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If you've played the iCCup ladder as a D-rank player, you've probably encountered this: You play a match against someone that completely annihilates you. It seems like they have the whole map and are ahead in population the whole game, and you can't understand why. You watch the replay, but are at a loss as to how they were able to win so handedly.
This is a normal part of playing StarCraft, actually. It happens to everyone. I don't want to make this seem rude, so I'll phrase it as nicely as I can: I often see many D-rank players make the assertion that there are many smurfs on the iCCup ladder who stay at a low rank to 'bash noobs'. This is actually a common misnomer, and I will explain why in this post.
First, everyone starts at D. That's why it's a ladder. Some people start playing early in the season, and some play later in the season. Most of the B and up players I've encountered occurs like 1 in 50 games when I play through the D-ranks. How do I know? After I play someone who kills me, I go back and look at their record in prior seasons. I might see something like B+ on multiple occasions. Most of the time though, I'll see C-, C, C+.
The first time I jumped from C- to C, I started looking for players with a -50% win ratio at D+. If I won on map of the week, I would get +97 points. I won about half those games because I sucked. I did the same thing when I tried for C+ the first time, hunting down all the poor C- noobies. The only reason I did it this way was because I was bad at the game. I'm very certain no one I encountered along the way said "OH WOW, I JUST PLAYED SOME GOSU PLAYER" In no prior season had I reached C or C+.
If you believe you've encountered someone who is B- or higher, there may be a variety of explanations:
- You looked at their profile and saw they were B- or higher before.
- You looked at their profile and saw it was a new account, so you assumed it was a B- person playing as a smurf.
- You asked them their rank, and they replied "B", which may or may not be a lie. I've known plenty of players who have lied about their rank for whatever reason.
- You asked them their rank, and they replied "D+", which may or may not be a lie. You assume they are lying, but really have no proof.
- APM spam; you can see stats on a player's APM and EAPM using wLauncher or MCA Launcher. This means very little in the grand scheme of things, because of the way APM is recorded. A low D rank player can have 300 apm, which I have seen. Many of my friends have a higher apm than myself, but I can beat some of them very easily. I also have friends who have apm that is lower than mine, but they can beat me consistently.
- Their play is just 'too good'. They seem to have good worker production, good army production, and can micro well. They scout the map well and react in an intelligent manner. You may go "Well, I've reached mid-C rank before, and this guy beat me with ease." and assume they're B rank or higher. They may even have a lot of EAPM. This does not mean they are B rank or are even capable of reaching B rank. They may only have one style of play that they are very used to that is very effective against your style of play.
- Finally, you might think you are better than you actually are. You may be playing like a total idiot, but think you're doing really well. Then, when some D+ player with decent macro rolls around, you get crushed and your brain cannot handle the fact that you are not as good as you had previously estimated. There could be something tremendously wrong with your gameplay, like maybe you think your macro is good, but it's really because you don't make enough workers. OR MAYBE YOU SHOW ME THE REPLAY AND I SEE YOU HAVE 3000 MINERALS BUT ARE COMPLAINING THAT THEY'RE "B RANK".
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To be perfectly fair, I have seen some good players, for whatever reason, play up to like C- and then just stop with an 18-0 record. I'm also sure there are some very insecure people who go "Time to slam some noobs' faces into the concrete". 99% of the time, these people are from the US and Canada. I don't know why. We're a very bad-mannered continent. Really. The most bad-mannered countries, in order, seem to be 1. Canada, 2. United States, 3. Poland, 4. Republic of Korea, 5. Mother Russia. And Russia isn't even that bm.
uh
So anyhow, what I'm really saying is that while there are probably a few smurfs here and there, the problem probably is not as prevalent as you may have surmised it to be.
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OR MAYBE YOU SHOW ME THE REPLAY AND I SEE YOU HAVE 3000 MINERALS BUT ARE COMPLAINING THAT THEY'RE "B RANK".
You have no proof :X
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only a ladder smurf would post such a thread
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On October 11 2015 11:59 fearthequeen wrote:
only a ladder smurf would post such a thread
stahp it
you're exposing mah scheme
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give me back the 5minutes of my life i spent reading your post looking for something to make me smile =/
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On October 11 2015 11:47 ninazerg wrote:
99% of the time, these people are from the US and Canada. I don't know why. We're a very bad-mannered continent. Really. The most bad-mannered countries, in order, seem to be 1. Canada, 2. United States, 3. Poland, 4. Republic of Korea, 5. Mother Russia. And Russia isn't even that bm.
WHAT? ;;
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JAJAJAJA YOUR BM COUNTRIES DON'T EVEN LISTING PERU
xDXDXDXDXDXDXDD
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LEFT OUT PERU OMG
NINAGATE!!!
your entire blog is now invalid!
(and I didn't even scroll down to bamboo's comment before thinking of this)
Actually I've never got any bm before besides the occasional offensive gg. The most common BM I got that is bm but not considered so is people just kicking without saying anything or just ignoring, but then again half of the people are decent 
except the things peruvians do ...... PvP proxy into cannon defense FE into speedzeal runby to kill the nexus and run out, rinse and repeat.
hahaha but honestly I think they are creative for coming up with their own ideas.
