• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:09
CEST 04:09
KST 11:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down0[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th12Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Mihu vs Korea Players Statistics BW General Discussion [BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals NA Team League 6/8/2025 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Nintendo Switch Thread What do you want from future RTS games? Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Cognitive styles x game perf…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 21934 users

TLS Championship - It Is Time - Page 3

Forum Index > BW General
110 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 11:11:12
January 03 2016 11:09 GMT
#41
Will there be spoilerfree vods the day after? Its prefect for my drinking schedual.
Also what casters will there be?
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9491 Posts
January 03 2016 11:41 GMT
#42
On January 03 2016 20:09 lakrismamma wrote:
Will there be spoilerfree vods the day after? Its prefect for my drinking schedual.
Also what casters will there be?

There will be a spoilerfree cast the day after the casts (VODs should also follow the day after that) - Sundays at 19:00 GMT (+00:00).

Main casters will be Sayle and Cats_Paw. Others may join in or substitute them if one of them can't make it.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19133 Posts
January 03 2016 11:48 GMT
#43
This is gonna be so awsome. Looking forward to some BW action <3.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9491 Posts
January 03 2016 11:56 GMT
#44
On January 03 2016 18:10 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 17:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 03 2016 17:05 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
I understand for ro32 bracket been played every weekend but for a prelim phase playing only 1 bo3 is a waste of time,what about playing atleast 3-4 bo3 ?anything will be better than 1

its 7 Bo3s.

The simplest way of putting it is that the first Bo3 is against a random opponent, you win or lose(2-0 or 2-1 or 1-2 or 0-2) will only determine who you play next, so if your score after the first game is 2-0 then you'll play against someone else whose score is 2-0, and lets say you win that 2-0 too now your total score is 4-0, so your next opponent will be someone whos also 4-0 or if no one is 4-0 yet then you'll play someone whos 3-1 instead, its kinda like a mini ladder, people play others of equal rank or in this case set score. Top 32 after 7 Bo3s qualify.

Thats perfect,but prolonging it that long is not a good idea,better to play atleast 2 rounds in one day if not more (for prelims)

On January 03 2016 19:30 RoomOfMush wrote:
I agree with [sc1f]eonzerg, 1 Bo3 per week seems really drawn out. I fear that players might not pull through those 7 weeks just to get to the ro32.

I already talked with eon on skype about this, but wanted to write it down here as well for everyone who's worried about the format of the preliminaries.

Yes, playing 1 bo3 per week is a bit drawn out and may very well lead to some players not pulling through the whole 7 weeks. This is the one (and only?) disadvantage that we came up with when discussing the format.

Changing it to play more bo3s per week is hard because of the constraints of the format we chose. After every bo3 match, we need to collect all the replays, results, verify them and update the total standings table. Then we need to determine the matchups for the next bo3 based on those standings. Because we don't have a software that does this for us automatically instantly, we need to do it by hand and that takes time.

The reason we went for this format, despite this flaw, are its many benefits, some of which are:
- everyone plays same amount of matches (no bo1 and you're out)
- flexible schedule (new matchups will be posted on Monday and you have until Saturday to reschedule your match if you can't make it at the designated time)
- fairly assesses the best players while also giving weaker players a chance to play interesting matches against opponents of similar skill
- lets you know who is your opponent almost a week in advance, giving you time to prepare very specific builds for that particular matchup/player
- it provides fair seeds for the 32-elimination bracket
- gives entertainment to viewers following the table standings of players after each week (much like a Ladder stage)
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
January 03 2016 12:04 GMT
#45
On January 03 2016 20:05 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 10:37 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On January 03 2016 09:53 Slayer91 wrote:
Guys, it doesn't matter if my account on the iccup website doesn't work, right? It's a problem for tournaments since I can't sign up and play with the same account (should probably have just started playing on a new account zz) but since this is done via the TL site it'll be fine right?

wasn't gonna sign up but 32 players is a lot how many good white bw players can there be right? hue

You don't have to use the same account on ICCup as your TL name. Just write the name you're gonna use on ICCup in the box when registering.


yeah I figured, should be fine then.

Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 19:03 Cryoc wrote:
So the last SSL used HBR to even the race distribution after an all T semi-final in the previous league which is understandable. But considering the race distribution of foreigner players I cannot believe that you are using such a map as heartbreak ridge. If you want to avoid Terrans that much, why not just use central plains and battle royal? Well, you probably plan to use them in the elimination stage anyway, so just let Scan participate so I can watch atleast one Terran in the whole thing.


is HBR that bad? FS and Medusa are both considered T favoured aren't they? Should balance it out a little. Seems to me like theres a lot of strong foreign zergs though and both medusa and hbr stats indicate Z>P

Nowadays apparently every map, that has a 50% winrate in any TvX is Terran favored. And yeah, Medusa is so T favored, that it contributed to the creation of the 6 dragons.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6538 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 12:08:23
January 03 2016 12:08 GMT
#46
first time i heard medusa is terran favored :D



maybe not be terrible for tvz but for tvp is pretty bad
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 12:18:32
January 03 2016 12:15 GMT
#47
I honestly just looked at the TLPD stats and it was T>P which is unusual, probably flash had a lot of games on it or something.

I've read a lot that FS is slightly T favoured even though the stats seem to indicate its balanced

edit: I looked at neo medusa stats, medusa stats are indeed horrible for terran. hard to go mech without missile turrets go figure
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
January 03 2016 13:03 GMT
#48
Well if we're talking about map balance, then yes choosing Medusa and HBR is a great way to remove Terrans from the elimination bracket :D

I thought banning Scan was a better way to guarantee that though!

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 03 2016 13:07 GMT
#49
scan is banned as well practice your pvz boys
CoughingHydra
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
177 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 13:51:24
January 03 2016 13:29 GMT
#50
Nice!

Also, shouldn't this be on the TL front page under community news?

Edit: Oh lol ;; I always only look at the right bar...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
January 03 2016 13:43 GMT
#51
On January 03 2016 22:29 CoughingHydra wrote:
Nice!

Also, shouldn't this be on the TL front page under community news?


it is front page.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
January 03 2016 13:44 GMT
#52
Swiss format!
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
January 03 2016 14:49 GMT
#53
Awesome that you keep this going, guys. Gonna be a thrilling event.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 03 2016 15:26 GMT
#54
I'm seeing people host HBR and Neo medusa on iccup already epic nice
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
January 03 2016 15:27 GMT
#55
i cant play 9.01.
if it is possible, i like to reschedule to 10.1 or sth
aka EnjoYmE - streaming on http://www.twitch.tv/myprobe
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9491 Posts
January 03 2016 15:37 GMT
#56
On January 04 2016 00:27 vanatir wrote:
i cant play 9.01.
if it is possible, i like to reschedule to 10.1 or sth

We can't allow rescheduling for the first round since the first round has randomized matchups and you won't know your opponent until the last minute (I guess I could ask your opponent if he would agree to postpone your match until tomorrow, but I can't force him to do so since there is only one additional day before the games has to be played - it's up to the goodness of his heart I suppose).

If you can't make it to the first round, you can start with a 0-2 score in the first round and then win all your games in the next rounds ^^
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
January 03 2016 15:41 GMT
#57
no problem, but thanks for asking
aka EnjoYmE - streaming on http://www.twitch.tv/myprobe
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9491 Posts
January 03 2016 16:09 GMT
#58
Also, keep in mind that it's not necessary to check-in in the TL tournament system. Everyone who signs-up will be considered as participating in the tournament and checked-in automatically.

Edited the "Registration" part of the main post to clarify this.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
January 03 2016 17:15 GMT
#59
I am fine to be paired against vanatir in the first round and give him the Walk-Over win, if needed
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
January 03 2016 17:24 GMT
#60
On January 04 2016 02:15 chrisolo wrote:
I am fine to be paired against vanatir in the first round and give him the Walk-Over win, if needed


the "a <3 for Vanatir Initiative" is strong, i will do likewise if i get the chance. Is that okay with the TO just in case?
Broodwar for life!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 51m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 217
Livibee 136
RuFF_SC2 132
Nina 114
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 1048
Sharp 42
Icarus 11
Dota 2
monkeys_forever158
League of Legends
tarik_tv7112
JimRising 799
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1474
PGG 45
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King132
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor166
Other Games
summit1g9292
FrodaN3440
shahzam1302
ViBE232
Maynarde191
Models1
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream10055
Other Games
gamesdonequick748
BasetradeTV131
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH295
• davetesta20
• practicex 15
• gosughost_ 8
• Mapu3
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki24
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler79
League of Legends
• Doublelift6094
• Shiphtur851
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
8h 51m
Replay Cast
21h 51m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 8h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 8h
GSL Code S
2 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Online Event
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL Code S
3 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Cheesadelphia
5 days
GSL Code S
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.