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upro)wraith
Profile Joined May 2014
Israel64 Posts
March 26 2017 09:38 GMT
#201
On March 26 2017 18:30 CruelZeratul wrote:
Honestly I'm a little bit disappointed. I really hoped and thought there would be some kind of 'new player' mode which would make the whole UI less tedious. No one except oldschool BW players wants single building and 24 unit selection per hotkey group and no smartcasting. For (potentionally) new players and casual players a mode where this would have been made easier and more like SC2 would have been a great addition.


The game developers deliberately limited the size of control groups for strategic purposes.

Warcraft 3 was released at 2003 with the same concept in mind. that's why this will not be changed.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-26 09:40:21
March 26 2017 09:39 GMT
#202
On March 26 2017 18:20 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 17:52 JungleTerrain wrote:
On March 26 2017 17:18 chrisolo wrote:
Ok seriously guys. The announced stuff is better than expected. And even if people will cry about the sprite limitation removal, please just acknowledge that Blizzard did an amazing job so far. Maybe valks will be stronger now and it is kind of a balance related update, but keep calm and wait to see how it pans out first, before jumping on the hate train.

I was really scared that Blizzard would screw this up majorly, but if they keep their word they managed to make this as good as possible.


Oh my god. Imagine the change this could have.

TvZ: valks can be used reliably to get air dominance, similar to corsairs in PvZ.

TvP: mass valks will actually be a counter to carriers. Imagine the interceptors all dying to some valks in the blink of an eye.

TvT: mass BCs and mass Wraiths in the late game are basically nerfed. Maybe players will opt for BCs over Wraiths more since Wraiths are more fragile

You'll still be able to do BC and Wraith just like usual, it wasnt super uncommon to see 3-4 valks mixed in regardless.

If you mass valks vs carriers you're going to lose lmao, you're suddenly stuck with a lot of supply that does absolutely nothing

TvZ some valks were used at times but not super extensively i think

Correct me if i'm wrong here but valks are explosive damage.They're pretty damn lousy against heavily armored capital ships but are good against light units like mutalisks and wraiths.Like i said before they have won me a couple of games in TVT against wraiths but they can still get picked off quick by cloaked wraiths focus firing if you're caught off guard or the opponent has spaced his wraiths out well.

.They're pricey and in TvZ you're better off spending those resources on vessels.The bug fix won't make much difference to how much the valkyrie is used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
March 26 2017 09:40 GMT
#203
Its funny how they promote gorgeous 4k ultra HD graphics, when even retard can see models are drawn lazy, blurred and without details. Blizzard did shitty job again... Maybe they need to stop ruining starcraft 1 once and for all.
Luv ya BroodWar!
upro)wraith
Profile Joined May 2014
Israel64 Posts
March 26 2017 09:42 GMT
#204
On March 26 2017 18:39 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 18:20 arb wrote:
On March 26 2017 17:52 JungleTerrain wrote:
On March 26 2017 17:18 chrisolo wrote:
Ok seriously guys. The announced stuff is better than expected. And even if people will cry about the sprite limitation removal, please just acknowledge that Blizzard did an amazing job so far. Maybe valks will be stronger now and it is kind of a balance related update, but keep calm and wait to see how it pans out first, before jumping on the hate train.

I was really scared that Blizzard would screw this up majorly, but if they keep their word they managed to make this as good as possible.


Oh my god. Imagine the change this could have.

TvZ: valks can be used reliably to get air dominance, similar to corsairs in PvZ.

TvP: mass valks will actually be a counter to carriers. Imagine the interceptors all dying to some valks in the blink of an eye.

TvT: mass BCs and mass Wraiths in the late game are basically nerfed. Maybe players will opt for BCs over Wraiths more since Wraiths are more fragile

You'll still be able to do BC and Wraith just like usual, it wasnt super uncommon to see 3-4 valks mixed in regardless.

