EPTWP Larva! You had me thoroughly entertained!
Larva's Open Letter to Fans and Zotac Players - Page 3
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Frumsan
Sweden117 Posts
WP Larva! You had me thoroughly entertained! | ||
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Jealous
10357 Posts
Larva fighting! | ||
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
On December 06 2017 04:35 outscar wrote: Just ignore AquaSC, he's well known troll and BW hater. He got bored from SC2 section so he comes here to shit on everything he sees. Larva is love, Larva is life! Weren't you saying the same thing couple months ago? I just said what I think, not sure now why, won't make that mistake again | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1555 Posts
On December 06 2017 07:21 Jealous wrote: Good on Larva to not bend over backwards to apologize to Lx and show true respect to the other foreigners. Giving a hollow apology is not the mark of a man standing by his principles. Larva didn't break rules and from the sounds of things is the only one who handled the "drama" properly. Larva fighting! He tried to apologize in person since he felt doing it over phone may seem insincere but lx rejected it | ||
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kissayumi
China6 Posts
On December 06 2017 07:26 jinjin5000 wrote: He tried to apologize in person since he felt doing it over phone may seem insincere but lx rejected it First claim the Zotac official allowed him to do so then claim lx rejected his apology. Waiting to hear the third story. | ||
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TehRei
Sweden261 Posts
On December 06 2017 04:05 Djabanete wrote: /.../ Ask yourself: If you were Lx, would you fly to the tournament from China, knowing that in the end Larva would very likely defeat you? Sure. Would you fly to the tournament from China, knowing that Larva would defeat you with crossed hands or with his feet? I would not. /.../ Yes to both questions. I don't think this is a great metaphor though, for two reasons. First of all, I'm familiar with Larva and his antics (which Lx wasn't). If Larva were to beat me with conventional strategies, while acting all reserved and ultra-professional I'd be disappointed. Secondly, Lx is a much better player than me, and he also has a long history in esports. I wouldn't expect Larva to play seriously versus me when I never even reached D+ on iCCup. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With that being said, the larger issue here seems to be that Larva and Lx had widely different ideas of what sort of event this was, how they were supposed to approach it, and what was expected of them. This situation wouldn't have gotten nearly as big if the communication would've worked better. Of course, the fact that there is a language barrier makes this difficult in practice. For this reason having clear rules of conduct is essential. I honestly think this entire debacle could've been avoided at the cost of a few sentences like: "This is a laid back tournament, with the primary goal of being a fun and inclusive experience for everyone. Feel free to do crazy builds, but remember to always treat fellow players and staff members with respect. Things that are ok (but make sure everyone is in on it beforehand): _________. Things that are not ok: _________. What will happen if you do those things: ________." The fact that Larva kept on going without anyone stopping him makes it seem like there either were only vague rules ("be nice") without any explicit definitions of unacceptable behaviour, or alternatively there were clear rules, but no one knew about them. I'm not trying to deflect the blame over to the organizer though -- Larva alone is responsible for his words and actions. It's just sad to think that this could've been avoided... (Sorry for the wall of text, I'm bored and can't sleep <.<) | ||
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s_k_911
China362 Posts
See what really happened there. Lx told his friend he root in his seat for 30mins after the game. I wonder if larva apoligy at that time? | ||
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SpringWind
China231 Posts
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Jealous
10357 Posts
On December 06 2017 07:26 jinjin5000 wrote: He tried to apologize in person since he felt doing it over phone may seem insincere but lx rejected it I know, hence the latter apology would be hollow as fuck. Larva didn't sink to that level. | ||
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UltrA
48 Posts
On December 06 2017 02:02 jinjin5000 wrote: oops I forgot ultra there hellooooo Larvaaaaaaaaa , nice to meet you , you are good guy ^^ when 1v1 hahahahahhaa thanks for pictures and videos you are manner ^^ cyaaaaa in battle.net | ||
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CrymeaTerran
149 Posts
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jinjin5000
United States1555 Posts
