EPTfish_radio is saying that lx's post is poorly translated and the translation makes it sound like lx is calling larva a literal retard
ZOTAC Larva/Legend Incident Discussion - Page 5
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
fish_radio is saying that lx's post is poorly translated and the translation makes it sound like lx is calling larva a literal retard | ||
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noname_
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chuDr3t4
Russian Federation484 Posts
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1081 Posts
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JacktheTerr
United States97 Posts
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blunderfulguy
United States1415 Posts
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Brutaxilos
United States2634 Posts
On December 05 2017 09:16 blunderfulguy wrote: So, calling somebody an "idiot" in this situation is totally fine, then? Given what Larva did to Legend, yes. Calling him "mentally retarded" is a bit much, but calling him an "idiot" is perfectly acceptable for the situation. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
People talking about how it was ok because it being a showmatch, need to understand that unspoken rules of social decensy dont get thrown out of the window just because you are playing games titled "showmatch". I dont know what Larva was thinking, maybe he thought that he got invited also because for his crazy antics while streaming and that his foreign fans wanted him to deliver on that, but clearly Legend had different expectations than to be just remembered as the guy at the other end of Larva's jokes. I dont think necessarily there was any bad intent from Larva and therefore i dont think that a ban, but a warning with a request for an apology should be a more warranted. Lastly i would say its easy to be smart in hindsight. I was not sure how to react during the games. I didnt like it that much, but then again it was also a bit funny (just for the absurdity in it). But when thinking about it afterwards (and how it felt for the people offended) i have come to the conclusion you see above. | ||
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Songleyun
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User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
When I go out and play basketball and I notice the guy is a lot worse than me, hell yeah I'm gonna mess with him and make him look like a fool. Just like he would make me look like a fool if the situation was reversed. That's half the fun of competition. I really think people are just taking life and starcraft too seriously. edit: I see a lot of people saying they wouldn't have minded as much if he did troll builds. How is that any different? Both of them are for the sole purpose of making your opponent look like a goof for the viewers benefit. It's either that, or with how easy Larva made this look, he could have played standard and ended every game within 7 minutes. That would have been such a bore. | ||
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404AlphaSquad
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s_k_911
China363 Posts
So many guy say"free larva".This is a shame on sc community. Legend told his friend he didnot know what happened during the match.But as soon as his friend told him larva play with foot agaist him, Legend was root at this seat 30mins and did nothing. This was definitely not what he expect. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10627 Posts
On December 05 2017 10:34 s_k_911 wrote: Imaging next event : larva's foot vs Midas or Nada (same age and pro time as Legend) So many guy say"free larva".This is a shame on sc community. Legend told his friend he didnot know what happened during the match.But as soon as his friend told him larva play with foot agaist him, Legend was root at this seat 30mins and did nothing. This was definitely not what he expect. I'm imagining it... and I still don't care. | ||
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Midj
Canada253 Posts
(Can't believe I logged in again after like 6 years to talk about this drama) | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On December 05 2017 10:25 404AlphaSquad wrote: I don't really see the big deal. Behaving in condescending ways and shaming your opponents for their lack of skill, whether its in-game or in person, is part of BW culture. A simple YT search, even from Kespa players would confirm this. this is not my experience in bw at all, both on foreign and korean servers. people are for the most part very chill and polite, even if they're not all socialable. the pros x1000 were that.. they play up their personalities for their streams nowadays though, but i still think they're good/manner deep down On December 05 2017 10:38 FlaShFTW wrote: I'm imagining it... and I still don't care. so if you got a chance to play vs JD or flash, and you practiced like 2 or 3 months leading up to it... and they played with their feet against you... you wouldn't be annoyed/disappointed/jaded? it's denying you the decency of having an actual game of starcraft if someone plays with their feet.. it's ludicrously rude, he should have just left the game if he was so disinclined to play. | ||
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SpringWind
China231 Posts
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404AlphaSquad
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On December 05 2017 10:40 Endymion wrote: this is not my experience in bw at all, both on foreign and korean servers. people are for the most part very chill and polite, even if they're not all socialable. the pros x1000 were that.. they play up their personalities for their streams nowadays though, but i still think they're good/manner deep down Writing with pylons ingame, thumbing down players. Literally pulling of your t-shirt and go swimming at the beach, after you win. It all happened before without it becoming a big drama. It is just a part of this game. Even before streaming became big. This is the no-fun game where no one is "respected" unless you win and then you can have fun. On December 05 2017 10:40 Endymion wrote: so if you got a chance to play vs JD or flash, and you practiced like 2 or 3 months leading up to it... and they played with their feet against you... you wouldn't be annoyed/disappointed/jaded? it's denying you the decency of having an actual game of starcraft if someone plays with their feet.. it's ludicrously rude, he should have just left the game if he was so disinclined to play. Yes I would be annoyed and yes it is rude. However since larva is so good, he can do whatever he wants. Its how everything here works. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10627 Posts
On December 05 2017 10:40 Endymion wrote: this is not my experience in bw at all, both on foreign and korean servers. people are for the most part very chill and polite, even if they're not all socialable. the pros x1000 were that.. they play up their personalities for their streams nowadays though, but i still think they're good/manner deep down so if you got a chance to play vs JD or flash, and you practiced like 2 or 3 months leading up to it... and they played with their feet against you... you wouldn't be annoyed/disappointed/jaded? it's denying you the decency of having an actual game of starcraft if someone plays with their feet.. it's ludicrously rude, he should have just left the game if he was so disinclined to play. 1) Your hypothetical is so extreme it's not really worth it to discuss but I'll entertain it. 2) No, I really wouldn't care. If they can beat me with their feet AFTER they had already held off an all-in and I've already lost, why should I care. If anything, I would have been more impressed if Larva held off the initial all-in with his feet the entire time, rather than the end when he had already won the game. I'm looking for good Starcraft games. If someone wins a game with their feet to make the game closer, I'm all for it. In fact, it would be a good challenge because that's how much time they've put into the game where they're so superior they can do that. It's like CSGO pros in low ELO games using only deagle or zeus's. Or League of Legends where they run all TP/Smite to troll. On December 05 2017 10:46 404AlphaSquad wrote: Writing with pylons ingame, thumbing down players. Literally pulling of your t-shirt and go swimming at the beach, after you win. It all happened before without it becoming a big drama. It is just a part of this game. Even before streaming became big. This is the no-fun game where no one is "respected" unless you win and then you can have fun. Never forget the pylon heart and stasising your own units. Much I love you forever. And everyone was hyping it up if anything, not saying bad stuff. Just because you might have a fan bias towards Legend, it shouldn't get in the way of a good BM/disrespect. Scout BM was great from Bisu in his games, even if I hate Bisu with a passion, and even when I was a huge savior fan and saw FBH BMing him, I was more upset that Savior sucked rather than FBH doing pelvic thrusts at him. | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
On December 05 2017 10:46 404AlphaSquad wrote: Writing with pylons ingame, thumbing down players. Literally pulling of your t-shirt and go swimming at the beach, after you win. It all happened before without it becoming a big drama. It is just a part of this game. Even before streaming became big. This is the no-fun game where no one is "respected" unless you win and then you can have fun. So true! Since when BroodWar became snowflakes game? I have nothing against Legend but his play was really trash, his APM was twice, thrice low as Larva's. I wonder how he managed to take down Michael and Draco. | ||
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