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Blizzard's Response: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20760966718?page=9#post-166
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 22:18:21
January 18 2018 22:17 GMT
#41
Has the way Blizzard is required to 'cooperate' been confirmed (i.e is the sticking point between Afreeca and Blizzard necessarily the fee, or could it be some other nonsense like branding rights or Afreeca wanting Blizzard to subsidize the costs)?
MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
January 18 2018 22:18 GMT
#42
I hope I'm not the only one that feels somewhat cheated after buying SC:R. The game not only had bugs when it was released, but the servers for 1v1 ladder/games to be played was atrocious as well. It definitely felt like an incomplete product, not to mention that Blizzard seems to have stopped promoting Starcraft now altogether after the release.
The world wants to be deceived
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 22:40:59
January 18 2018 22:18 GMT
#43
BW is a niche old dead game, why would anyone imagine money would be coming into it. Obviously Blizzard supports SC2 and other more relevant games.

User was warned for this post.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1399 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 23:10:35
January 18 2018 22:28 GMT
#44
They are doing more harm than good at this point

Remastered was a huge blow to Korean scene tbh. May be on back to recovery now but it did more damage than harm as early bugs and problem drove viewers and streamers away from bw as it was nigh impossible for some streamers to do group clan wars that attracted lot of viewers for lesser streamers. The group clan wars created ecosystem where big streamers were able to spread viewers and donation around to lesser streamers and encouraged organic growth. But with that not being available for few months due to bad lag, a lot of smaller streamers suffered, and took this opportunity to "branch out".

And now with whole remastered problem with tournament, Koreans are growing with resentment at this point to blizzard when BW realistically is on last legs and blizzard is hampering even the last real generation before all ex pros retire


While I do not at all doubt blizzard's intention with SCR, the handling of esports section has been very very poor.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 18 2018 22:33 GMT
#45
On January 19 2018 07:18 Kafka777 wrote:
BW is a niche old dead game, why would anyone imagine money would be coming into it. Obviously Blizzard supports SC2 and other more relevant games.


fuck you

User was warned for this post.
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
January 18 2018 22:40 GMT
#46
i just want the days of 1.16.1 back when blizzard had forgotten about bw and the scene was doing just fine... i hate remastered with such a passion, and it comes with the death of ASL too..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 18 2018 22:42 GMT
#47
On January 19 2018 07:18 Kafka777 wrote:
BW is a niche old dead game, why would anyone imagine money would be coming into it. Obviously Blizzard supports SC2 and other more relevant games.

User was warned for this post.


Why the fuck you came here then? Thought anyone here needed your so smart opinion? I'll be saying the same thing when your fucking game is going fully die.

User was warned for this post
sunbeams are never made like me...
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
January 18 2018 22:44 GMT
#48
No one is asking Blizzard to put money into broodwar. Honestly, if top level competition died because there wasn't enough support/sponsorship money I think most of us would be ok with that. What's really irritating is that there are organizers who want to host tournaments, but are being blocked by Blizzard for undisclosed reasons.

Regarding speculation that Blizzard is planning its own league, I hope you can understand why many of us are not hopeful for that. The typical business reason for game companies hosting their own leagues is to sell copies of their game or merchandise associated with it. As broodwar players, many of us already spent the first $15 in years to play the game we like when SCR comes out. I'd much rather competitions be run independently by companies like Afreeca, who profit from streamers of BW, than for us to depend on our enjoyment of BW aligning with Blizzard's current business interests.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia12997 Posts
January 18 2018 22:45 GMT
#49
So what is the issue here? Is Blizzard for some strange reason preventing AfreecaTV from starting ASL5? Or are they just not supporting the game financially in any way shape or form to the point it will die?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 18 2018 22:48 GMT
#50
On January 19 2018 07:45 RowdierBob wrote:
So what is the issue here? Is Blizzard for some strange reason preventing AfreecaTV from starting ASL5? Or are they just not supporting the game financially in any way shape or form to the point it will die?


Please, the answer is obvious. Blizzard never changed.

It is the same involvement when they announced SC2. Suddenly they were interested in the BW scene.

Is it still possible to refund SCR? I want nothing to do with this crap of a company.
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Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
January 18 2018 22:48 GMT
#51
On January 19 2018 07:45 RowdierBob wrote:
So what is the issue here? Is Blizzard for some strange reason preventing AfreecaTV from starting ASL5? Or are they just not supporting the game financially in any way shape or form to the point it will die?

From the way the letter reads, it seems like the strange reason option.
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Heyjoray
Profile Joined September 2015
240 Posts
January 18 2018 22:50 GMT
#52
On January 19 2018 07:42 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 07:18 Kafka777 wrote:
BW is a niche old dead game, why would anyone imagine money would be coming into it. Obviously Blizzard supports SC2 and other more relevant games.