On December 06 2017 11:58 UltrA wrote: hellooooo Larvaaaaaaaaa , nice to meet you , you are good guy ^^ when 1v1 hahahahahhaa thanks for pictures and videos you are manner ^^ cyaaaaa in battle.net I'm not larva but I can relay the msg to translator he was with haha | ||
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sc19980331
China1609 Posts
On December 06 2017 13:52 jinjin5000 wrote: I'm not larva but I can relay the msg to translator he was with haha Could you let Larva know the time that Legend sent the post on Weibo? https://weibo.com/u/2183182844 "12月4日 13:01 来自 iPhone客户端" Time stamp is December 04 13:01 GMT+8, = Dec 03 21:01 PST in LA. And could you ask Larva the exact time that he went to find Legend and offered apology? I read some posts claming Legend refused the apology first, then sent the post, which need to be clarified seriously IMHO. Thanks a lot. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10825 Posts
On December 06 2017 14:43 sc19980331 wrote: Could you let Larva know the time that Legend sent the post on Weibo? https://weibo.com/u/2183182844 "12月4日 13:01 来自 iPhone客户端" Time stamp is December 04 13:01 GMT+8, = Dec 03 21:01 PST in LA. And could you ask Larva the exact time that he went to find Legend and offered apology? I read some posts claming Legend refused the apology first, then sent the post, which need to be clarified seriously IMHO. Thanks a lot. This is getting to be like murder she wrote level of drama, I hate all of this is going on and I feel sorry for Legend but really, we should just let this go I think... | ||
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mouztod
1 Post
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jinjin5000
United States1555 Posts
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jinjin5000
United States1555 Posts
If small off comment that may be remotely negative on china on YouTube channel run by a white dude can spark outrage from thousands of Chinese, with tons of websites running article "white person talks shit on china", imagine what THIS did. If you want to know more about it, I suggest you watch channel: ADVchina. Amazing YouTube channel who speaks without any qualms about China and living there. They cover this topic often. Give this video a watch. | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
613 Posts
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sc19980331
China1609 Posts
On December 06 2017 16:12 jinjin5000 wrote: Idk exactly when he refused apology could be before or after but think you are getting bit too into this or just a murder mystery fan attempting to bring it into being an internet detective Thanks for reply. I just want to know the truth, I give my judgement based on details of truth, not rumor or imagination. I saw Larva used feet in game on twitch, so I wrote "No respect, Larva bad manner!". http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/527382-20000-zotac-cup-masters-scrm-na-sa?page=21 I insist on Larva should apologize, in this open letter every player mentioned but no Legend, not a word even an empty apology. Another point I want to know is: First response from Larva: http://m.afreecatv.com/dpfgc3/detail/0/28518609 Note: OP deleted, translation by jinjin5000 #27 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/529140-legend-latest-post-on-sina-weibo?page=2 I asked ahead of time with the organizers if I could do it or not and they said I could My question: Who are they? What did Larva ask? Then video response on youtube: translation by jinjin5000 #218 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/529176-zotac-larva-legend-incident-discussion?page=11 On getting approval: Larva also said that there may have been some miscommunication between one of Zotac staff and him since the translator wasn't there when he arrived at first. My question: Who is the staff? What did Larva talk with him/her? From a news in which this video translated in chinese, just for your ref: https://c.play.163.com/cains/?docid=D4TFI9TS00318QAR&qd=pc_adaptation Larva 坚持自己确实事先与主办方索泰的一个工作人员打过招呼，但没想到后来居然不认账了，对方说没有印象。Larva 认为此事可能由于当时没有翻译，在沟通方面出现了问题。 It said Larva insisted on he asked a ZOTAC staff in advance, but when incident happened, this staff said had no impresstion on that talk. Larva thought there's some miscommunication since the interpreter wasn't threre at that moment. | ||
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Piste
6183 Posts
Everyone should know already that Larva does stupid shit on camera, it is entertaining to some of his fans, and the rest should know that there is no need to take it personally, he just does it for his fans. Larva's presence is good for Starcraft community. I didn't see Larva vs Lx, but I saw the hillarious gif of him playing with his toes. Lx should not take it personally. If he felt offended, he should have impressed it in more manner rather than call Larva mentally ill. | ||
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