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Graphix
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States208 Posts
July 17 2016 14:28 GMT
#1
I got really hyped watching the GSL stream of brood war today and I just bought and installed brood war. I have literally never played brood war before. I launched it for the first time and the resolution is really small. Also how do i connect to the ladder? (ICCUP?)

~Jaedong Forever~
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 17 2016 14:55 GMT
#2
I don't know your level so I recommend playing the campaign first to get a feel for the game and maybe try to beat the AI.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Graphix
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States208 Posts
July 17 2016 15:05 GMT
#3
Im GM in sc2, just dont know how to set up the actual game.
~Jaedong Forever~
StarFoxeR
Profile Joined July 2016
68 Posts
July 17 2016 15:09 GMT
#4
On July 18 2016 00:05 Graphix wrote:
Im GM in sc2, just dont know how to set up the actual game.



What I did was download BW from Bnet
found the bw patch from somewhere
download this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/465487-mca64launcher-20
register for an account on iccup
and then use that name and password through the mca64 launcher
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-17 15:18:42
July 17 2016 15:14 GMT
#5
You'll find a lot of answers here with
mcalauncher

And maybe if you have other graphics related problems maybe here ddraw fix

Edit - also yes go to iccup for the sake of decency if you want a competitive ladder that's not Korean level. Just go to the iccup site, click on the english at the top right, register and open mca then login.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Graphix
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States208 Posts
July 17 2016 15:27 GMT
#6
Thanks guys. the only issue i have so far is that when i load the game the resolution is really really little
~Jaedong Forever~
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
July 17 2016 15:45 GMT
#7
Resolution is fixed to be 640x480.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 17 2016 15:45 GMT
#8
Maybe you can try windowed mode? There's a checkbox in mca I think. I never really had to use it though but it never hurts to try.

If you have other questions, the mca thread maybe a better place (unless if they are not related to mca launcher ofc)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-17 15:51:11
July 17 2016 15:48 GMT
#9
The game is 640*480, is this what you mean? Maybe take a screenshot? If your graphics card supports it, you can stretch it to fit your monitor window (which is how I do it on my desktop).

Also, nice that you're interested in brood war now. I suggest checking out some of the streams on the right side to get a feel for a regular game. Then it would be wise to check out liquipedia for 1 basic strategy in each matchup.

Also not to discourage you but GM in Sc2 doesn't mean anything in brood war. I'm not going to make any comparisons between ranks because skills don't transfer at all from Sc2 to BW.

Which race are you most interested in? I can personally testify that zerg is an incredible race to play but is definitely a struggle to say the least! Protoss is without question the least mechanically intense to start out with but who can argue with reavers and templars? I would say terran is a close second due to TvP being so insanely hard when you start out. So make a good decision, as playing as random is not advisable at all (it's hard enough to learn 3 matchups and 1 race when you're starting out).

Good luck and most importantly have fun.

Edit: Yes, iCCup is where all the foreigners hang out. You have to get a launcher to be able to connect to the iccup gateway (iccup launcher or the recommended mca64launcher).
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
July 17 2016 15:52 GMT
#10
Also not to discourage you but GM in Sc2 doesn't mean anything in brood war. I'm not going to make any comparisons between ranks because skills don't transfer at all from Sc2 to BW.


This is really true. I achieved masters in SC2 and barely was able to have 50% win rate in D- on ICCUP.
Graphix
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States208 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-17 16:05:40
July 17 2016 16:00 GMT
#11
http://imgur.com/Nu0DMMn

This is what it looks like. Is this normal?

edit: made picture work?
~Jaedong Forever~
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
July 17 2016 16:02 GMT
#12
Ah, I believe you can fix that through your GPU settings. For example:

On AMD crimson, you can change the settings for certain application and set it to "Maintain Aspect Ratio". This will make it stretch to fill the screen but will keep the aspect ratio 4:3. Try messing around with your GPU settings related to SC to get it working.
Graphix
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States208 Posts
July 17 2016 16:10 GMT
#13
ahh nice i did get it to work i think. changing the gpu aspect ratio worked thanks guys
~Jaedong Forever~
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 17 2016 16:30 GMT
#14
You will learn something new till rest of your life.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
MarineCA1
Profile Joined June 2015
93 Posts
July 17 2016 16:43 GMT
#15
On July 18 2016 00:52 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
Also not to discourage you but GM in Sc2 doesn't mean anything in brood war. I'm not going to make any comparisons between ranks because skills don't transfer at all from Sc2 to BW.


