have heard or seen thus far.


everyone should strive to be like jaedong in their lives.
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
February 27 2018 09:21 GMT
#21
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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
February 27 2018 09:54 GMT
#22
Jaedong look after yourself man, the game isn't worth it. Do what you love but don't destroy yourself thats more devastating to the fans than their favorite Zerg losing games. We all know what you are capable of, anyone wishing you to play and further injure yourself isn't really a fan.
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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
February 27 2018 09:57 GMT
#23
On February 27 2018 17:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 15:55 Letmelose wrote:
I am convinced that Jaedong is by far the most well disciplined individual I have seen within an e-Sports industry I have witnessed thus far.

Jaedong's mindset and professional demeanor has been praised by literally everybody in the scene:

NaDa: "Professional gamers need to have drive and passion, but they also need humility. Jaedong is very skilled, but has humility on top of that. He is at the apex, yet is respectful to everybody around him, regardless of their age. He deserves the title of a professional."

January (ex-manager of Samsung Khan): "I like his gaming style, and every time I have talked to him in person, I was impressed with his attitude and mindset. His gaming style and attitude is what I want from a player. He is hard working also."

Horang2: "I want to learn from Jaedong's mindset. The way in which he sustains his form through practice even though he is at the top is truly astonishing."

JangBi: "The best player is Jaedong. He is a gaming machine. How do you even practice that hard? It is mind boggling."

Lee Jae-Kyun (ex-manager of Woongjin Stars): "I believe that the player who has everything a manager could want from a gamer is Jaedong. It is not only his results he brings, there is nothing to fault about his mindset or the way in which he applies himself during practice. If I tell a player that he needs to play a hundred matches in order to win in a single televised match, most players would be exasperated with the work load. Jaedong would take it in strides. That is what differentiates him from the rest."

Jaedong (I'm roughly paraphrasing what he once said on stream): "I know for a fact that I was the hardest working player back in the days. It is not just about playing the most amount of games. It is about pushing yourself to your limits with each and every game."

Jaedong may not be the most talented gamer to have touched the game, but the way in which he applied himself during his professional years cannot be matched by anyone. Yes there were those who matched his discipline in very short bursts, but none that managed to sustain that level of rigor and devotion to a single craft for that long. It is something I haven't seen from any video gamer I have heard or seen thus far.


everyone should strive to be like jaedong in their lives.


Thats not a bad attitude or perception, be the best and try your hardest to be the best.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
Blue
Profile Joined July 2004
Norway359 Posts
February 27 2018 12:59 GMT
#24
JvJ <3
I must return to the time when I played with my own style, and when I determined the victory through strategies. And the strategies are a product of practicing more than anyone else. The key to success is to persevere through practice. Lim Yo-hwan
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2018 15:09 GMT
#25
I just hope JD will be happy whatever he does, if he is the most happy while competing even if that means health issues so be it. He knows best what he can do or should do atm. If he only does it for the fans i agree though, he should rather look after himself.
Other than that, he is a true role model for people. Always trying his hardest to be the best, always incredibly humble and human. Definitely my favorite pro player of all time in any esports, no that's not enough. One of my absolute favorite competitors in any field <3

I don't think anyone can change the passing of the seasons (laughs). A lot of time has flowed by, and I need to think about my life going forward. Whatever I end up doing, I'll do it while remaining thankful that I remained in the minds of some fans. I'd be thankful if when people think of StarCraft, they remembered that there was once a player called Jaedong.


We definitely will no matter what happens now.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 27 2018 16:21 GMT
#26
On February 27 2018 17:14 Jealous wrote:
" Tales of Jaedong balling his eyes out"

Bawling*

"heads and shoulders above his opponent"

Head and shoulders*

Great stuff as always! But, also as always, I wonder where the editor for BW news is.


He IS the editor.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10108 Posts
February 27 2018 16:41 GMT
#27
On February 28 2018 01:21 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 17:14 Jealous wrote:
" Tales of Jaedong balling his eyes out"

Bawling*

"heads and shoulders above his opponent"

Head and shoulders*

Great stuff as always! But, also as always, I wonder where the editor for BW news is.


He IS the editor.

"will be stories that will be spoken off for ages."

Of*
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jeremy Reimer
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada968 Posts
February 27 2018 16:54 GMT
#28
Great article. I am a lifelong, forever Jaedong fan. One nitpick I have with the writeup:


Considered one of the best zergs during the KeSPA era


This is incorrect. Jaedong is the best Zerg in Starcraft 1, of all time, bar none. This is without question, as no other Zerg came close to winning 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs and a WCS and various other major tournaments that defined the Starcraft 1 era. Certainly in Starcraft 2 he was a top Zerg, getting many second place finishes and a championship. When you combine the two games he is absolutely the best Zerg to ever play Starcraft.