If you mass valks vs carriers you're going to lose lmao, you're suddenly stuck with a lot of supply that does absolutely nothing

TvZ some valks were used at times but not super extensively i think

Correct me if i'm wrong here but valks are explosive damage.They're pretty damn lousy against heavily armored capital ships but are good against light units like mutalisks and wraiths.Like i said before they have won me a couple of games in TVT against wraiths but they can still get picked off quick by cloaked wraiths focus firing if you're caught off guard or the opponent has spaced his wraiths out well.

.They're pricey and in TvZ you're better off spending those resources on vessels.The bug fix won't make much difference to how much the valkyrie is used.


It might make TVT air battles in the late game braindead. in that case, the sprite bug should be reintroduced.
Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
March 26 2017 09:46 GMT
#205
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

Time to see if I can get better at BW again, so excited!
Flash: "Why am I so good?" *sob sob*
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
March 26 2017 09:46 GMT
#206
On March 26 2017 18:34 Netto. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 18:30 CruelZeratul wrote:
No one except oldschool BW players wants single building and 24 unit selection per hotkey group and no smartcasting.


Man just try the game first. You just proved you never played it and you are disappointed that the changes are mostly for ppl who are actually playing the game rather than those who only complain about it.


I played the game 10-15 years ago for the first time and I already didnt't like that.


On March 26 2017 18:38 upro)wraith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 18:30 CruelZeratul wrote:
Honestly I'm a little bit disappointed. I really hoped and thought there would be some kind of 'new player' mode which would make the whole UI less tedious. No one except oldschool BW players wants single building and 24 unit selection per hotkey group and no smartcasting. For (potentionally) new players and casual players a mode where this would have been made easier and more like SC2 would have been a great addition.


The game developers deliberately limited the size of control groups for strategic purposes.

Warcraft 3 was released at 2003 with the same concept in mind. that's why this will not be changed.


I know why they want to keep it but I don't see why there shouldn't be an OPTIONAL second mode where only players who are using that mode play against each other with easier UI handling. If people want an influx of new competitive players
something needs to be done to make it easier to get into the game because most people already find SC2 too much of a hassle to control.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 26 2017 09:47 GMT
#207
On March 26 2017 18:38 Ars0n_ wrote:
Is there a vod up of the presentation up yet?

Found some on AfreecaTV.

http://afreeca.tv/36855042/v/63870 announcement I think

http://afreeca.tv/36855042/v/63879 showmatches I think
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
March 26 2017 09:49 GMT
#208
On March 26 2017 18:40 _Animus_ wrote:
Its funny how they promote gorgeous 4k ultra HD graphics, when even retard can see models are drawn lazy, blurred and without details. Blizzard did shitty job again... Maybe they need to stop ruining starcraft 1 once and for all.


The good thing is that we actually don't need to switch if you we don't like it. Because of cross-compability, and free BW we can simply stick to good old BW, but with matchmaking and no lag
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
March 26 2017 09:50 GMT
#209
On March 26 2017 18:06 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 18:02 Ancestral wrote:
On March 26 2017 17:34 Lucumo wrote:
As expected, it looks pretty shitty.

(Can't embed .webm.)
https://static.starcraft.com/videos/pro1-hd-264f7896d6b2507ecf4b777d945fb7ec2066ac0a0750bd3efa5c76e0d1d1746190f7f0ca2b6d0ef4531a06ecc0050a7d839e7d8aaea930a79f4d2912030c938b.webm


It's not meant to look impressive by modern standards.

Does CS?

It's just to improve compatibility and functionality on modern systems - which is extremely welcome.

No, I mean it looks worse than BW.

Vultures are...eh. It looks all pretty off, especially the Protoss explosions which I linked first.
https://static.starcraft.com/videos/terran-base-hd-9c95874b8df3892b3b1620e3cf53cb6e60f10eff9f6a96bbebb305e5bb4e22b9ad94fbc2eb609c3a725bc783d113d71970afb5e52a5b77f469434bd72d01fbc5.webm


On a 4k 16 screen, I'll take the remake. Especially if it actually works properly rather than crashing, graphical glitches, etc.

640x480 is just too much of a burden.

And besides, BW was never about the graphics, although they were clean and easily identifiable, which is important.

