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Who needs JD, effort is 2x the skill of JD.
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Is this for real?
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I guess we will just have to wait a bit longer for his return.
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On July 19 2016 23:46 ICanFlyLow wrote:
Who needs JD, effort is 2x the skill of JD.
Tell that to shuttle
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On July 19 2016 23:31 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2016 23:01 letian wrote:On July 19 2016 21:16 Letmelose wrote:On July 19 2016 19:59 Miragee wrote:On July 19 2016 10:51 Letmelose wrote:On July 19 2016 09:20 Miragee wrote:On July 19 2016 02:53 Chef wrote:On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote:On July 18 2016 17:47 Essbee wrote:On July 18 2016 17:02 Wrath wrote:
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Hopefully this can be the trigger for Bisu to get his ass to practice seriously again... Or Jangbi. Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. I like that you just name two of the members of TBLS to decide who the only good PvZ players were. Also Flash was the only person good at TvP. And Jaedong was the only one good at ZvT. Job done! Also I hear their other matchup's weren't bad  Jaedong wasn't the only zerg good at ZvT. And Flash wasn't the only terran good at TvP. So?^^ On July 19 2016 06:13 _Animus_ wrote:On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote:On July 18 2016 17:47 Essbee wrote:On July 18 2016 17:02 Wrath wrote:
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Hopefully this can be the trigger for Bisu to get his ass to practice seriously again... Or Jangbi. Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. He won 2 osls in a row which no other protoss player has ever done (delivering one of the most epic games ive ever seen) and we couldnt see more achievements, because sc1 ended. At that time there were no other individual tournaments so all of the progamers where focused on OSL exclusively. Aside from that, he was finalist on 3 starleagues before. He is inconsistent not overrated. His OSL runs have been pretty wanky... And epic depends on the spectator. They were close but that was more due to wanky play so it wasn't really as exciting to me. Don't get me wrong, there were some pretty good games as well but still - the whole thing felt kind of weak to me. I think it's fair to say that while Stork achieved far more than JangBi, during practice, JangBi was the superior player. I think you're actually under-selling JangBi's skill here. While his accomplishments as a professional gamer may be sugar coated by the fans, his skills as a gamer were never under question by his peers even during his lowest moments while he played as a professional gamer. lol If we are to assume the numerous interviews and tell tales from Afreeca broadcasting jockeys are to be somewhat accurate, there's no reason to be surprised at the general consensus that JangBi was the most skilled guy in the Samsung Khan house during his professional years. And I'm not just talking about their head to head record here (although Stork was famous for talking about his phobia of JangBi during practice). I'm speaking about all the match-ups. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the few people who believe that Stork has a legitimate claim for being the greatest protoss ever, but in terms of pure skill, not achievements, JangBi with his full gears going was a force of nature the likes of which few have ever matched. Can't but agree with this. And I have to disagree. Jangbi rose to fame at the end of the KESPA era. He had terrible proleague results and had no pressure to do well in PL while he competed in the Individual Leagues. His wins at the end are still awesome and great to watch, but he is overrated because of how the KESPA era ended. Stork's reign as top two protoss for so many years and consistent PL/individual league results speaks volumes about how much better he was then Jangbi on the main stage.
There was interview with Stork, the question was "who is the best protoss" or "who is the best protoss in khan" i dont remember correctly. His answer was Jangbi. He said during practice Jangbi owns hard and he just need to put that into the studio. I dont buy that end of kespa era thing, everyone was playing at their best, Fantasy was looking unbeatable with perfect play. Honestly i didnt think Jangbi is capable of beating Fantasy during Jin Air OSL, but he did it, twice.
Fantasy lost only 4 games at jin air osl, 3 of them by jangbi. Next, tving OSL, Fatnasy have perfect run into the finals, no losses, then 3-1 by Jangbi.
