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On December 06 2017 00:11 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 00:07 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:06 Eywa- wrote:
Personally, I think this is a terrible statement by Larva... An empty apology would have been good here. A known Korean said some nice things about foreigners, I think it's enough He didn't say anything about the one person he offended  Since the foreigners he mentioned aren't the ones with the problem, it's kind of irrelevant that he mentioned them. (don't get me wrong, it's cool in a standalone context, but in this context it's like, well... You responded to everyone except for the dude you embarrassed)
He tried to apologize to Lx, but he didn't accept it, on top of that Lx insulted him. why try it again?
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On December 06 2017 00:15 sweffymo wrote:
The reason he didn't respond to Lx in this post is because he called Lx out elsewhere for not accepting his apology in person and then making a whiny post after he left which implied that Larva didn't try to apologize. We in the business call this a "dick move."
Any source on the order of offering the apology, refusing it etc.? The original post by Legend had no mention of any apology and I think it's important for the discussion
On December 06 2017 00:27 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 00:11 Eywa- wrote:On December 06 2017 00:07 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:06 Eywa- wrote:
Personally, I think this is a terrible statement by Larva... An empty apology would have been good here. A known Korean said some nice things about foreigners, I think it's enough He didn't say anything about the one person he offended Since the foreigners he mentioned aren't the ones with the problem, it's kind of irrelevant that he mentioned them. (don't get me wrong, it's cool in a standalone context, but in this context it's like, well... You responded to everyone except for the dude you embarrassed) He tried to apologize to Lx, but he didn't accept it, on top of that Lx insulted him. why try it again?
Wow, I think Larva being a memer of that caliber would take insults like a man and not like a crybaby like many call Legend
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On December 06 2017 00:28 aQuaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 00:15 sweffymo wrote:
The reason he didn't respond to Lx in this post is because he called Lx out elsewhere for not accepting his apology in person and then making a whiny post after he left which implied that Larva didn't try to apologize. We in the business call this a "dick move." Any source on the order of offering the apology, refusing it etc.? The original post by Legend had no mention of any apology and I think it's important for the discussion Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 00:27 duke91 wrote:On December 06 2017 00:11 Eywa- wrote:On December 06 2017 00:07 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:06 Eywa- wrote:
Personally, I think this is a terrible statement by Larva... An empty apology would have been good here. A known Korean said some nice things about foreigners, I think it's enough He didn't say anything about the one person he offended Since the foreigners he mentioned aren't the ones with the problem, it's kind of irrelevant that he mentioned them. (don't get me wrong, it's cool in a standalone context, but in this context it's like, well... You responded to everyone except for the dude you embarrassed) He tried to apologize to Lx, but he didn't accept it, on top of that Lx insulted him. why try it again? Wow, I think Larva being a memer of that caliber would take insults like a man and not like a crybaby like many call Legend
He is like opposite of crybaby. He tried to apologize, lx refused, then F him. Is he supposed to beg him to accept his apology? You are beyond ridiculous. I am happy larva enjoyed his time with foreigners. Also about half of foreigners who participated in the event posted on TL saying how great person Larva actually is. Larva handles this situation like a man, not crybaby lx who made Chinese people to storm the internet with massive spam.
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On December 06 2017 00:28 aQuaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 00:15 sweffymo wrote:
The reason he didn't respond to Lx in this post is because he called Lx out elsewhere for not accepting his apology in person and then making a whiny post after he left which implied that Larva didn't try to apologize. We in the business call this a "dick move." Any source on the order of offering the apology, refusing it etc.? The original post by Legend had no mention of any apology and I think it's important for the discussion Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 00:27 duke91 wrote:On December 06 2017 00:11 Eywa- wrote:On December 06 2017 00:07 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:06 Eywa- wrote:
Personally, I think this is a terrible statement by Larva... An empty apology would have been good here. A known Korean said some nice things about foreigners, I think it's enough He didn't say anything about the one person he offended Since the foreigners he mentioned aren't the ones with the problem, it's kind of irrelevant that he mentioned them. (don't get me wrong, it's cool in a standalone context, but in this context it's like, well... You responded to everyone except for the dude you embarrassed) He tried to apologize to Lx, but he didn't accept it, on top of that Lx insulted him. why try it again? Wow, I think Larva being a memer of that caliber would take insults like a man and not like a crybaby like many call Legend
Larva went in person to apologize but the other dude instead went to his bed crying and complaining on Webo...
