Noone would care if he did that to Draco because everyone knows that Larva is like 1000 times better than Draco.If you watched the Italian tournament the korean guy won it easily and it wasnt fun to watch at all.I hope Larva wont stop his BM because of the stupid Chinese company Zotac in the future.
On December 05 2017 12:12 Zealgoon wrote: Some people here apparently think Lx is some random foreign scrub who doesn't take Starcraft seriously. He is not. Ten years ago he too was a progamer, training like crazy trying to make the top. He battled in premium tournaments when Larva was still a no-namer. He'd largely gone on with his life now, but that doesn't make it right to publicly humilate him like he's some kind of imbecile. Showman or not, you don't do that shit against respected old players.
How Larva could be someone 10 years ago when he was literally kid? Now he's someone and Lx is no one. End of story.
Honestly, the games were stale as hell. Larva's antics were the only thing keeping me watching the stream. Even the commentators looked unenthusiastic and yawned several times right in front of the camera. They only ever got riled up when Larva was playing.
If ZOTAC were smart, they'd keep bringing Larva back except invite some players closer to his level. People that oppose him will tune in to watch him lose and his fans will tune in to see, well, Larva being Larva.
SCBW isn't exactly in it's prime. We need some characters to keep this thing going.
Outrage after somebody disrespects their opponents as a showmanship comes with the territory. So does publicity. It's all part of the baggage. I didn't even know this tournament was going on until the outrage popped up.
With that being said, people who draw the line in accordance with their own specific parameters, and to pretend that their individual tastes should be acknowledged as universal truths, are quite frankly speaking, delusional.
It's like edgy comedy, everybody is just fine with it until the subject matter brushes on something too close to heart. People laugh at some at some of the most heinous shit you could imagine, such as the death of a fellow human being, making light of a serious social phenomenon, then when the jokes moves on to their personal sacred zone, such as their religion of choice, gender or nationality, they suddenly become outraged.
Sure what Larva did was incredibly disrespectful, but don't give me that bullshit about being outraged because Larva did it versus somebody older, or was far more accomplished as a professional player.
How much outrage do you think was caused when Larva danced mid-game versus Sea in the semi-finals of a much more prestigious tournament?
It is understandable that Legend is upset with the huge disrespect. It is understandable that people who care for Legend and what he stands for is upset with the huge disrespect. What is not understandable is when people come up with bullshit reasons such as the lack of sincerity for their level of outrage. People are outraged less about the actions carried out by Larva, but who it was directed against, since Larva has always been an obnoxious clown who doesn't hold back from doing in-game disrespect versus his SK Telecom T1 seniors such as BeSt, should the opportunity present itself.
If people desire a certain level of respect, that is fine. If people want to support their favourite player after being disrespected in one of the most humiliating ways, that is fine. But don't give me that bullshit of always wanting a healthy level of respect and honour in Brood War only when the situation irks you for whatever personal reasons you have.
If nowadays the game needs someone to act like a monkey for it to be enjoyable then we can easily say that BW days are long gone, it's not like most care more about the game over its culture and drama here anyway as it has shown million times over the years. Next time invite Larva to do Terror-like stuff on stream, it will have even more publicity 100%
Lavar stream the debriefing in his own channel in 생 스타홍구 영구제명 해명합니다 최종 공지 http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/28545029 he said that the banning him in zotac cup is zotac"china"s dogmatic decision. zotac "korea and america " is helping for him to solve this problem. Also he said that he tried to appolize to Lx face to face but Lx refused to accept it.
Wow Lx is sooooo crybaby, my gosh. I lost all my respect.
I think the only surprise here is how Zotac reacted. I can understand if Legend or his fans were upset because Larva pretty much humiliated him in a dominating fashion. Zotac banning Larva is just silly and it speaks more how immature its management is. Larva didn't break any rules and the tournament had a pretty casual atmosphere. It was a showmatch afterall. If Zotac really had problems with the BM, why didn't they tell him to tone it down after the first series or give him a warning? This is just stupid
Lavar stream the debriefing in his own channel in 생 스타홍구 영구제명 해명합니다 최종 공지 http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/28545029 he said that the banning him in zotac cup is zotac"china"s dogmatic decision. zotac "korea and america " is helping for him to solve this problem. Also he said that he tried to appolize to Lx face to face but Lx refused to accept it.