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On July 20 2016 01:47 _Animus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2016 23:31 BisuDagger wrote:On July 19 2016 23:01 letian wrote:On July 19 2016 21:16 Letmelose wrote:On July 19 2016 19:59 Miragee wrote:On July 19 2016 10:51 Letmelose wrote:On July 19 2016 09:20 Miragee wrote:On July 19 2016 02:53 Chef wrote:On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote:On July 18 2016 17:47 Essbee wrote:
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Or Jangbi. Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. I like that you just name two of the members of TBLS to decide who the only good PvZ players were. Also Flash was the only person good at TvP. And Jaedong was the only one good at ZvT. Job done! Also I hear their other matchup's weren't bad Jaedong wasn't the only zerg good at ZvT. And Flash wasn't the only terran good at TvP. So?^^ On July 19 2016 06:13 _Animus_ wrote:On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote:On July 18 2016 17:47 Essbee wrote:
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Or Jangbi. Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. He won 2 osls in a row which no other protoss player has ever done (delivering one of the most epic games ive ever seen) and we couldnt see more achievements, because sc1 ended. At that time there were no other individual tournaments so all of the progamers where focused on OSL exclusively. Aside from that, he was finalist on 3 starleagues before. He is inconsistent not overrated. His OSL runs have been pretty wanky... And epic depends on the spectator. They were close but that was more due to wanky play so it wasn't really as exciting to me. Don't get me wrong, there were some pretty good games as well but still - the whole thing felt kind of weak to me. I think it's fair to say that while Stork achieved far more than JangBi, during practice, JangBi was the superior player. I think you're actually under-selling JangBi's skill here. While his accomplishments as a professional gamer may be sugar coated by the fans, his skills as a gamer were never under question by his peers even during his lowest moments while he played as a professional gamer. lol If we are to assume the numerous interviews and tell tales from Afreeca broadcasting jockeys are to be somewhat accurate, there's no reason to be surprised at the general consensus that JangBi was the most skilled guy in the Samsung Khan house during his professional years. And I'm not just talking about their head to head record here (although Stork was famous for talking about his phobia of JangBi during practice). I'm speaking about all the match-ups. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the few people who believe that Stork has a legitimate claim for being the greatest protoss ever, but in terms of pure skill, not achievements, JangBi with his full gears going was a force of nature the likes of which few have ever matched. Can't but agree with this. And I have to disagree. Jangbi rose to fame at the end of the KESPA era. He had terrible proleague results and had no pressure to do well in PL while he competed in the Individual Leagues. His wins at the end are still awesome and great to watch, but he is overrated because of how the KESPA era ended. Stork's reign as top two protoss for so many years and consistent PL/individual league results speaks volumes about how much better he was then Jangbi on the main stage. There was interview with Stork, the question was "who is the best protoss" or "who is the best protoss in khan" i dont remember correctly. His answer was Jangbi. He said during practice Jangbi owns hard and he just need to put that into the studio. I dont buy that end of kespa era thing, everyone was playing at their best, Fantasy was looking unbeatable with perfect play. Honestly i didnt think Jangbi is capable of beating Fantasy during Jin Air OSL, but he did it, twice. Fantasy lost only 4 games at jin air osl, 3 of them by jangbi. Next, tving OSL, Fatnasy have perfect run into the finals, no losses, then 3-1 by Jangbi.
then gets rekt by larva which forced him to go army
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On July 19 2016 23:46 ICanFlyLow wrote:
Who needs JD, effort is 2x the skill of JD.
Tsktsktsk, you foolish mortal you have those reversed! Although I do love watching Effort!
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On July 20 2016 03:00 Shinokuki wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 01:47 _Animus_ wrote:On July 19 2016 23:31 BisuDagger wrote:On July 19 2016 23:01 letian wrote:On July 19 2016 21:16 Letmelose wrote:On July 19 2016 19:59 Miragee wrote:On July 19 2016 10:51 Letmelose wrote:On July 19 2016 09:20 Miragee wrote:On July 19 2016 02:53 Chef wrote:On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote:
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Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. I like that you just name two of the members of TBLS to decide who the only good PvZ players were. Also Flash was the only person good at TvP. And Jaedong was the only one good at ZvT. Job done! Also I hear their other matchup's weren't bad Jaedong wasn't the only zerg good at ZvT. And Flash wasn't the only terran good at TvP. So?^^ On July 19 2016 06:13 _Animus_ wrote:On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote:
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Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. He won 2 osls in a row which no other protoss player has ever done (delivering one of the most epic games ive ever seen) and we couldnt see more achievements, because sc1 ended. At that time there were no other individual tournaments so all of the progamers where focused on OSL exclusively. Aside from that, he was finalist on 3 starleagues before. He is inconsistent not overrated. His OSL runs have been pretty wanky... And epic depends on the spectator. They were close but that was more due to wanky play so it wasn't really as exciting to me. Don't get me wrong, there were some pretty good games as well but still - the whole thing felt kind of weak to me. I think it's fair to say that while Stork achieved far more than JangBi, during practice, JangBi was the superior player. I think you're actually under-selling JangBi's skill here. While his accomplishments as a professional gamer may be sugar coated by the fans, his skills as a gamer were never under question by his peers even during his lowest moments while he played as a professional gamer. lol If we are to assume the numerous interviews and tell tales from Afreeca broadcasting jockeys are to be somewhat accurate, there's no reason to be surprised at the general consensus that JangBi was the most skilled guy in the Samsung Khan house during his professional years. And I'm not just talking about their head to head record here (although Stork was famous for talking about his phobia of JangBi during practice). I'm speaking about all the match-ups. