EPTCasy's Fake FE [OSL spoiler] - Page 4
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On February 06 2007 22:27 ManaBlue wrote: I agree. It wouldn't have really mattered if some of those lings were outside flanking in, or if there were a few more really. July would have made sunks with that ling money if he knew the acad rush was coming. You can't defend that with a ling heavy/sunk light defense, all things equal. You sir, are just silly. Please don't ruin my thread by instigating a hundred people to flame you for a page. am i drunk or ur icon flashes? | ||
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sOnagi[3.33]
Korea (South)886 Posts
On February 07 2007 00:04 fikifiki wrote: I dont get you either  i'm saying that they factor in and i'm using this in my games. My favourite one is pretending i'm noob  PS. Yesterday in some game my opponent typed : fu gg ... ????? has quit the game so the limitations are with humans then right, not with the game as you previously stated? check back on what you wrote. | ||
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spetial
United States688 Posts
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fikifiki
Greece8 Posts
On February 07 2007 00:27 sOnagi wrote: so the limitations are with humans then right, not with the game as you previously stated? check back on what you wrote. Too many quotes ^^ Humans can do anything they want , starcraft has limitation in comparison to real army tactics. Units don't route , no morale , no discipline , always ready to fire and a billion other things that make startcraft what it is. So sc is basically general vs general . No army factors. Edit: Casy's move was something really simple , yet not being used , so it paid off.He was being smart , rare thing to see in games. Progamers do a lot of stuff like that but its difficult to understand even when you stand behind them and watch while they play.  I would be happy to see pimpest 2007  | ||
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spetial
United States688 Posts
On February 07 2007 00:35 fikifiki wrote: Too many quotes ^^ Humans can do anything they want , starcraft has limitation in comparison to real army tactics. Units don't route , no morale , no discipline , always ready to fire and a billion other things that make startcraft what it is. So sc is basically general vs general . No army factors. shhhh you are rambling about stuff that has NOTHING to do with how AWESOME casy's play was | ||
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GuYuTe-
United States550 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On February 07 2007 00:35 fikifiki wrote: Too many quotes ^^ Humans can do anything they want , starcraft has limitation in comparison to real army tactics. Units don't route , no morale , no discipline , always ready to fire and a billion other things that make startcraft what it is. So sc is basically general vs general . No army factors. army morale and discipline are not tactics, what suntzu said applies to all forms of competition, including starcraft. | ||
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
 ).The simple fact that small things like this aint done (often) proves how tight progaming is. So when you acctually do a mindtrick you have to be absolutly shure you can pull it off cause when it backfires you cant rely on your enemy doing a mistake himself. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36375 Posts
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Arcanis_Li
United States37 Posts
On February 07 2007 00:35 fikifiki wrote: Edit: Casy's move was something really simple , yet not being used , so it paid off.He was being smart , rare thing to see in games. Progamers do a lot of stuff like that but its difficult to understand even when you stand behind them and watch while they play. Right, what a silly simple thing that is underused. However, how long do you need to come up with such ideas while sit your ass there doing nothing but analyzing?? Now try to do that in the middle of a real battle while busy macroing(in case you are a noob that means clicking around and builting, you know, builtings and units). Also consider what is on the table: it's a do or die match! The skill of decision making is also involved. I doubt you even have the balls to take such risk. People tend to think they are superior than what they really are, thinking they can do all kinds of things while never put themselves into the actual situation. If you are into The Art of War, then you should know not to 纸上谈兵 | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
2. if you suddenly do that strat in the middle of a game you are a retard. the amount of mining time you lose + random map/positions/execution level/opponent's opinions towards sunkens makes it --------ev. don't flame over something so trivial with 28 posts please, especially with lame ones like, "if youre a noob, macro means..blah blah", c'mon man | ||
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Beamo
France1279 Posts
On February 07 2007 01:23 zulu_nation8 wrote: also july shouldve saw with ling how many rines casy had, that was carelessness on his part. ... That was the trick... Casy didn't fake 1 Rax CC, seeing the rine n° July had guessed there were 2 Rax, it's the fast acad + medic + firebat +stim he had that he hid to July letting him think he had a CC instead. The lings were clearly enough to stop that n° of marines, but not with firebats + medics and that's how Casy won the game. | ||
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Beamo
France1279 Posts
On February 07 2007 02:53 zulu_nation8 wrote: 1. that was planned ahead of game 2. if you suddenly do that strat in the middle of a game you are a retard. the amount of mining time you lose + random map/positions/execution level/opponent's opinions towards sunkens makes it --------ev. don't flame over something so trivial with 28 posts please, especially with lame ones like, "if youre a noob, macro means..blah blah", c'mon man No that was not planned... He didn't invent the trick during the game, that's for sure but you can't plan a trick like that. The conditions have to be right. He was going for a fast accad rush and seeing the conditions were right he used to trick to get an extra edge and it worked great, that's what makes it pimp ! | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On February 07 2007 03:02 Beamo wrote: ... That was the trick... Casy didn't fake 1 Rax CC, seeing the rine n° July had guessed there were 2 Rax, it's the fast acad + medic + firebat +stim he had that he hid to July letting him think he had a CC instead. The lings were clearly enough to stop that n° of marines, but not with firebats + medics and that's how Casy won the game. i meant to place a ling in front of t's natural. what are you talking bout | ||
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baelrog
Austria705 Posts
but to make genious builds work it always need minor mistakes by the opponent | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On February 07 2007 03:08 Beamo wrote: No that was not planned... He didn't invent the trick during the game, that's for sure but you can't plan a trick like that. The conditions have to be right. He was going for a fast accad rush and seeing the conditions were right he used to trick to get an extra edge and it worked great, that's what makes it pimp ! of course you can plan it if you know the map and your opponents style. when was the last time you saw normal academy cc vs 3 hatch? it's highly unlikely casys game plan was: hey its 12vs6 i'm gonna do a regular 2 rax early academy build and hope for the best. academy cc is a considerably worse build than cc academy on maps where zerg can easily sunken, have reguar base distances and zerg 3 hatches. | ||
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Cpt Obvious
Germany3073 Posts
that was a very nice move to say the least, and anybody who says he wasn't impressed imgaine being July and making different decisions based on the information he had. "thinking things through more thoroughly" isn't as easy as it sound when you are playing at this speed and under high pressure. i WOW'ed. | ||
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
On February 06 2007 21:36 azndsh wrote: Pimpest Play 2007 | ||
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