Wow Lx is sooooo crybaby, my gosh. I lost all my respect.
Yeah, he also said that he had permission to do what he did while apparently he didn't, I'd wait
1) Larva made the event entartaining 2) Lx got butthurt and called him and his fans "mentally retarded" and trash 3) Larva said he asked permission to perform those stunts 4) Larva tried to apologize to Lx face to face but Lx refused to accept it after match 5) Zotac lied (IMO) and said Larva didn't ask permission and banned Larva (I refuse to believe Larva could lie about this)
On December 05 2017 12:57 outscar wrote: Someone posted on reddit:
Lavar stream the debriefing in his own channel in 생 스타홍구 영구제명 해명합니다 최종 공지 http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/28545029 he said that the banning him in zotac cup is zotac"china"s dogmatic decision. zotac "korea and america " is helping for him to solve this problem. Also he said that he tried to appolize to Lx face to face but Lx refused to accept it.
Wow Lx is sooooo crybaby, my gosh. I lost all my respect.
Yeah, he also said that he had permission to do what he did while apparently he didn't, I'd wait
So you now calling Larva liar or what? Where's your evidence? I'm 100% sure Zotac saying now otherwise because company is chinese and they don't want to see Larva anymore that's why.
As a SC fans from China myself: "过去送个外卖娱乐下怎么遇到这种脑子有病的人.你能从中获得什么乐趣或者为了积累到一些弱智粉丝.开始知道你这个人的时候还认为你的努力获得应有的成绩让我觉得挺励志.现在在我看来简直瞎了眼.游戏里的事哪怕你丢我原子弹我也就笑笑.游戏之外你就是一个小丑的表现.这就是你和冠军选手的差别.垃圾" means: I was prepared for an losing match for entertainment.How come did I meet such a disrespectful/ill-minded/doesn't-know-what-he-was-doing guy? What kind of joy would you get from this? Do you do this to please ill-minded fans? I respected you in the beginning because I thought you earn your achievement through hardworking, and you deserved it. But I was wrong. I would laugh at myself even if you put a nuclear bomb(which is a joke to end the game in the Chinese context) or anything like that in the game. But you acted like a clown. That's the difference between you and a champion player." In another post from LX's Weibo, LX said he knew this event after the game from a group chat, and he was jaw-dopped then. Zotac apologised on their Weibo page. As for their twitter, I don't know.
I think Larva goes too far at this joke thing. I understand that players would dance after a game to draw attention and to promote the game. Putting your feet on a keyboard is another thing. If this is acceptable, any Chinese ping-pong player should take a pot into a ping-pong match and lets see, what would happen if they WIN/LOSE with a pot in hand? The keyboard is something you touch directly to play this game. This move is disrespectful to anybody who plays broodwar. You don't want to be treated like that, especially for people like LX, who is a hero to the chinese broodwar fans, and who is a father.
On December 05 2017 12:52 aQuaSC wrote: If nowadays the game needs someone to act like a monkey for it to be enjoyable then we can easily say that BW days are long gone, it's not like most care more about the game over its culture and drama here anyway as it has shown million times over the years. Next time invite Larva to do Terror-like stuff on stream, it will have even more publicity 100%
Were you expecting some close and exciting games of Larva vs foreigners?
On December 05 2017 12:57 outscar wrote: Someone posted on reddit:
Lavar stream the debriefing in his own channel in 생 스타홍구 영구제명 해명합니다 최종 공지 http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/28545029 he said that the banning him in zotac cup is zotac"china"s dogmatic decision. zotac "korea and america " is helping for him to solve this problem. Also he said that he tried to appolize to Lx face to face but Lx refused to accept it.
Wow Lx is sooooo crybaby, my gosh. I lost all my respect.
Yeah, he also said that he had permission to do what he did while apparently he didn't, I'd wait
So you now calling Larva liar or what? Where's your evidence? I'm 100% sure Zotac saying now otherwise because company is chinese and they don't want to see Larva anymore that's why.
I'm not calling nobody a liar, he said that, they said otherwise, whoever you're in favor of is right I guess
On December 05 2017 12:52 aQuaSC wrote: If nowadays the game needs someone to act like a monkey for it to be enjoyable then we can easily say that BW days are long gone, it's not like most care more about the game over its culture and drama here anyway as it has shown million times over the years. Next time invite Larva to do Terror-like stuff on stream, it will have even more publicity 100%
Were you expecting some close and exciting games of Larva vs foreigners?