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On December 06 2017 00:28 aQuaSC wrote:
Wow, I think Larva being a memer of that caliber would take insults like a man and not like a crybaby like many call Legend
Do you actually even know what being a "crybaby" insinuates? Maybe you should look up what words mean before using them.
Hint: It has nothing to do with how Larva represented himself or his statements.
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On December 06 2017 01:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 00:28 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:15 sweffymo wrote:
The reason he didn't respond to Lx in this post is because he called Lx out elsewhere for not accepting his apology in person and then making a whiny post after he left which implied that Larva didn't try to apologize. We in the business call this a "dick move." Any source on the order of offering the apology, refusing it etc.? The original post by Legend had no mention of any apology and I think it's important for the discussion On December 06 2017 00:27 duke91 wrote:On December 06 2017 00:11 Eywa- wrote:On December 06 2017 00:07 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:06 Eywa- wrote:
Personally, I think this is a terrible statement by Larva... An empty apology would have been good here. A known Korean said some nice things about foreigners, I think it's enough He didn't say anything about the one person he offended Since the foreigners he mentioned aren't the ones with the problem, it's kind of irrelevant that he mentioned them. (don't get me wrong, it's cool in a standalone context, but in this context it's like, well... You responded to everyone except for the dude you embarrassed) He tried to apologize to Lx, but he didn't accept it, on top of that Lx insulted him. why try it again? Wow, I think Larva being a memer of that caliber would take insults like a man and not like a crybaby like many call Legend Larva went in person to apologize but the other dude instead went to his bed crying and complaining on Webo...
how did he apologize in person if neither speak any English? He said "sori sori sori sori"? No shit it wasn't accepted.
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On December 06 2017 01:24 juvenal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 01:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On December 06 2017 00:28 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:15 sweffymo wrote:
The reason he didn't respond to Lx in this post is because he called Lx out elsewhere for not accepting his apology in person and then making a whiny post after he left which implied that Larva didn't try to apologize. We in the business call this a "dick move." Any source on the order of offering the apology, refusing it etc.? The original post by Legend had no mention of any apology and I think it's important for the discussion On December 06 2017 00:27 duke91 wrote:On December 06 2017 00:11 Eywa- wrote:On December 06 2017 00:07 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:06 Eywa- wrote:
Personally, I think this is a terrible statement by Larva... An empty apology would have been good here. A known Korean said some nice things about foreigners, I think it's enough He didn't say anything about the one person he offended Since the foreigners he mentioned aren't the ones with the problem, it's kind of irrelevant that he mentioned them. (don't get me wrong, it's cool in a standalone context, but in this context it's like, well... You responded to everyone except for the dude you embarrassed) He tried to apologize to Lx, but he didn't accept it, on top of that Lx insulted him. why try it again? Wow, I think Larva being a memer of that caliber would take insults like a man and not like a crybaby like many call Legend Larva went in person to apologize but the other dude instead went to his bed crying and complaining on Webo... how did he apologize in person if neither speak any English? He said "sori sori sori sori"? No shit it wasn't accepted.
Your trolling is next level. Congrats☺ because you are trolling, arent you?
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I don't necessarily think he needs to apologize to Legend, but seeing as he wrote a line about pretty much everyone else it would've been nice. Apart from that it seems like he's handling the fallout in a mature way. I half expected him to escalate the situation further tbh.