This is really true. I achieved masters in SC2 and barely was able to have 50% win rate in D- on ICCUP.


smurfing is a problem.
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland746 Posts
July 17 2016 16:53 GMT
#16
On July 17 2016 23:28 Graphix wrote:
I got really hyped watching the GSL stream of brood war today and I just bought and installed brood war. I have literally never played brood war before. I launched it for the first time and the resolution is really small. Also how do i connect to the ladder? (ICCUP?)


Welcome to the world of Brood War
Rip & Tear until it is done!
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-17 21:23:05
July 17 2016 17:09 GMT
#17
You can start here:
http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/sc_start.html
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-17 17:22:56
July 17 2016 17:20 GMT
#18
Just to add my 5 cents.
Do not get discouraged! The game is difficult and requires every day practice to just get to "D" level. Losing on ICCup is normal, if you reach 50% win rate your life is complete. At start, having 2-20 stats is absolutely normal, as I said, do not get discouraged. There are very few real "D-" players now.
Having played the game from 2008 I have reached C- in 2x2 only and D+ in 1x1 and that was it for me (in my defense I never cared for build orders but you should :D).
So, do not get discouraged, read strategies and watch how pros play. Once you start understanding BW, you'll realize how awesome this game is.
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
July 17 2016 17:27 GMT
#19
Good luck man! And have fun
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-17 17:48:35
July 17 2016 17:48 GMT
#20
Glad to have you here.

If people don't join your games, go to channel OP Teamliquid or Ladder D-C and ask someone to test whether you can host or not. If not then use the search function here on TL for advice on how to open ports (there is an option for this in MCA-Launcher, too).

gl hf
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
July 17 2016 18:03 GMT
#21
On July 18 2016 00:05 Graphix wrote:
Im GM in sc2, just dont know how to set up the actual game.


Are you a zerg user in sc2?
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 17 2016 18:29 GMT
#22
On July 18 2016 00:05 Graphix wrote:
Im GM in sc2, just dont know how to set up the actual game.


oh my sweet summer child
what do you know of the korean winter
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
July 17 2016 20:42 GMT
#23
welcome to bw hf
aka DragOn[NaS]
Graphix
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States208 Posts
July 18 2016 00:03 GMT
#24
Im using the Mca64 launcher. how do i connect to the official blizzard servers. i saw that it said to uncheck GIU fixes and directIP. so i did that. and now the blizzard servers show up when i load the game. but when i click on them they wont let me connect to them.
~Jaedong Forever~
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-18 00:20:39
July 18 2016 00:17 GMT
#25
On July 18 2016 09:03 Graphix wrote:
Im using the Mca64 launcher. how do i connect to the official blizzard servers. i saw that it said to uncheck GIU fixes and directIP. so i did that. and now the blizzard servers show up when i load the game. but when i click on them they wont let me connect to them.


If you got ddraw.dll fix in your BW folder, you should remove it while playing on official servers. Other than that I don't know why you wanna connect to officcial battle.net servers using a launcher. If you want your APM showing up you can try ChaosLauncher.