I guess not, I just don't need seeing people being disrespected to enjoy a video game stream but I think it's all just a matter of sense of humor, many people derive fun from someone being hurt in whatever way. I would not have fun while being humiliated with a foot just like many of you don't like being stomped while trying very hard and getting offensive gg-ed on ladder (or maybe you do?) but I'm sure a ton of people would be happy to see that and proceed to call me names afterwards
On December 05 2017 12:57 ilikeredheads wrote: I think the only surprise here is how Zotac reacted. I can understand if Legend or his fans were upset because Larva pretty much humiliated him in a dominating fashion. Zotac banning Larva is just silly and it speaks more how immature its management is. Larva didn't break any rules and the tournament had a pretty casual atmosphere. It was a showmatch afterall. If Zotac really had problems with the BM, why didn't they tell him to tone it down after the first series or give him a warning? This is just stupid
apparently only china zotac say "ban larva", not the us zotac .
next match, larva's foot vs nada or draco . good guess. or maybe d,for the benifit of entertament and publicty.
On December 05 2017 13:03 VankaWang wrote: As a SC fans from China myself: "过去送个外卖娱乐下怎么遇到这种脑子有病的人.你能从中获得什么乐趣或者为了积累到一些弱智粉丝.开始知道你这个人的时候还认为你的努力获得应有的成绩让我觉得挺励志.现在在我看来简直瞎了眼.游戏里的事哪怕你丢我原子弹我也就笑笑.游戏之外你就是一个小丑的表现.这就是你和冠军选手的差别.垃圾" means: I was prepared for an losing match for entertainment.How come did I meet such a disrespectful/ill-minded/doesn't-know-what-he-was-doing guy? What kind of joy would you get from this? Do you do this to please ill-minded fans? I respected you in the beginning because I thought you earn your achievement through hardworking, and you deserved it. But I was wrong. I would laugh at myself even if you put a nuclear bomb(which is a joke to end the game in the Chinese context) or anything like that in the game. But you acted like a clown. That's the difference between you and a champion player." In another post from LX's Weibo, LX said he knew this event after the game from a group chat, and he was jaw-dopped then. Zotac apologised on their Weibo page. As for their twitter, I don't know.
I think Larva goes too far at this joke thing. I understand that players would dance after a game to draw attention and to promote the game. Putting your feet on a keyboard is another thing. If this is acceptable, any Chinese ping-pong player should take a pot into a ping-pong match and lets see, what would happen if they WIN/LOSE with a pot in hand? The keyboard is something you touch directly to play this game. This move is disrespectful to anybody who plays broodwar. You don't want to be treated like that, especially for people like LX, who is a hero to the chinese broodwar fans, and who is a father.
I recommend scrolling up and reading the post by Letmelose. If you personally draw the line at feet on keyboard, that's fine. However, saying it is disrespectful to anybody who plays broodwar is ridiculous lol.
On December 05 2017 12:57 ilikeredheads wrote: I think the only surprise here is how Zotac reacted. I can understand if Legend or his fans were upset because Larva pretty much humiliated him in a dominating fashion. Zotac banning Larva is just silly and it speaks more how immature its management is. Larva didn't break any rules and the tournament had a pretty casual atmosphere. It was a showmatch afterall. If Zotac really had problems with the BM, why didn't they tell him to tone it down after the first series or give him a warning? This is just stupid
Actually, seeing the Chinese netizen's reactions and all those articles in their press, I'm not surprised at all that Zotac would ban him. Seems like it could really endanger their business to not take an absolute stance. It's been kind of shocking to me to see how deadly serious Chinese people on here seem to be taking the incident. I would feel hurt and upset too if I were a longtime Lx fan, but I don't think I would be calling for blood like some of these comments.
On December 05 2017 09:16 blunderfulguy wrote: So, calling somebody an "idiot" in this situation is totally fine, then? Ya learn something every day... sad that it usually isn't what I hope to learn.
so many people acting like merely calling someone idiot as a response to them publicly degrading you is just as bad. Like yeah, Larva will be terribly upset over someone calling him an idiot, sure.
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