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Brood War LD Screenshots revealed and interview

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Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
August 13 2016 16:30 GMT
#1
Brood War LD starts where BWSD left off. Introducing brand new Low Definition graphics for your favourite game. Why settle for 32 bit artwork when you can enjoy 16 bit instead?

Screenshots

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Interview

We caught up with the Marketing team to get some juicy details about gameplay, features and to gain insight about the creative process behind this remix.

Q: Hi, we are very excited about this new artwork. Lets just explode with a bunch of random fun questions we are dying to know the answer to! Is it 2d? 3d? Who are the artists? What style of art are you going for? And are there going to be new tilesets?
A: Thankyou for opening this dialogue.

Q: No worries. So continuing on…
A: We take it onboard and will discuss this further internally.

Q: Oh er, OK? If we aren’t going to talk about anything what shall we do then?
A: We will take steps accordingly.

Q: On another topic, robots fascinate me. If its considered polite, may I inquire what model are you?
A: Your contributions enable us to improve our execution of delivering high quality entertainment.

Q: Xbox record that.
A: …
[pause]
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“Recording”


Q: Would you like to hire me?
A: We don’t like Higher definition, we prefer lower definition.

Q: No. Look. Ah nevermind. Whats your favourite pizza?
A: Going forward we will continue to iterate on our products to ensure a level of satisfaction.

Q: I don’t feel like we are really getting anywhere so lets wrap it up with Any Last Words to your fans?
A: A spotty intern will be assigned to monitor developments and report if someone posts a message in all caps. Also, thankyou for supporting me. I will practice hard and try to show better games in the future.
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Card note: I just want to be absolutely clear, this post does not have a hidden agenda. It's purely for fun.

Dont look in this spoiler if you want to guess/work out what the 2 maps are
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/503097-map-2niobe-1v1
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/471019-map-4latin-quarter-1v1

Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
August 13 2016 16:41 GMT
#2
Is that Pokemon?
Jaedrik
Profile Joined June 2015
113 Posts
August 13 2016 17:22 GMT
#3
Top joke, friend.
Nailed it with the soulless PR answers.
And, yes, it does look like the Pokémons.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 13 2016 18:11 GMT
#4
Pretty accurate developer interview!
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
imp42
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
398 Posts
August 14 2016 00:31 GMT
#5
I don't understand why Blizzard releases a LD version before releasing HD? Also the maps are ridiculously imbalanced towards Terran (just look at top right of latin quarter). Anyways, this only shows that Blizzard cares more about Terran than the other races.

Ok, they say they will take the appropiate steps and discuss further internally. But I don't believe this. I mean, they even admit it by saying they assigned an intern.

Also I never get any beta-invites. Screw Blizzard for not involving the community in this!
50 pts Copper League
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-14 01:22:45
August 14 2016 01:21 GMT
#6
Cant wait for SEGA Mega Drive and SNES ports. And i would like to see the full release of the 8bit bw

Luv ya BroodWar!
Airking990
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States193 Posts
August 14 2016 01:44 GMT
#7
On August 14 2016 01:41 Wrath wrote:
Is that Pokemon?

yes, those are pokemon ruby/sapphire/emerald/firered/leafgreen tilesets
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 14 2016 10:40 GMT
#8
that OP is gonna be pretty close to the first interview regarding BW HD
Broodwar for life!
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
August 14 2016 13:50 GMT
#9
I found a leak of BW HD guys!!!!!
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
August 15 2016 05:28 GMT
#10
haha this is great
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 15 2016 06:29 GMT
#11
Brilliant OP. Pictures were funny, totally lost it at the interview!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
August 15 2016 07:07 GMT
#12
Should have posted the actual first screen shots of SC vanilla
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
August 16 2016 00:40 GMT
#13
The tileset is made from scratch, pixel by pixel. It’s a work in progress but you get a taste.
Ofcourse its heavily inspired by Pokemon 3rd gen, Zelda, Mario etc and I used them as reference. The tree is similar to Zelda Minish Cap for example.

This is a brand new tileset though. New patterns, new transition edges, new palette. Making sure all the edges of the tiles match up properly with smooth transitions is quite tricky. Im using less colours overall as well. I could have done it in a different style; indeed Ive studied many different games. But I chose to do it like this because its attractive, timeless, space efficient/information dense, and readable from a ‘hella tight gameplay’/esport point of view.
Infact Ive tried to push that last point a lot while hopefully still retaining some aesthetic qualities.

For example; Ive designed the tileset so that a scene can be rotated upside down or sideways and you could then refresh the visuals and the map would still function which is not how the other tilesets work. They have a lot of tiles where different things overlap (which looks great but only works from one angle). And they have tiles where you can walk but you wouldn’t be able to if it was inverted. So Ive tried to make that clearer without falling back on invisible walls or anything.
The original style could work in a multiplayer game where it was always left vs right spawns and in a game where you cant manipulate terrain. But I want the tiles to work even if its top vs bottom spawns and in games where players can manipulate the terrain (think 2d Minecraft). Note the house tiles are just included in here for show (they are my own palette but the style isnt compatible with fully player buildable terrain necessarily). Also the paving tiles are not very different from the originals in terms of pattern.

Another example; if you look at the fencing on the second picture you can see its very versatile. The pokemon tileset cant do complex configurations like this as they only made the basic directional change tiles. Also its vertical fence lines are offcentre which creates problems. Overall it means the pokemon fence tiles only work if you use simple fixed shapes that the player cant alter ingame.