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the few people who believe that Stork has a legitimate claim for being the greatest protoss ever, but in terms of pure skill, not achievements, JangBi with his full gears going was a force of nature the likes of which few have ever matched. Can't but agree with this. And I have to disagree. Jangbi rose to fame at the end of the KESPA era. He had terrible proleague results and had no pressure to do well in PL while he competed in the Individual Leagues. His wins at the end are still awesome and great to watch, but he is overrated because of how the KESPA era ended. Stork's reign as top two protoss for so many years and consistent PL/individual league results speaks volumes about how much better he was then Jangbi on the main stage. There was interview with Stork, the question was "who is the best protoss" or "who is the best protoss in khan" i dont remember correctly. His answer was Jangbi. He said during practice Jangbi owns hard and he just need to put that into the studio. I dont buy that end of kespa era thing, everyone was playing at their best, Fantasy was looking unbeatable with perfect play. Honestly i didnt think Jangbi is capable of beating Fantasy during Jin Air OSL, but he did it, twice. Fantasy lost only 4 games at jin air osl, 3 of them by jangbi. Next, tving OSL, Fatnasy have perfect run into the finals, no losses, then 3-1 by Jangbi. then gets rekt by larva which forced him to go army
lol, good joke.
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Regardless of what he's doing, I hope JD might stream at least once or twice!
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I don't get it. What is he doing. Is he back to school ? Or work ? He doesn't play SC2. He doesn't come to BW.
Maybe he is tired of it all. Hope he gives a fan a heads up 
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I thought he's just a cheese user. I made so many mistakes in the beginning for first 2 games. - -
+ Show Spoiler +at least I paid him back in 3rd and 4th game 
I determined who c-jem is, + Show Spoiler +and I wouldn't like to make a statement who s/he is for his/her future.
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On July 20 2016 01:47 _Animus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2016 23:31 BisuDagger wrote:On July 19 2016 23:01 letian wrote:On July 19 2016 21:16 Letmelose wrote:On July 19 2016 19:59 Miragee wrote:On July 19 2016 10:51 Letmelose wrote:On July 19 2016 09:20 Miragee wrote:On July 19 2016 02:53 Chef wrote:On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote:On July 18 2016 17:47 Essbee wrote:
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Or Jangbi. Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. I like that you just name two of the members of TBLS to decide who the only good PvZ players were. Also Flash was the only person good at TvP. And Jaedong was the only one good at ZvT. Job done! Also I hear their other matchup's weren't bad Jaedong wasn't the only zerg good at ZvT. And Flash wasn't the only terran good at TvP. So?^^ On July 19 2016 06:13 _Animus_ wrote:On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote:On July 18 2016 17:47 Essbee wrote:
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Or Jangbi. Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. He won 2 osls in a row which no other protoss player has ever done (delivering one of the most epic games ive ever seen) and we couldnt see more achievements, because sc1 ended. At that time there were no other individual tournaments so all of the progamers where focused on OSL exclusively. Aside from that, he was finalist on 3 starleagues before. He is inconsistent not overrated. His OSL runs have been pretty wanky... And epic depends on the spectator. They were close but that was more due to wanky play so it wasn't really as exciting to me. Don't get me wrong, there were some pretty good games as well but still - the whole thing felt kind of weak to me. I think it's fair to say that while Stork achieved far more than JangBi, during practice, JangBi was the superior player. I think you're actually under-selling JangBi's skill here. While his accomplishments as a professional gamer may be sugar coated by the fans, his skills as a gamer were never under question by his peers even during his lowest moments while he played as a professional gamer. lol If we are to assume the numerous interviews and tell tales from Afreeca broadcasting jockeys are to be somewhat accurate, there's no reason to be surprised at the general consensus that JangBi was the most skilled guy in the Samsung Khan house during his professional years. And I'm not just talking about their head to head record here (although Stork was famous for talking about his phobia of JangBi during practice). I'm speaking about all the match-ups. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the few people who believe that Stork has a legitimate claim for being the greatest protoss ever, but in terms of pure skill, not achievements, JangBi with his full gears going was a force of nature the likes of which few have ever matched. Can't but agree with this. And I have to disagree. Jangbi rose to fame at the end of the KESPA era. He had terrible proleague results and had no pressure to do well in PL while he competed in the Individual Leagues. His wins at the end are still awesome and great to watch, but he is overrated because of how the KESPA era ended. Stork's reign as top two protoss for so many years and consistent PL/individual league results speaks volumes about how much better he was then Jangbi on the main stage. There was interview with Stork, the question was "who is the best protoss" or "who is the best protoss in khan" i dont remember correctly. His answer was Jangbi. He said during practice Jangbi owns hard and he just need to put that into the studio. I dont buy that end of kespa era thing, everyone was playing at their best, Fantasy was looking unbeatable with perfect play. Honestly i didnt think Jangbi is capable of beating Fantasy during Jin Air OSL, but he did it, twice. Fantasy lost only 4 games at jin air osl, 3 of them by jangbi. Next, tving OSL, Fatnasy have perfect run into the finals, no losses, then 3-1 by Jangbi.
