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halomonian
Brazil255 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On December 21 2017 12:19 halomonian wrote: we need now a bigger bash, with all the western old school and new school, very HSC esque. And can we please get day9 to play on one of these tours? I can't say for sure, but given the fact Sean wants to teach people I wonder if he's worried about playing on Camera as if he's not as good as people think he is people will unfortunately rip into him and say he shouldn't be teaching anyone. The internet sucks. | ||
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Guam3521 Posts
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
On December 21 2017 12:19 halomonian wrote: we need now a bigger bash, with all the western old school and new school, very HSC esque. And can we please get day9 to play on one of these tours? On December 21 2017 16:47 Qikz wrote: I can't say for sure, but given the fact Sean wants to teach people I wonder if he's worried about playing on Camera as if he's not as good as people think he is people will unfortunately rip into him and say he shouldn't be teaching anyone. The internet sucks. His job is being a caster, he used to be really good and he still has a ton of knowledge, that hasn't gone anywhere. Being good at BW means playing a lot and that's extremely time consuming, when you're 30+ it's tough to find the time and energy to do so. People find enjoyment in different things, it should be obvious to everyone that Day[9] loves the theoretical/analytical side of the game. If he finds pleasure in analyzing/talking about the game then so be it, who are we to tell him what he should be doing with his time? I'm the same way (i'm sure a lot of you are as well), i like both watching and playing BW but given the choice i'd rather watch games. I stopped playing 2-3 months ago, my skill level is dog shit compared to what it was just a few months ago.. i still have the same amount of game knowledge tho. A high end player will retain his game knowledge, to question his credibility based on his current lvl of play is just dumb (directed at your hypothetical statement Qikz, not you). | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24584 Posts
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 22 2017 00:57 Alpha-NP- wrote: I wish some broodwar players like Bonyth Sziky and Trutacz were invited to this. They are in better shape than Draco and Incontrol. TrutaCz isn't even playing Brood War. Sziky isn't exactly in shape either, it would be a close match vs Draco's current level. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On December 22 2017 00:51 TT1 wrote: His job is being a caster, he used to be really good and he still has a ton of knowledge, that hasn't gone anywhere. Being good at BW means playing a lot and that's extremely time consuming, when you're 30+ it's tough to find the time and energy to do so. People find enjoyment in different things, it should be obvious to everyone that Day[9] loves the theoretical side of the game. If he finds pleasure in analyzing/talking about the game then so be it, who are we to tell him what he should be doing with his time? I'm the same way (i'm sure a lot of you are as well), i like both watching and playing BW but given the choice i'd rather watch games. I stopped playing 2-3 months ago, my skill level is dog shit compared to what it was just a few months ago.. i still have the same amount of knowledge tho. A high end player will retain his game knowledge, to question his credibility based on his current lvl of play is just dumb (directed at your hypothetical statement Qikz, not you). You have to give day9 credit for having a strong theoretical understanding for strateg, tactics and gane flow. I agree that's not connected to current playing skill. Then, it's thing that isn't accepted in the BW community at all: that somebody can have a strong understanding of the game while not being able to execute it properly. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 22 2017 03:38 Cele wrote: You have to give day9 credit for having a strong theoretical understanding for strateg, tactics and gane flow. I agree that's not connected to current playing skill. Then, it's thing that isn't accepted in the BW community at all: that somebody can have a strong understanding of the game while not being able to execute it properly. I think it's fair to say that the grand majority (if not all) of low level players lack some degree of strategic knowledge about the game. Simply put, until you reach a godlike mechanical level, action prioritization is a very strong skill to have, which is something that low level players don't do well at all. It has nothing to do with mechanical ability, it's a large piece of strategy that low level players are missing. It's like if you are playing turn base strategy and you know all of the unit counters, but you don't know which actions are most valuable (and in which order they should be performed)... You only get a certain amount of turns, you have to make the most of them. Thus, I think low level players confuse a good understanding for unit counters and behavior with global strategy, there's just a lot more that goes into it. | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
On December 22 2017 04:34 Eywa- wrote: I think it's fair to say that the grand majority (if not all) of low level players lack some degree of strategic knowledge about the game. Simply put, until you reach a godlike mechanical level, action prioritization is a very strong skill to have, which is something that low level players don't do well at all. It has nothing to do with mechanical ability, it's a large piece of strategy that low level players are missing. It's like if you are playing turn base strategy and you know all of the unit counters, but you don't know which actions are most valuable (and in which order they should be performed)... You only get a certain amount of turns, you have to make the most of them. Thus, I think low level players confuse a good understanding for unit counters and behavior with global strategy, there's just a lot more that goes into it. I agree with what you said. About Day9, he often makes really strong analytical comments, which you would only expect from a player actively practicing and playing at a very high level. I'm not aware of him practicing a lot, but, he always sounds like he knows exactly what's going on and what's really important at any given moment of time. It's impressive to me, because I always need to play a lot to have the same kind of understanding which seemingly just comes natural to him in BW from being very good in the past. | ||
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10680 Posts
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On December 21 2017 12:02 sc19980331 wrote: VOD: Day 1 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/210626737 Day 2 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/210894381 Day3 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/210960279 Brackets: http://challonge.com/3z1llvv0 Thanks for the VODs. Great event! Watching it was like receiving a virtual christmas hug from BW. | ||
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angrypofke
Lithuania174 Posts
And with such viewership, Broodwar can't be ignored anymore. I'm excited for future events, high skill, low skill, all of them! | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
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Dirt McGirt
New Zealand129 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
I think I enjoyed this event even more than previous ones. Wish to see more current foreigners clashing with ex top pros and plus you can mix ex SC2 pros too. Having a korean pro as the final boss on top of that will be icing on the cake - we saw how Larva delivered. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
Not sure if they figured it out or not. Anyways, @InControl: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Yggdrasill | ||
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