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On December 06 2017 01:33 Netto. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 01:24 juvenal wrote:On December 06 2017 01:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On December 06 2017 00:28 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:15 sweffymo wrote:
The reason he didn't respond to Lx in this post is because he called Lx out elsewhere for not accepting his apology in person and then making a whiny post after he left which implied that Larva didn't try to apologize. We in the business call this a "dick move." Any source on the order of offering the apology, refusing it etc.? The original post by Legend had no mention of any apology and I think it's important for the discussion On December 06 2017 00:27 duke91 wrote:On December 06 2017 00:11 Eywa- wrote:On December 06 2017 00:07 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:06 Eywa- wrote:
Personally, I think this is a terrible statement by Larva... An empty apology would have been good here. A known Korean said some nice things about foreigners, I think it's enough He didn't say anything about the one person he offended Since the foreigners he mentioned aren't the ones with the problem, it's kind of irrelevant that he mentioned them. (don't get me wrong, it's cool in a standalone context, but in this context it's like, well... You responded to everyone except for the dude you embarrassed) He tried to apologize to Lx, but he didn't accept it, on top of that Lx insulted him. why try it again? Wow, I think Larva being a memer of that caliber would take insults like a man and not like a crybaby like many call Legend Larva went in person to apologize but the other dude instead went to his bed crying and complaining on Webo... how did he apologize in person if neither speak any English? He said "sori sori sori sori"? No shit it wasn't accepted. Your trolling is next level. Congrats☺ because you are trolling, arent you?
now try your best to come up with an actual answer to how Larva could possibly have apologized.
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On December 06 2017 00:28 aQuaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 00:15 sweffymo wrote:
The reason he didn't respond to Lx in this post is because he called Lx out elsewhere for not accepting his apology in person and then making a whiny post after he left which implied that Larva didn't try to apologize. We in the business call this a "dick move." Any source on the order of offering the apology, refusing it etc.? The original post by Legend had no mention of any apology and I think it's important for the discussion
Yep, we need to clarify the timeline.
According to my post #411
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/527382-20000-zotac-cup-masters-scrm-na-sa?page=21
Time stamp is December 04 2017 04:27 GMT when I saw Larva's feet BM then wrote the post.
Check Legend's Weibo
https://weibo.com/u/2183182844
"12月4日 13:01 来自 iPhone客户端"
Time stamp of OP is December 04 13:01 GMT+8
So, the time window for Larva to find Legend and offer the apology is from 04:27 to 05:01 GMT IMHO. But at that time he's taking winner interview with casters, right? While Legend was told by friend in China what happened, then wrote the post on Weibo, right?
Please correct me if I was wrong, thanks.
Edit:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/529171-larva-zotac-my-anger
iNcontroL wrote:
He apparently went out to get drinks with the casters later that night at like midnight and I wasn't there..
So I think Larva found Legend between interview end and midnight, at New Egg studio? Or Hotel?
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So Kobe dunked on Yao Ming.. Whats the big freaking issue lol
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On December 06 2017 01:35 juvenal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 01:33 Netto. wrote:On December 06 2017 01:24 juvenal wrote:On December 06 2017 01:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On December 06 2017 00:28 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:15 sweffymo wrote:
The reason he didn't respond to Lx in this post is because he called Lx out elsewhere for not accepting his apology in person and then making a whiny post after he left which implied that Larva didn't try to apologize. We in the business call this a "dick move." Any source on the order of offering the apology, refusing it etc.? The original post by Legend had no mention of any apology and I think it's important for the discussion On December 06 2017 00:27 duke91 wrote:On December 06 2017 00:11 Eywa- wrote:On December 06 2017 00:07 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:06 Eywa- wrote:
Personally, I think this is a terrible statement by Larva... An empty apology would have been good here. A known Korean said some nice things about foreigners, I think it's enough He didn't say anything about the one person he offended Since the foreigners he mentioned aren't the ones with the problem, it's kind of irrelevant that he mentioned them. (don't get me wrong, it's cool in a standalone context, but in this context it's like, well... You responded to everyone except for the dude you embarrassed) He tried to apologize to Lx, but he didn't accept it, on top of that Lx insulted him. why try it again? Wow, I think Larva being a memer of that caliber would take insults like a man and not like a crybaby like many call Legend Larva went in person to apologize but the other dude instead went to his bed crying and complaining on Webo... how did he apologize in person if neither speak any English? He said "sori sori sori sori"? No shit it wasn't accepted. Your trolling is next level. Congrats☺ because you are trolling, arent you? now try your best to come up with an actual answer to how Larva could possibly have apologized.