Also an amazing, humble, and awesome human being.

Jaedong fighting!
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10108 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 18:02:21
February 27 2018 18:01 GMT
#29
On February 28 2018 01:54 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
Great article. I am a lifelong, forever Jaedong fan. One nitpick I have with the writeup:

Show nested quote +

Considered one of the best zergs during the KeSPA era


This is incorrect. Jaedong is the best Zerg in Starcraft 1, of all time, bar none. This is without question, as no other Zerg came close to winning 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs and a WCS and various other major tournaments that defined the Starcraft 1 era. Certainly in Starcraft 2 he was a top Zerg, getting many second place finishes and a championship. When you combine the two games he is absolutely the best Zerg to ever play Starcraft.

Also an amazing, humble, and awesome human being.

Jaedong fighting!


On February 28 2018 01:54 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is without question, as no other Zerg came close to winning 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs and a WCS and various other major tournaments that defined the Starcraft 1 era.


On February 28 2018 01:54 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
no other Zerg came close to winning 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs


(WCS is irrelevant)

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JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
February 27 2018 18:02 GMT
#30
Love JD but really would love to see him take care of himself and settle down. I would be thrilled to see him get a gf, get married later and watch a stream of him with a baby or something lol. I think I just want to see the man happy.
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Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
February 27 2018 20:18 GMT
#31
Cool article, thanks for writing it.
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 20:30:58
February 27 2018 20:26 GMT
#32
I really hope he wins something soon. Korean Air OSL S2 was heartbreaking to watch. From what I've read about his work ethic and approach towards the game throughout the years, he no doubt beats himself up over his own faults more than any rabid netizen ever could.

Guy deserves one man. It's almost like the fans (myself included) want to make up for that so badly. Nothing would make me happier than seeing him in another final with a repeat of the Batoo OSL vs Fantasy. Most memorable series that involved him winning for me.

Then he needs to probably take care of his health. I don't know if Flash has anymore wrist issues, but if it worked for him, hopefully Jaedong can get his sorted too. I'm not saying it shouldn't be a priority, but I know that Jaedong himself would want that ASL win above all else right now.
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SuperCyan
Profile Joined October 2017
Philippines67 Posts
February 27 2018 21:37 GMT
#33
On February 28 2018 03:02 JungleTerrain wrote:
Love JD but really would love to see him take care of himself and settle down. I would be thrilled to see him get a gf, get married later and watch a stream of him with a baby or something lol. I think I just want to see the man happy.



yeah I would like to see him like that just as Larva has his wife and his baby. Larva occasionally lets his wife and kid appear on the stream.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10667 Posts
February 27 2018 22:18 GMT
#34
Hell yea! Nice write up! Jaedong Fighting! I despise Zerg, but he is too handsome! haha
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3300 Posts
February 27 2018 22:47 GMT
#35
nice read, thanks!
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 27 2018 23:52 GMT
#36
I never followed BW but were a fan of Jaedong during his SC2 career, never knew he was playing while dealing with such serious health issues. This was a great read thanks!
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 07:24:31
February 28 2018 00:59 GMT
#37
On February 28 2018 01:54 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
Great article. I am a lifelong, forever Jaedong fan. One nitpick I have with the writeup:

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Considered one of the best zergs during the KeSPA era


This is incorrect. Jaedong is the best Zerg in Starcraft 1, of all time, bar none. This is without question, as no other Zerg came close to winning 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs and a WCS and various other major tournaments that defined the Starcraft 1 era. Certainly in Starcraft 2 he was a top Zerg, getting many second place finishes and a championship. When you combine the two games he is absolutely the best Zerg to ever play Starcraft.

Also an amazing, humble, and awesome human being.

Jaedong fighting!


In terms of results earned as a professional, absolutely. However, some people put more emphasis on intangibles such as memorability during peak form and influence on the landscape of the professional scene. However, I do believe people sometimes underestimate how much more Jaedong has achieved compared to sAviOr.

sAviOr barely had half a year as the top performing ProLeague zerg, as opposed to over five years Jaedong spent as the best performing ProLeague zerg. It is like comparing David and Goliath, so I won't even compare the two anymore from this particular front since it is an insult to Jaedong's legacy created within the ProLeague. This is nothing like the circumstances involving BoxeR, and NaDa, whose peaks came before the creation of the ProLeague. sAviOr made his debut after the creation of the ProLeague, yet never had a season where he ended up as the best performing ProLeague player.