Unless it's difficult to see what's going on, which the screenshots I've seen don't lead me to believe it will be, there's no problem.

It's like, who cares what chess pieces look like as long as they're easily identifiable?
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
March 26 2017 09:50 GMT
#210
Matchmaking is sooooooooo welcome. Is this part of the free patch as well?
eery1
Profile Joined June 2010
52 Posts
March 26 2017 09:53 GMT
#211
I'm actually excited for this! Unpopular opinion probably but I was hoping for sim city adjacent buildings to be considered a wall just cuz it's a hassle to memorize that per map but that says more about my lazy self than anything. Great to see this support for BW (too little too late? better late than never)
Facet
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
March 26 2017 09:55 GMT
#212
I got a couple of nice ideas for my hotkey setup.
Now promoting/modding/bouncing for Mafia on a Plane. Get in touch with me for your forum mafia aptitude test, but first prove you're not a cheater by gathering and playing osu! or typeracer together with the others.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 26 2017 09:55 GMT
#213
On March 26 2017 18:40 _Animus_ wrote:
Its funny how they promote gorgeous 4k ultra HD graphics, when even retard can see models are drawn lazy, blurred and without details. Blizzard did shitty job again... Maybe they need to stop ruining starcraft 1 once and for all.

any 4K HD game/movie looks shit on 23" monitor, you already said the reasons, because 23" is too small for 4K HD.

If you still don't believe that. pick any 4k HD picture, use the program "paint", try to make that picture smaller (from 100% to 50%).
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
March 26 2017 09:55 GMT
#214
On March 26 2017 18:50 Little-Chimp wrote:
Matchmaking is sooooooooo welcome. Is this part of the free patch as well?


From what I understood, it is basically the same game. The "HD" graphics update is payed only. So you can play HD vs Non HD or even switch graphics mode within the game with a single button click according to the interview.
upro)wraith
Profile Joined May 2014
Israel64 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-26 09:59:17
March 26 2017 09:57 GMT
#215
Vulture and wraiths patrol micro with 'W', siege tank mode with 'E'. that sounds pretty broken to me XD.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19133 Posts
March 26 2017 09:58 GMT
#216
Not ready for this, what this game still evokes emotionally within me is just staggering. Been a part of my life for 20+ years now and has dominated my gaming experience throughout.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-26 09:59:55
March 26 2017 09:59 GMT
#217
On March 26 2017 18:57 upro)wraith wrote:
Vulture patrol micro with 'W' and siege tank mode with 'E'. that sounds pretty broken to me XD.


Yupp.. Hold micro, m control, patrol control isnt gonna be hard anymore. I dont even need to practice
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
March 26 2017 10:01 GMT
#218
On March 26 2017 18:57 upro)wraith wrote:
Vulture and wraiths patrol micro with 'W', siege tank mode with 'E'. that sounds pretty broken to me XD.


They should just give people a 5% ladder point boosts if they play with original keybinds instead of customized :D
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Facet
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
March 26 2017 10:01 GMT
#219
;got a c@pl ov nais aidi@z for mai niu hotkii set@p. ;eksaited èf
Now promoting/modding/bouncing for Mafia on a Plane. Get in touch with me for your forum mafia aptitude test, but first prove you're not a cheater by gathering and playing osu! or typeracer together with the others.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-26 10:02:52
March 26 2017 10:01 GMT
#220
On March 26 2017 18:55 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 18:40 _Animus_ wrote:
Its funny how they promote gorgeous 4k ultra HD graphics, when even retard can see models are drawn lazy, blurred and without details. Blizzard did shitty job again... Maybe they need to stop ruining starcraft 1 once and for all.

any 4K HD game/movie looks shit on 23" monitor, you already said the reasons, because 23" is too small for 4K HD.

If you still don't believe that. pick any 4k HD picture, use the program "paint", try to make that picture smaller (from 100% to 50%).

You mean blizzard made this game only for 23+ monitors and on their screen graphics looks non blurred and unexisting details start to appear? I doubt that. The good thing is as duke91 said its cross compatable so i can enjoy the starcraft that i like.
Luv ya BroodWar!
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