I wont because I dont care.
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I met Legend in 2008 during wcg and he was a pretty chill and fun guy. He also knew very basic English and we had some poker for fun (no money, just beers) with the other players and bw staff (mostly wgt back then).
I cant imagine him not understanding a simple word like sorry. Obviously ths was almost 10 years ago and people change but I think there was something that hurt him, maybe a misunderstanding or something. Larva seems like a chill guy too.
Chinese and Korean netizens are notoriously toxic and drama oriented so it is not impossible that the situation got out of hand due to external factors too.
Anyways it s kinda sad.
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You may don’t know how impudent and rude the Koreans were. Plenty of Japanese,Chinese and Taiwanese have bad impression of Koreans. It’s concept differences. I think this might be a reason why Chinese fans are so angry.
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oops I forgot ultra there
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Haha Larva is amazing.
He's so full of love <3<3<3.
On December 04 2017 18:37 thinkinger wrote:
I hope you will say the same thing when Beijing nukes Seoul or Copenhagen.
The Chinese about to retaliate!
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On December 06 2017 01:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2017 00:28 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:15 sweffymo wrote:
The reason he didn't respond to Lx in this post is because he called Lx out elsewhere for not accepting his apology in person and then making a whiny post after he left which implied that Larva didn't try to apologize. We in the business call this a "dick move." Any source on the order of offering the apology, refusing it etc.? The original post by Legend had no mention of any apology and I think it's important for the discussion On December 06 2017 00:27 duke91 wrote:On December 06 2017 00:11 Eywa- wrote:On December 06 2017 00:07 aQuaSC wrote:On December 06 2017 00:06 Eywa- wrote:
Personally, I think this is a terrible statement by Larva... An empty apology would have been good here. A known Korean said some nice things about foreigners, I think it's enough He didn't say anything about the one person he offended Since the foreigners he mentioned aren't the ones with the problem, it's kind of irrelevant that he mentioned them. (don't get me wrong, it's cool in a standalone context, but in this context it's like, well... You responded to everyone except for the dude you embarrassed) He tried to apologize to Lx, but he didn't accept it, on top of that Lx insulted him. why try it again? Wow, I think Larva being a memer of that caliber would take insults like a man and not like a crybaby like many call Legend Larva went in person to apologize but the other dude instead went to his bed crying and complaining on Webo... Oh really? I hadnt heard he went to apologize in person
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On December 06 2017 01:55 stevech1024 wrote:
You may don’t know how impudent and rude the Koreans were. Plenty of Japanese,Chinese and Taiwanese have bad impression of Koreans. It’s concept differences. I think this might be a reason why Chinese fans are so angry.
The same thing can be said about Chinese, maybe even worse but people choose not to say that, because you don't generalize an entire nation of people like what you do here, typical angry china nationalist fanboy.
The total lack of self-awareness is astounding with you people. Hopefully, not all billion of chinese people aren't like that... right?
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I'm not trying to crucify Larva, as this ultimately isn't that big a deal, but...
A showmatch is a competition. It's lighthearted, but people are spending time and money on it because they hope for some good BW performed with a competitive spirit. There is room for funny chatting between the players and there is room for unorthodox strategies, but a basic level of professional competition is expected, or else it's a waste of time.
Ask yourself: If you were Lx, would you fly to the tournament from China, knowing that in the end Larva would very likely defeat you? Sure. Would you fly to the tournament from China, knowing that Larva would defeat you with crossed hands or with his feet? I would not.
There's nothing wrong with a circus, but if I go to a BW event I'll be disappointed if it turns out that it's a circus instead.
Behaving with a professional, competitive spirit is a minimum requirement for participation in a showmatch or tournament. Larva may have gotten laughs (at Lx's expense), but he did not meet the minimum requirement that would have made the final match worthwhile.
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Just ignore AquaSC, he's well known troll and BW hater. He got bored from SC2 section so he comes here to shit on everything he sees.
Larva is love, Larva is life!
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