You should know by now that Stork is incredibly humble. Of course he wouldn't say that he is the strongest protoss at Khan... Stork has always shown strong games over an insanely long period of time in all three match ups. Jangbi had a lot of slumps. He was generally weak at PvZ. He sure had some good PvZ games but the majority of them was wonky. Jangbi had quite a lot of potential I would say but he was pretty inconsistent and you could never say what kind of skill level he would display on a certain day.
On July 19 2016 23:34 amazingxkcd wrote:
jangbi was more fun to watch than stork.
Depends on what you want to see. I always liked to watch Stork because of his incredible consistency while still being not a machine like Flash, who made things quite boring after some time. Stork was only second to Bisu for me to watch in terms of protoss players. I also liked Wookie in 2012. Pretty sad to see him go to SC2, I always thought he was just on the edge of becoming a really great protoss at that time.
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On July 21 2016 11:35 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 01:47 _Animus_ wrote:On July 19 2016 23:31 BisuDagger wrote:On July 19 2016 23:01 letian wrote:On July 19 2016 21:16 Letmelose wrote:On July 19 2016 19:59 Miragee wrote:On July 19 2016 10:51 Letmelose wrote:On July 19 2016 09:20 Miragee wrote:On July 19 2016 02:53 Chef wrote:On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote:
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Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. I like that you just name two of the members of TBLS to decide who the only good PvZ players were. Also Flash was the only person good at TvP. And Jaedong was the only one good at ZvT. Job done! Also I hear their other matchup's weren't bad Jaedong wasn't the only zerg good at ZvT. And Flash wasn't the only terran good at TvP. So?^^ On July 19 2016 06:13 _Animus_ wrote:On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote:
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Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. He won 2 osls in a row which no other protoss player has ever done (delivering one of the most epic games ive ever seen) and we couldnt see more achievements, because sc1 ended. At that time there were no other individual tournaments so all of the progamers where focused on OSL exclusively. Aside from that, he was finalist on 3 starleagues before. He is inconsistent not overrated. His OSL runs have been pretty wanky... And epic depends on the spectator. They were close but that was more due to wanky play so it wasn't really as exciting to me. Don't get me wrong, there were some pretty good games as well but still - the whole thing felt kind of weak to me. I think it's fair to say that while Stork achieved far more than JangBi, during practice, JangBi was the superior player. I think you're actually under-selling JangBi's skill here. While his accomplishments as a professional gamer may be sugar coated by the fans, his skills as a gamer were never under question by his peers even during his lowest moments while he played as a professional gamer. lol If we are to assume the numerous interviews and tell tales from Afreeca broadcasting jockeys are to be somewhat accurate, there's no reason to be surprised at the general consensus that JangBi was the most skilled guy in the Samsung Khan house during his professional years. And I'm not just talking about their head to head record here (although Stork was famous for talking about his phobia of JangBi during practice). I'm speaking about all the match-ups. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the few people who believe that Stork has a legitimate claim for being the greatest protoss ever, but in terms of pure skill, not achievements, JangBi with his full gears going was a force of nature the likes of which few have ever matched. Can't but agree with this. And I have to disagree. Jangbi rose to fame at the end of the KESPA era. He had terrible proleague results and had no pressure to do well in PL while he competed in the Individual Leagues. His wins at the end are still awesome and great to watch, but he is overrated because of how the KESPA era ended. Stork's reign as top two protoss for so many years and consistent PL/individual league results speaks volumes about how much better he was then Jangbi on the main stage. There was interview with Stork, the question was "who is the best protoss" or "who is the best protoss in khan" i dont remember correctly. His answer was Jangbi. He said during practice Jangbi owns hard and he just need to put that into the studio. I dont buy that end of kespa era thing, everyone was playing at their best, Fantasy was looking unbeatable with perfect play. Honestly i didnt think Jangbi is capable of beating Fantasy during Jin Air OSL, but he did it, twice. Fantasy lost only 4 games at jin air osl, 3 of them by jangbi. Next, tving OSL, Fatnasy have perfect run into the finals, no losses, then 3-1 by Jangbi. You should know by now that Stork is incredibly humble. Of course he wouldn't say that he is the strongest protoss at Khan... Stork has always shown strong games over an insanely long period of time in all three match ups. Jangbi had a lot of slumps. He was generally weak at PvZ. He sure had some good PvZ games but the majority of them was wonky. Jangbi had quite a lot of potential I would say but he was pretty inconsistent and you could never say what kind of skill level he would display on a certain day. Show nested quote +On July 19 2016 23:34 amazingxkcd wrote:
jangbi was more fun to watch than stork. Depends on what you want to see. I always liked to watch Stork because of his incredible consistency while still being not a machine like Flash, who made things quite boring after some time. Stork was only second to Bisu for me to watch in terms of protoss players. I also liked Wookie in 2012. Pretty sad to see him go to SC2, I always thought he was just on the edge of becoming a really great protoss at that time.
I'm not sure if this deliberate ignorance on your part, or if you haven't been keeping up with various sources, but I'll just elaborate on the whole practice thing since you seem to be in denial about that whole idea and keep mentioning Stork's superior on stage performances as if that somehow refutes the idea that JangBi was the best protoss of his team during practice.
Stork has not only praised JangBi in numerous occasions, but also went in a little more detail about how he could almost never beat him one versus one. There are also accounts from broadcasting jockeys like HiyA, and Sky[kal] who praised JangBi for his ridiculous win rate during cross-team practice sessions. Sky[kal] was of the opinion that his mirror match-up was his forte, but felt helpless against JangBi, a feeling that he never had against anybody else. There are so many accounts of JangBi's clear domination over everyone else in his team during practice that it is basically a forgone conclusion in Korea that JangBi was the best player by far in his team during practice sessions.
Now if you want to talk about their actual careers, yes, it is an insult to Stork to be even compared to JangBi, who was a streaky player plagued with stage nerves, motivational issues due to issues involving contracts, and probably showed only glimpses of his skill on the big stage. However, even so, skillwise, he was an absolute beast and there is more to him than a guy who simply lucked out during the dying days of Starcraft.
Stork is one of players I respect the most (so you don't have to list all his accolades that I am already familiar with), but facts are facts, JangBi was better than Stork during practice. And whether that matters much is up to you, but the evidence on this side of the argument is nearly inrefutable.
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On July 21 2016 07:29 LaStScan wrote:I thought he's just a cheese user. I made so many mistakes in the beginning for first 2 games. - - + Show Spoiler +at least I paid him back in 3rd and 4th game I determined who c-jem is, + Show Spoiler +and I wouldn't like to make a statement who s/he is for his future.
A girl progamer? I'm guessing January xD
JD should take his time on deciding his future but for his sake and for his fans (and by extension all BW fans) I think he should decide sooner. If he decides to rest himself for a while then that's good, at least we know something.
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On July 16 2016 23:39 art_of_turtle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2016 19:20 Sabu113 wrote:On July 16 2016 17:47 RoomOfMush wrote:
Doesnt reflect well on SC2 with all the ex BW players going back. I wonder how the SC2 team at blizzard is feeling when they get news like this. I guess I would be pretty sad if I was in their position. SC2 is crap compared to BW as a spectacle. They should feel bad. They should have fired David Kim ages ago. Unfortunately some fansites carried water for them on this. pretty extreme to say fire David Kim over only the multiplayer Aspect of the game not panning out the way you wanted it to. I largely enjoyed the Campaign, and felt they delivered every time. Even with LOTV being the worst of the 3.
i think its more the of a the community knows what needs to be done for balance and he ignores all of it kinda thing.
has been happening since WoL for sure.
glad to see BW growing back again though!
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who s/he is for his future
You already blew it up with "his"
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So, c-jem is not JD at least this we know.
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EPT