User was warned for this post.


Why the fuck you came here then? Thought anyone here needed your so smart opinion? I'll be saying the same thing when your fucking game is going fully die.

Yeah, why doesnt he just post /sign? Isnt it obvious that you cant have a different point of view?
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
January 18 2018 22:58 GMT
#53
On January 19 2018 07:40 Endymion wrote:
i just want the days of 1.16.1 back when blizzard had forgotten about bw and the scene was doing just fine... i hate remastered with such a passion, and it comes with the death of ASL too..


Yeah.... i was the happiest dude alive prior to remastered in terms of getting my weekend gaming fix. Now it's like i end up more irritated by the time im done for the night.

I want 1.16 starcraft and fish server back.
[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
427 Posts
January 18 2018 23:00 GMT
#54
when is openBW?
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6506 Posts
January 18 2018 23:02 GMT
#55
On January 19 2018 07:50 Heyjoray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 07:42 outscar wrote:
On January 19 2018 07:18 Kafka777 wrote:
BW is a niche old dead game, why would anyone imagine money would be coming into it. Obviously Blizzard supports SC2 and other more relevant games.

User was warned for this post.


Why the fuck you came here then? Thought anyone here needed your so smart opinion? I'll be saying the same thing when your fucking game is going fully die.

Yeah, why doesnt he just post /sign? Isnt it obvious that you cant have a different point of view?

cuz we are here to stand as one and keep this ship floating,no need his crap or yours if you are with him.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 18 2018 23:03 GMT
#56
On January 19 2018 07:50 Heyjoray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 07:42 outscar wrote:
On January 19 2018 07:18 Kafka777 wrote:
BW is a niche old dead game, why would anyone imagine money would be coming into it. Obviously Blizzard supports SC2 and other more relevant games.

User was warned for this post.


Why the fuck you came here then? Thought anyone here needed your so smart opinion? I'll be saying the same thing when your fucking game is going fully die.

Yeah, why doesnt he just post /sign? Isnt it obvious that you cant have a different point of view?


Thank you for clearing that for me, you must be a special one and deserve a medal but I think I run out of them, will some cookies make you happy?

I don't fucking still get why SC2 ppl come here and start shitting. I'm sure if Blizz will completely erase this game from universe they still will continue sucking their dick. It's like they're dancing on grave.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
January 18 2018 23:04 GMT
#57
Why the fuck you came here then? Thought anyone here needed your so smart opinion? I'll be saying the same thing when your fucking game is going fully die.


I'm only saying - be realistic. I like bw myself, played it a lot. Time to move on.

User was warned for this post
[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
427 Posts
January 18 2018 23:07 GMT
#58
On January 19 2018 08:03 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 07:50 Heyjoray wrote:
On January 19 2018 07:42 outscar wrote:
On January 19 2018 07:18 Kafka777 wrote:
BW is a niche old dead game, why would anyone imagine money would be coming into it. Obviously Blizzard supports SC2 and other more relevant games.

User was warned for this post.


Why the fuck you came here then? Thought anyone here needed your so smart opinion? I'll be saying the same thing when your fucking game is going fully die.

Yeah, why doesnt he just post /sign? Isnt it obvious that you cant have a different point of view?


Thank you for clearing that for me, you must be a special one and deserve a medal but I think I run out of them, will some cookies make you happy?

I don't fucking still get why SC2 ppl come here and start shitting. I'm sure if Blizz will completely erase this game from universe they still will continue sucking their dick. It's like they're dancing on grave.

the answer is too obvious.
the troll feeds on your reactions.

just try to ignore the dirt.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 23:13:36
January 18 2018 23:10 GMT
#59
On January 19 2018 08:04 Kafka777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Why the fuck you came here then? Thought anyone here needed your so smart opinion? I'll be saying the same thing when your fucking game is going fully die.


I'm only saying - be realistic. I like bw myself, played it a lot. Time to move on.


+ Show Spoiler +


skip 1:20 if shit not working
sunbeams are never made like me...
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
January 18 2018 23:14 GMT
#60
On January 19 2018 08:04 Kafka777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Why the fuck you came here then? Thought anyone here needed your so smart opinion? I'll be saying the same thing when your fucking game is going fully die.


I'm only saying - be realistic. I like bw myself, played it a lot. Time to move on.

There are organizers, willing to host a big tournament with a lot of pize money.
There are professional players, eager to compete in any kind of competition.
There are fans/viewers all around the world who are still passionate about this game.

Why exactly should we move on?
Check out @MapOfTheMonth on Twitter and under http://bit.ly/motmorg
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