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Blizzard's Response: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20760966718?page=9#post-166
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
January 18 2018 20:55 GMT
#21
ASL5 OR RIOT!
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8224 Posts
January 18 2018 20:56 GMT
#22
Lol Blizzard.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1652 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 20:57:56
January 18 2018 20:57 GMT
#23
It's insane Blizzard gives all the money to SC2. I love both games...more love to BW please.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36990 Posts
January 18 2018 20:58 GMT
#24
"Relevant gaming company"? Why not just say Blizzard?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1183 Posts
January 18 2018 20:58 GMT
#25
"Relevant Gaming Company" CEO wants to say blizzard, but can't so he figured out how to say it without saying it. Blizzard really hates loyalty.
Flash should fear Sacsri
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States599 Posts
January 18 2018 20:58 GMT
#26
On January 19 2018 05:51 Leeoku wrote:
Legit question though, how can they operate still if all their events are int he red?


Afreeca makes enough money from streamers through balloons and advertising that they offset their losses from the ASL. There's also the need to provide a competitive platform for the players/streamers through tournaments like the ASL and ATB.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
January 18 2018 21:10 GMT
#27
blizzard burn in hell
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6506 Posts
January 18 2018 21:12 GMT
#28
Im loving so much that love letter from Blizzard. hahaha ..
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 21:14:41
January 18 2018 21:13 GMT
#29
The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking ASL5.

On January 19 2018 05:57 StarscreamG1 wrote:
It's insane Blizzard gives all the money to SC2. I love both games...more love to BW please.


Yeah, pretty sure that's not where it's going.
I think esports is pretty nice.
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States581 Posts
January 18 2018 21:19 GMT
#30
sometimes it seems there is a huge disconnect between the blizzard developer/pr team and the business/trademark/rights/MONEY team. This is why big companies suck, money rules all.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium3996 Posts
January 18 2018 21:24 GMT
#31
lol
the game is 20 years old
everything that could have been harvested from this game is already long spent
just let if fucking go, blizz
let it go.
Drone is a way of living
Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway628 Posts
January 18 2018 21:40 GMT
#32
Although I agree it's frustrating - infuriating even - I don't agree that simply saying "fuck Blizzard" is going to help. The ASL needs support, not someone who says bad things for them.

How do we best give this help? How can we best voice our concerns and see to that they see that there's many of us, and not just some personalities speaking on the game's behalf?

For instance, is there a mail adress we can send mails to? Not necessarily some copy/paste-stuff, as I reckon it's easy to think it's just a bunch of bots doing it. But if as many as possible state that they want to see the ASL happen, why and that there's still a following, wouldn't that at least be much better than simply being angry?

To ask wiser minds than myself - what can we do to increase our chances for a constructive solution, as much as possible?
It's ok. I still love you <3
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 18 2018 21:45 GMT
#33
On September 06 2017 09:49 K.H.J wrote:
http://m.sports.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=468&aid=0000299523

This article is most viewed in esports section.

Something interesting is in this article.

1. Blizzard's license fee for 1 competition is 100,000,000 won.
(1$ = 1,000~1,200 usually.)

2. Every competition, host company usually spend 400,000,000won.
(Not including license charge)

3. New WCG which i mentioned before re-consider SCR tournament


It is not working out because Blizzard charges Afreeca like $89,000 USD for each ASL tournament. It is disgusting.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 18 2018 21:49 GMT
#34
holy shit a thread where everyone isnt sucking blizzards dick. But in all seriousness, it will be difficult to convince a company to invest money in exchange for advertising in a 2 decade old game. That pitch needs to be amazing
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6506 Posts
January 18 2018 21:51 GMT
#35
On January 19 2018 06:49 LongShot27 wrote:
holy shit a thread where everyone isnt sucking blizzards dick. But in all seriousness, it will be difficult to convince a company to invest money in exchange for advertising in a 2 decade old game. That pitch needs to be amazing

The thing is that they arent investing shit but charging 89k to Afreeca.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 18 2018 21:57 GMT
#36
On January 19 2018 06:51 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 06:49 LongShot27 wrote:
holy shit a thread where everyone isnt sucking blizzards dick. But in all seriousness, it will be difficult to convince a company to invest money in exchange for advertising in a 2 decade old game. That pitch needs to be amazing

The thing is that they arent investing shit but charging 89k to Afreeca.


business is fun
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
January 18 2018 22:00 GMT
#37
So Afreeca has event ready, fans ready, players ready, everything covered and on top of that willing to pay blizzard 90k and they just say "no" ?
What the fk .. anyone?
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
PuddleZerg
Profile Joined August 2015
United States82 Posts
January 18 2018 22:00 GMT
#38
if they're all deep in the red.

I don't see it happening. Money is all that talks in situations these days.
"Weapons grade autism" - Destiny
Kaewins
Profile Joined April 2013
Bulgaria138 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 22:08:32
January 18 2018 22:08 GMT
#39
Can anyone explain to me what reason Blizzard could possibly have for not supporting this? I mean they make so much money, that what we're talking about here is just silly. It isn't like we ask of them to run 20 ASLs, it isn't unreasonable and SC:R just launched, so what's the deal?
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 18 2018 22:13 GMT
#40
What a shocker!
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