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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11285 Posts
On July 18 2016 19:56 quirinus wrote: Jaebonggggg! This is going to make people so high I do hope this makes Bisu actually practice again. He needs to jump back into S-class again. | ||
valas991
Hungary181 Posts
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lagcats
172 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On July 18 2016 20:44 valas991 wrote: i sadly discovered SC pro scene last year (only watching), or so, thus missing the glorious days. I do hope JD will deliver again though, so i got to see him and the other giants live Welcome! | ||
Miragee
8292 Posts
Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. | ||
Cele
Germany4012 Posts
sacrilege o0 | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19033 Posts
He had some good points: | ||
Chef
10810 Posts
On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote: Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. I like that you just name two of the members of TBLS to decide who the only good PvZ players were. Also Flash was the only person good at TvP. And Jaedong was the only one good at ZvT. Job done! Also I hear their other matchup's weren't bad | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19033 Posts
On July 19 2016 02:53 Chef wrote: I like that you just name two of the members of TBLS to decide who the only good PvZ players were. Also Flash was the only person good at TvP. And Jaedong was the only one good at ZvT. Job done! Also I hear their other matchup's weren't bad You're right. I bet Flash has some pretty good PvZ too. Jaedong probably can't play protoss well. | ||
art_of_turtle
United States1153 Posts
On July 19 2016 02:55 BisuDagger wrote: You're right. I bet Flash has some pretty good PvZ too. Jaedong probably can't play protoss well. + Show Spoiler + | ||
_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
On July 19 2016 02:21 Miragee wrote: Jangbi's so overrated... His only real good match-up has always been PvT, which most protoss players are good at. His PvP was solid and his PvZ was rather meh. Most of the big games he won against zergs was because the zerg made a crucial mistake or got carried away. For example in his series against Zero (in the season where he ended up winning championship). Honestly, there were only two protoss players who were truly good at PvZ. That's Bisu of course and Stork and of those two only Bisu seemed to truly understand the match-up. Stork just plowed through with his insane mechanics and general monstrous play. Kal was also decent at it I guess. Only talking about the last few years of the pro scene, like 2009-2012. He won 2 osls in a row which no other protoss player has ever done (delivering one of the most epic games ive ever seen) and we couldnt see more achievements, because sc1 ended. At that time there were no other individual tournaments so all of the progamers where focused on OSL exclusively. Aside from that, he was finalist on 3 starleagues before. He is inconsistent not overrated. | ||
Lightrush
Bulgaria164 Posts
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onlystar
United States971 Posts
Bisu encountered ''hydra'' zerg user on the ladder last sunday he starts out by joking ''jd jd'' as he úsually does when encountering gosu zergs on the ladder like how he calls Star ''mini jd'' but in the mid game ''hydra'' displays some high level ling control and amazing scourge control followed up by muta.. the mid-late game is just mind blowing lurkdrop/guards harass, ultra/ling drop in main while splitting map.+ Show Spoiler + .demolished bisu in 25min game. bisu is convinced he is playing JD at this point following up game 2 he calls him out ''JD..'' ''hydra'' responds withs ''JD..??'' bisu continues to test ''hydra'' with canon/pylon block behind mineral line perfect counter 2 floating drones first attempt, bisu again confirming JD.. bisu jokes/trolls alot on the ladder but he seems serious about these 2 games considering jaedong smurf, im also quite convinced this could be his smurf id 90% this is what i got from watching the bisu stream if any korean speaker could elaborate? or what the korean afreecans think about this recent encounter please tell i do not have any info on jaedongs possible fish ip adres/isp with the fish cmd : /finger (name) if anyone could compare /finger hydra ip/isp with other streamers might be insightful. VOD starts 3:40 live.afreecatv.com:8079 Fish ranked #101 Hydra 21-4 | ||
duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On July 19 2016 07:21 onlystar wrote: first sightings of the tyrant? i watched bisu stream last sunday, Bisu encountered ''hydra'' zerg user on the ladder last sunday he starts out by joking ''jd jd'' as he úsually does when encountering gosu zergs on the ladder like how he calls Star ''mini jd'' but in the mid game ''hydra'' displays some high level ling control and amazing scourge control followed up by muta.. the mid-late game is just mind blowing lurkdrop/guards harass, ultra/ling drop in main while splitting map.+ Show Spoiler + .demolished bisu in 25min game. bisu is convinced he is playing JD at this point following up game 2 he calls him out ''JD..'' ''hydra'' responds withs ''JD..??'' bisu continues to test ''hydra'' with canon/pylon block behind mineral line perfect counter 2 floating drones first attempt, bisu again confirming JD.. bisu jokes/trolls alot but he seems serious about these 2 games considering jaedong smurf, im also quite convinced this could be his smurf id 90% this is what i got from watching the bisu stream if any korean speaker could elaborate? or what the korean afreecans think about this recent encounter please tell i do not have any info on jaedongs possible fish ip adres/isp with the fish cmd : /finger (name) if anyone could compare /finger hydra ip/isp with other streamers might be insightful. VOD starts 3:40 live.afreecatv.com:8079 Fish ranked #101 Hydra 21-4 I would trust Bisu on this considering he is the Zerg whisperer edit: holy fuck this game | ||
Siz)Beggar
United States336 Posts
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Miragee
8292 Posts
On July 19 2016 02:53 Chef wrote: I like that you just name two of the members of TBLS to decide who the only good PvZ players were. Also Flash was the only person good at TvP. And Jaedong was the only one good at ZvT. Job done! Also I hear their other matchup's weren't bad Jaedong wasn't the only zerg good at ZvT. And Flash wasn't the only terran good at TvP. So?^^ On July 19 2016 06:13 _Animus_ wrote: He won 2 osls in a row which no other protoss player has ever done (delivering one of the most epic games ive ever seen) and we couldnt see more achievements, because sc1 ended. At that time there were no other individual tournaments so all of the progamers where focused on OSL exclusively. Aside from that, he was finalist on 3 starleagues before. He is inconsistent not overrated. His OSL runs have been pretty wanky... And epic depends on the spectator. They were close but that was more due to wanky play so it wasn't really as exciting to me. Don't get me wrong, there were some pretty good games as well but still - the whole thing felt kind of weak to me. | ||
GTR
51135 Posts
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MasterCynical
505 Posts
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On July 19 2016 09:20 Miragee wrote: Jaedong wasn't the only zerg good at ZvT. And Flash wasn't the only terran good at TvP. So?^^ His OSL runs have been pretty wanky... And epic depends on the spectator. They were close but that was more due to wanky play so it wasn't really as exciting to me. Don't get me wrong, there were some pretty good games as well but still - the whole thing felt kind of weak to me. I think it's fair to say that while Stork achieved far more than JangBi, during practice, JangBi was the superior player. I think you're actually under-selling JangBi's skill here. While his accomplishments as a professional gamer may be sugar coated by the fans, his skills as a gamer were never under question by his peers even during his lowest moments while he played as a professional gamer. | ||
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