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Blizzard's Response: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20760966718?page=9#post-166
Entaro[AoV]
Profile Joined July 2009
United States184 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 23:17:32
January 18 2018 23:15 GMT
#61
We need more details regarding what Blizzard is doing re the ASL if we are to really voice our opinions. What happened!?

I know people have mentioned that Blizz is charging them $X or w/e, but until we hear that from either Blizzard or Afreeca, we shouldn't assume. Give us the necessary details so that we can have an actual petition / protest / whatever. Can someone (korean speaker at least) respond and ask?
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Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
January 18 2018 23:18 GMT
#62
On January 19 2018 08:04 Kafka777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Why the fuck you came here then? Thought anyone here needed your so smart opinion? I'll be saying the same thing when your fucking game is going fully die.


I'm only saying - be realistic. I like bw myself, played it a lot. Time to move on.


Why don't you tell that to people who play chess or any other game that has been around for centuries, i mean most people on the planet also don't play those games. What about football and soccer and boxing? Should those people move on as well?

My point is everyone has different tastes and just because you personally dont enjoy something doesn't mean it should be shut down. And why should they move on? As long as it isn't taking over their life and it's not getting in the way of priorities, its fine. I dont get why people like you go around throwing shade on a subject you could care less about. Sounds stupid if you ask me. Do you really have nothing better to do than to click on a subject you seem to hate and make a negative comment?

Your mentality boggles my mind. It's unusual.

Starcraft is a classic. I doubt it's ever going to die even when toxic people like you come around to discourage people.
allhenryros
Profile Joined July 2016
19 Posts
January 18 2018 23:18 GMT
#63
Can we make like a PATREON and fundrise something for a company to pay attention. I’d pay $100 myself.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
January 18 2018 23:40 GMT
#64
It's stupid Blizzard demands an $89,000 fee to run a tournament but doesn't contribute a dime. I really am sick of this company. It's almost as bad as the pay to play Activision patches they keep coming out with. I promise I won't ever pay attention to Blizzard products again because of the fiasco and half-assed screwup of Starcraft Remastered.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 19 2018 00:12 GMT
#65
Why can't Blizzard simply leave BW alone?
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2298 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-19 00:19:14
January 19 2018 00:18 GMT
#66
On January 19 2018 09:12 Lebesgue wrote:
Why can't Blizzard simply leave BW alone?


Cause it was the greatest thing ever made, and they know it.
they made fucking chess for computers...
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
January 19 2018 00:22 GMT
#67
I still remember people getting banned for criticizing SC2 and Blizzard
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-19 00:36:11
January 19 2018 00:24 GMT
#68
On January 19 2018 07:18 Kafka777 wrote:
BW is a niche old dead game, why would anyone imagine money would be coming into it. Obviously Blizzard supports SC2 and other more relevant games.

User was warned for this post.

Get a ~70k usd prize pool for the last season, probably have a similar prize pool for this season, struggle to come up with the extra 100k usd for trademark rights so the tournament can't be run. Somehow its lack of money coming into a dead game and not blizzard being greedy.
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
HansenZ
Profile Joined September 2017
49 Posts
January 19 2018 00:34 GMT
#69
On January 19 2018 09:24 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 07:18 Kafka777 wrote:
BW is a niche old dead game, why would anyone imagine money would be coming into it. Obviously Blizzard supports SC2 and other more relevant games.

User was warned for this post.

Get a ~70k usd prize pool for the last season, probably have a similar prize pool for this season, struggle to come up with the extra 100k usd for trademark rights so the tournament can't be run. Somehow its lack of money coming into it and not blizzard being greedy.


Blizzard asked too much for the license fee. How come the fee is a consistent amount given there are so many games way more popular than that?
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 19 2018 00:51 GMT
#70
At this point, I believe that Blizzard also actively shut down OGN being involved in another Proleague/OSL.

As if OGN wouldn't have seen the 300k peak of ASL3, yeah right.

I bet the showmatch organized by OGN was just to justify to the public not to get involved in BW, because Blizzard told them to do so. so that they get a licence for Overwatch.

The saddest thing is that would not even be the most crooked and saddest thing Blizzard pulled off. The shitshow they pull off right now with ASL5 and ATB2 and the horrendous fees just shows how two-faced they are.
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 19 2018 00:59 GMT
#71
On January 19 2018 09:22 RealityIsKing wrote:
I still remember people getting banned for criticizing SC2 and Blizzard


The silence of the Starcraft personalities directly or indirectly under Blizzard paycheck is astounding as well
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10687 Posts
January 19 2018 01:25 GMT
#72
Well shit.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
January 19 2018 01:31 GMT
#73
I guess this is an answer to Artosis's question as to why there aren't more BW tournaments.

Honestly this is infuriating. Especially after blizzard putting down a lot of money for a high schooler BW tournament.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
January 19 2018 01:36 GMT
#74
Tis unfortunate.
The old days were glorious.
Nerds aught to get mad.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
January 19 2018 02:17 GMT
#75
I have nothing nice to say so I won't say anything at all other than I'm massively disappointed.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
January 19 2018 02:21 GMT
#76
On January 19 2018 05:11 Cheesefome wrote:
why do they do this... it's crazy? Money corrupts the crap out of people so badddddddd, it's in every corner of the world.

Will i get banned for saying fk blizzard?

fk blizzard!

I will edit my post if admin says so but as of now... fk blizzzzzzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard!!!!!!!!


This guy nailed it right on the head.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 19 2018 02:49 GMT
#77
I honestly don't understand what the thought process is anymore. ATB2, you can at least argue that RM was almost out then we got no ATB3 and no ASL5 which is all ready and is being stopped by Blizzard.

Someone, please explain it to me because I just don't get it anymore! Blizzard isn't even doing squat here, they are just charging a large fee for running the event.

RM has turned out to be the worst possible news for the scene in years. What was supposed to help revitalize it has only halted the growth quite badly. All those bugs on release and news folks leaving due to frustration. Add on the fact that it affected a lot of community projects and it's just been a disaster. Now, the last haven of competitive BW is being negatively affected...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 19 2018 03:01 GMT
#78
Was this 100 million won fee ever confirmed, or is everyone still going off that one article on Naver which cited some unnamed "industry insider"?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 19 2018 03:11 GMT
#79
On January 19 2018 12:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Was this 100 million won fee ever confirmed, or is everyone still going off that one article on Naver which cited some unnamed "industry insider"?

So, you think Blizzard allows orgs to run BW tournaments for free? Either way, that's not really the issue here. To answer your question, I believe that post is the main one we have seeing as we'll never get an actual confirmation of just how much Afreeca has to pay to host an ASL.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3425 Posts
January 19 2018 03:16 GMT
#80
On January 19 2018 12:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Was this 100 million won fee ever confirmed, or is everyone still going off that one article on Naver which cited some unnamed "industry insider"?


That s a fair question. But even if the number is not exact, i cant imagine Afreeca releasing such a statement if Blizzard only asked for a reasonable fee (which they are entitled to, i mean it is their game).
I guess this is the last effort from them because blizzard wouldnt negotiate.
Horang2 fan
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