The colours that are currently being used are very high saturation and will probably need a revisit.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
August 16 2016 01:29 GMT
#14
Fuck, clearly terran favored.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 16 2016 02:42 GMT
#15
On August 15 2016 16:07 Deleuze wrote:
Should have posted the actual first screen shots of SC vanilla

I'm surprised that nobody has made an "Orcs in Space" mod for Warcraft 2 recreating those first screenshots, but then again I only did 10 seconds of Googling to try finding that.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
August 16 2016 22:45 GMT
#16
Easier to explain with pictures...
This first pic shows some of the experiments I went through to get the single cliff tile:
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The next one shows how different the dirt pattern tile is. And its a knock on effect as all the tiles that join on to this one have to be created too.
[image loading]

And the last pic shows how the classic tilesets fencing is limited. My set isnt the simplest way of doing it but it works quite well.
[image loading]

Anyway, glad you like the OP. Took a long time to arrange those, tile by tile.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
August 17 2016 12:35 GMT
#17
Bump
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
imp42
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
398 Posts
August 17 2016 17:28 GMT
#18
On August 16 2016 09:40 CardinalAllin wrote:
The tileset is made from scratch, pixel by pixel. It’s a work in progress but you get a taste.
Ofcourse its heavily inspired by Pokemon 3rd gen, Zelda, Mario etc and I used them as reference. The tree is similar to Zelda Minish Cap for example.

This is a brand new tileset though. New patterns, new transition edges, new palette. Making sure all the edges of the tiles match up properly with smooth transitions is quite tricky. Im using less colours overall as well. I could have done it in a different style; indeed Ive studied many different games. But I chose to do it like this because its attractive, timeless, space efficient/information dense, and readable from a ‘hella tight gameplay’/esport point of view.
Infact Ive tried to push that last point a lot while hopefully still retaining some aesthetic qualities.

For example; Ive designed the tileset so that a scene can be rotated upside down or sideways and you could then refresh the visuals and the map would still function which is not how the other tilesets work. They have a lot of tiles where different things overlap (which looks great but only works from one angle). And they have tiles where you can walk but you wouldn’t be able to if it was inverted. So Ive tried to make that clearer without falling back on invisible walls or anything.
The original style could work in a multiplayer game where it was always left vs right spawns and in a game where you cant manipulate terrain. But I want the tiles to work even if its top vs bottom spawns and in games where players can manipulate the terrain (think 2d Minecraft). Note the house tiles are just included in here for show (they are my own palette but the style isnt compatible with fully player buildable terrain necessarily). Also the paving tiles are not very different from the originals in terms of pattern.

Another example; if you look at the fencing on the second picture you can see its very versatile. The pokemon tileset cant do complex configurations like this as they only made the basic directional change tiles. Also its vertical fence lines are offcentre which creates problems. Overall it means the pokemon fence tiles only work if you use simple fixed shapes that the player cant alter ingame.

The colours that are currently being used are very high saturation and will probably need a revisit.

You are clearly insane. Who would put so much effort into something like that??

I mean that as a compliment and respectfully accept you as a worthy competitor.
Let me shamelessly point toward the following thread:
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/hearthstone/482316-comprehensive-golden-cards-ranking

It is the current holder of a very special award, given by FeiLing.
50 pts Copper League
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
August 17 2016 20:51 GMT
#19
it is cool
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 17 2016 22:50 GMT
#20
i laughed
can i get my estro logo back pls
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
August 18 2016 02:40 GMT
#21
Can we have an unofficial LD Fighting Spirit Mod/UMS?
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
JensWalker
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada20 Posts
August 18 2016 05:59 GMT
#22
funny stuff. Kind of inspiring
herO
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
August 18 2016 09:14 GMT
#23
catch zerg pokemons on these maps and protoss mewtwo
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4012 Posts
August 18 2016 09:36 GMT
#24
Its retarded that Blizzard spends resources on this, i dont understand, how many people are there with such hardware that cannot run regular starcraft? Who are they doing this for?! Graphics are so bad, i dont understand.
Drone is a way of living
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-18 09:40:14
August 18 2016 09:38 GMT
#25
On August 18 2016 18:36 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Its retarded that Blizzard spends resources on this, i dont understand, how many people are there with such hardware that cannot run regular starcraft? Who are they doing this for?! Graphics are so bad, i dont understand.

Gotta milk that TI-92 crowd, which got left behind by all that other major AAA studios

Also consider how many pre pentium computer there are still out there, like in nuclear power plants, metall factories and old train controlling computers

Imo doing 16 bit is a big mistake, 8 bit would have been better. no one needs 16 bit really
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4012 Posts
August 18 2016 09:46 GMT
#26
On August 18 2016 18:38 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
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On August 18 2016 18:36 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Its retarded that Blizzard spends resources on this, i dont understand, how many people are there with such hardware that cannot run regular starcraft? Who are they doing this for?! Graphics are so bad, i dont understand.

Gotta milk that TI-92 crowd, which got left behind by all that other major AAA studios

Also consider how many pre pentium computer there are still out there, like in nuclear power plants, metall factories and old train controlling computers

Imo doing 16 bit is a big mistake, 8 bit would have been better. no one needs 16 bit really


If they dont own modern computers they dont have money to pay for starcraft. Blizzard is again making huge mistake, its a flying siege tank and shooting pylon story again.
Drone is a way of living
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 18 2016 10:02 GMT
#27
This is amazing, well played.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
August 21 2016 01:50 GMT
#28
I made the pics partly/mostly for the OP but I didnt make the tileset for the OP.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-14 15:00:41
August 14 2017 14:57 GMT
#29
The remaster launches in a couple of hours, thought this was a good time to give this thread a bump, as a lot of old faces have returned recently etc.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
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