Even if we look at what made sAviOr special (his individual league prowess), and take away the entire career achievements of sAviOr from Jaedong's body of work, this is the breakdown of the top four finishes that would be left remaining:

1st place finishes: 1
2nd place finishes: 2
Round of four appearances: 2

This is the entire top four finishes of some of the greatest modern day zerg players of all-time:

EffOrt

1st place finishes: 1
2nd place finishes: 0
Round of four appearances: 0

ZerO

1st place finishes: 0
2nd place finishes: 1
Round of four appearances: 3

Even if we only look into what made sAviOr special and consider his numerous high placements he had in individual leagues, sAviOr needs the combined top four individual league placements of EffOrt and ZerO on top of his own, to somewhat match the top four individual league placements Jaedong achieved over the course of his career.

The only things sAviOr has over Jaedong are intangible matters like meta-game advancements, memorable runs in certain tournaments, lores created around his legend, and the aura he had around him when he was at the top. Professionals are judged on their results. Entertainers are judged on how much they inspire the people around them. One can argue sAviOr was probably the better entertainer (better narratives surrounding him) and performance artist (more inspiring to some) involving the game of Brood War, but there is no universe where someone can logically explain how sAviOr was comparable as a professional gamer (as in people with the profession of being judged for their competitive results) of Brood War.
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
February 28 2018 04:20 GMT
#38
kespa emergent -> July (also my favourite zerg stylistically)
and afterwards, it's jaedong who was the most driven player at this period of competition.

regardless, of whether or not he was the best, you guy still have the opportunity to watch his games.
that's what we should be remember as it is, truly, the last time we'll see them.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10106 Posts
February 28 2018 07:06 GMT
#39
Where is tank to drop some truth bombs in here
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 08:06:54
February 28 2018 08:04 GMT
#40
I don't see how anyone could argue that Jaedong wasn't the best zerg. He had the longest peak as the best zerg during the era where BW what the most optimized, it's no contest. Yeah, he wasn't the best zerg when kespa and "pro" bw ended and nobody really knows how it would have evolved afterward, but as it is, no contest. He is even pulling decent runs since his comeback a year ago, proving he might've come back as the strongest zerg even after his weaker days in 2011-2012.
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CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
517 Posts
February 28 2018 08:55 GMT
#41
i don't think anyone should read too much into his facial expressions;
he's become a lot more sullen and withdrawn as he has matured into a man closer to his thirties than his teenage years.

this makes him more dangerous.
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
February 28 2018 12:09 GMT
#42
Excellent write up, my heart is always with JD in any match. JD fan since 07
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Tempest99
Profile Blog Joined January 2018
53 Posts
February 28 2018 18:44 GMT
#43
n.die)jaedong was his best moniker. I'd like to see him return to the n.die tag
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 01 2018 06:10 GMT
#44
Thanks all. Personally, hoping that if Jaedong wants to retire, he wins this next ASL beating Flash, Best and anyone else who has beaten him in the past ASLs. It would be a fitting end to his story and hopefully, he can rest up then
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 01 2018 06:45 GMT
#45
On March 01 2018 15:10 BigFan wrote:
Thanks all. Personally, hoping that if Jaedong wants to retire, he wins this next ASL beating Flash, Best and anyone else who has beaten him in the past ASLs. It would be a fitting end to his story and hopefully, he can rest up then


that would be a dream come true for him and everyone on this site. a cinderella story.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
March 02 2018 19:08 GMT
#46
<3 Jaedong.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
j2choe
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada243 Posts
March 04 2018 05:54 GMT
#47
This guy's the BW equivalent of Tiger Woods.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 04 2018 07:41 GMT
#48
Jaedong is the best zerg of all time, cuz he also did it in the toughest BW scene of all time.
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Piratezerg
Profile Joined January 2017
54 Posts
March 15 2018 02:22 GMT
#49
Jaedong is not just an amazing brood war player, he is a role model for how to achieve greatness. The celebrity I would most like to meet.
polvista1
Profile Joined March 2018
1 Post
March 24 2018 11:44 GMT
#50
<3 Jaedong. Take care !!!
gnash
Profile Joined April 2018
6 Posts
April 05 2018 05:34 GMT
#51
Jaedong has a good winrate in ZVZ and ZVT recently, I believe in Jaedong forever.
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