On October 11 2015 13:55 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2015 11:47 ninazerg wrote:
99% of the time, these people are from the US and Canada. I don't know why. We're a very bad-mannered continent. Really. The most bad-mannered countries, in order, seem to be 1. Canada, 2. United States, 3. Poland, 4. Republic of Korea, 5. Mother Russia. And Russia isn't even that bm. WHAT? ;;
Since you are now a canadian in denial I'll post a proof in my next BR
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On October 11 2015 13:55 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2015 11:47 ninazerg wrote:
99% of the time, these people are from the US and Canada. I don't know why. We're a very bad-mannered continent. Really. The most bad-mannered countries, in order, seem to be 1. Canada, 2. United States, 3. Poland, 4. Republic of Korea, 5. Mother Russia. And Russia isn't even that bm. WHAT? ;;
I ain't saying everyone from Canada is an asshole. I'm saying people in NA tend to be worse than other countries.
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On October 11 2015 13:56 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
JAJAJAJA YOUR BM COUNTRIES DON'T EVEN LISTING PERU
xDXDXDXDXDXDXDD
What's everyone's problem with Peru? Most of the time they don't lag, and they don't talk at all.
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It is actually just me smurfing everyone on iCCup still
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On October 11 2015 16:23 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2015 13:56 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
JAJAJAJA YOUR BM COUNTRIES DON'T EVEN LISTING PERU
xDXDXDXDXDXDXDD What's everyone's problem with Peru? Most of the time they don't lag, and they don't talk at all.
I guess you're right. their plethora of cheese is different from shit talking
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I sometimes smurf to play 1v1OBS when there is someone bashing noobs, lol.
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On October 11 2015 16:23 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2015 13:56 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
JAJAJAJA YOUR BM COUNTRIES DON'T EVEN LISTING PERU
xDXDXDXDXDXDXDD What's everyone's problem with Peru? Most of the time they don't lag, and they don't talk at all.
they do lag, but don't speak english well enough to bm properly.
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On October 11 2015 20:02 kogeT wrote:
I sometimes smurf to play 1v1OBS when there is someone bashing noobs, lol.
I'm gonna host some 1v1 obs today, wanna play/obs?
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this made me want to play some BW, as soon as I get a mouse
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On October 11 2015 22:06 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2015 16:23 ninazerg wrote:On October 11 2015 13:56 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
JAJAJAJA YOUR BM COUNTRIES DON'T EVEN LISTING PERU
xDXDXDXDXDXDXDD What's everyone's problem with Peru? Most of the time they don't lag, and they don't talk at all. they do lag, but don't speak english well enough to bm properly.
i write in spanish to them all the time, I've actually found them to be nice people in. I 9pooled one guy and won, he asked for RE and i went 12hatch next game and won again, not a single bm and even typed gg.
The worst "bm" I got was just being ignored or kicked 
Actually the only BM I've ever got from Iccup was from BigFan, a canadian. True story.
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I think part of the smurf myth is the snowballin too. After an early advantage, if you are bad and know how to overcome it - or do not have the ability to do so - the game will become worse with every minute. But that doesnt mean you play a really good player.
I remember a game on FS, where i had 6 or 7 bases and the terran was down to his main and natural. At one point, he wrote in chat "attack me", but i was like "dude, i cant. if i attack, i lose the game. you have so much stuff, i cant run into". He must have thought i was really good at what i did, when in fact, it was just small advantages summing up and at one point his mind set of becoming more and more defensive and just survive.
The idea, that a fair game is a close game with a deciding finish in the end, doesnt work with snowballing from mistakes here and there. And thous games often leads to feel like smurf.
Also, basic rules of computergames:
If you win, its pure skill
If you lose, its pure luck, lag, cheat, whatever else excuse
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 11 2015 11:47 ninazerg wrote:
I sucked thats what she said ![[image loading]](http://i.minus.com/iblDS314DsQgED.gif)
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In reality I cannot relate to this at all because all I need to do is watch the replay or see their APM/stats to discover the truth... And I've never met a noob basher before, all I did was check to see how good my opponent was, and it's quite easy to tell if he was a rank above me or at my rank.
Apparently I've been missing something because I wasn't aware of people complaining about noob bashing ?
On October 12 2015 03:13 greenelve wrote:I think part of the smurf myth is the snowballin too. After an early advantage, if you are bad and know how to overcome it - or do not have the ability to do so - the game will become worse with every minute. But that doesnt mean you play a really good player. I remember a game on FS, where i had 6 or 7 bases and the terran was down to his main and natural. At one point, he wrote in chat "attack me", but i was like "dude, i cant. if i attack, i lose the game. you have so much stuff, i cant run into". He must have thought i was really good at what i did, when in fact, it was just small advantages summing up and at one point his mind set of becoming more and more defensive and just survive. The idea, that a fair game is a close game with a deciding finish in the end, doesnt work with snowballing from mistakes here and there. And thous games often leads to feel like smurf. Also, basic rules of computergames: If you win, its pure skill If you lose, its pure luck, lag, cheat, whatever else excuse Also + Show Spoiler +On October 11 2015 11:47 ninazerg wrote:
I sucked thats what she said
hahahaha
Also, basic rules of computergames:
If you win, its pure skill
If you lose, its pure luck, lag, cheat, whatever else excuse
Applies to a lot of things like sports, poker etc it's for people who have ego problems and need to protect their feelings or something.
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