EDIT:
I tried connecting with mca launcher to official servers and it's working fine. Try again, uncheck some things and remove
temporarily to another place ddraw.dll. Battle.net is dead and full of hackers, only Asia is alive if you want to chill and play some UMS, Hunters etc.
sunbeams are never made like me...
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
July 18 2016 00:18 GMT
#26
use ICCUP. No one plays on the official servers since they are beyond shit these days. Blizzard never bothered to make them close to work
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10162 Posts
July 18 2016 00:30 GMT
#27
Welcome and good luck!
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HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States461 Posts
July 21 2016 16:15 GMT
#28
Add me up on iccup [NG]Nujabes
How we will win in the period ahead.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
July 21 2016 16:39 GMT
#29
We have a tutorial video in case you need it, it explains how to start playing ICCup in detail. The Video is a bit dated, but it's still helpful:

Broodwar for life!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 21 2016 20:24 GMT
#30
On July 18 2016 00:05 Graphix wrote:
Im GM in sc2, just dont know how to set up the actual game.


> he thinks his sc2 skill matters at all


but seriously, welcome abroad! sign up on iccup, sign up for shieldbattery beta, and start watching a fuckton of replays and get ready to learn to love to lose.

and always have fun playing!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
July 21 2016 20:45 GMT
#31
On July 18 2016 00:48 B-royal wrote:
Also not to discourage you but GM in Sc2 doesn't mean anything in brood war. I'm not going to make any comparisons between ranks because skills don't transfer at all from Sc2 to BW.


At all? That's a lie. Micro, macro and some strategies are transferable, but build orders are rarely transferable. So, as long as you stick with concepts, you may find a lot of similarities.
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
July 21 2016 20:52 GMT
#32
Well, if you know an SC2 6 pool you are already 150% to your BW championship.
GornWood
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany121 Posts
July 21 2016 21:42 GMT
#33
While skill isn't that transferable from Sc2 to bw it also isnt the other way around, at least thats what I think. I used to play bw a lot when I was a kid because of my brother but then after a while it faded away from my life and I went on to play other games. Fast forward 5 years, I started playing Sc2 and then after like 2 years of playing Sc2 I picked bw back up again and I found myself playing on D+/C- after a few weeks. I dont know if it was from my prior experience in bw or not but it wasn't that hard to achieve. When I went back to Sc2 of course my skill had dropped and playing bw the whole time didnt increase my skill in Sc2. So basically only micro and macro kind of transfer to the other games.
But enough comparisons. I love both of dem Starcrafts!
Maybe you should sign up for ShieldBattery beta, I hope its gonna be awesome.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1973 Posts
July 23 2016 09:18 GMT
#34
On July 22 2016 06:42 GornWood wrote:
While skill isn't that transferable from Sc2 to bw it also isnt the other way around, at least thats what I think. I used to play bw a lot when I was a kid because of my brother but then after a while it faded away from my life and I went on to play other games. Fast forward 5 years, I started playing Sc2 and then after like 2 years of playing Sc2 I picked bw back up again and I found myself playing on D+/C- after a few weeks. I dont know if it was from my prior experience in bw or not but it wasn't that hard to achieve. When I went back to Sc2 of course my skill had dropped and playing bw the whole time didnt increase my skill in Sc2. So basically only micro and macro kind of transfer to the other games.
But enough comparisons. I love both of dem Starcrafts!
Maybe you should sign up for ShieldBattery beta, I hope its gonna be awesome.


I agree. SC2 and BW are just too very different games.
BW macro and micro is much harder to learn than sc2 though (especially macro).
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quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
July 23 2016 10:11 GMT
#35
the general concepts of micro, macro, timings, strategy/tactics is definitely transferable. what's different is the timings in sc2 are a lot more deadly, the fights end kinda more quickly, and the game is kinda "faster" becaus of the pathing and quick fights.

allins and cheeses are more prominent in sc2, if you look sc2 from a bw perspective, most of the games would be classifed as cheese/timing attack.

but if you understand the basics, you can use them in bw, you just have to get used to the new mechanics and new timings/strategy. if you watch some commented vods you should get the hang of how things go and from there it shouldn't be hard to get to D+/C- (unless you hit 50 smurfs along the way).
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