July now streaming BW! - Page 4

On August 06 2015 09:46 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Nice to see he's done his military service.

On August 07 2015 07:44 oGoZenob wrote:

over what timespan ?

On August 07 2015 17:42 Letmelose wrote:
My favourite player of all time.

The guy who ended iloveoov's 23 game win streak against zerg. The first OGN Starleague zerg champion. The first zerg holder of the Golden Mouse. The guy with the most monstrous winning percentage versus protoss, and undefeated against protoss players in any BO5 series. The legend who started to abuse the micromanagement of his units versus unsuspecting enemies just like SLayerS_'BoxeR' did before him. The guy who stuck with his shitty, poorly managed team despite having to give up his earnings to support his comrades, whilst simultaneously carrying his teamates in the ProLeague by playing 1v1, 1v1 off-race (and winning!), 2v2, as well as the ACE match, and ultimately playing a vital part in leading them to be the ProLeague champions in 2006.

He was never meant to be this great. He used to be just a mediocre terran player on a dying team, but his will to succeed, his rigorous training took the zerg race to a new level. He introduced the power of mutalisk with proper micromanagement, and utilized it in all three match-ups, and micromagement tricks taken for granted nowadays like mutalisks stomping over bionic force, or mass scourges paved way for a brand new method of playing the zerg race. He's the guy that raped corsairs with his "Turn of the Tide" moment two years before Jaedong made it popular. He made the famous minimap rape gifs with his supreme macromanagement versus TheROCK[3.33]. He was so stylish that even if he didn't have quite the guile of [NC]...YellOw before him, or the finesse of ipxzerg[gm] who took his throne as the king of zerg, it didn't matter because you could always rely on him to produce awesome games.

If he was more marketable as a player, he would have been much more celebrated as a player. Still one of the greatest of all time, despite all the hardships he endured as a professional gamer.

On August 07 2015 10:20 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
hope he plays in the one of the leagues.

the second bw match i watched was july vs best (the first was best's semi finals match and i forgot his opponent). july was so good in that finals, i think that was the time he got the golden mouse.

makes me wonder - best should be done with his military soon, right? that's going to be fun, also nostalgic, to see them play again.

On August 07 2015 21:07 FFW_Rude wrote:


Are you REALLY questionning the god of war's apm ? Like... Really ?

On June 29 2012 22:29 zimp wrote:
535 is the highest apm i've seen in a normal match longer than 10 minutes:
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=51308 (from 2005)
but G.s)Kyo wins highest spam rate as well: ~70% hotkey usage

a rep from 2011 with 518 apm
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=51309

fastest progamer now is By.Cola from CJ i think, he is usually above 400, often 450+, close to 500
By.HerO is fast too but rather ~300-400, just like NaDa was and many many other progamer nowdays. july peaking once at 800 doesn't mean shit lol. he just held down the keys...

the apm highly depends on the matchup, build, and length of the game. generally if there is more ongoing micro, and the rep is short, the apm will be higher.
for example zergs usually have higher apm when using 2 hatch muta in zvt because its a heavy micro build and requires both hatchery spam and constant muta micro that means many move clicks at the same time. (thats why by.hero had so high apm vs fantasy in a 9minute game... but in other cases he is "just" ~350)

i think all progamers have pretty high e-apm, especially in TvZ where terrans need to do so many things, 250-60 Eapm in tvz is not rare at all in progaming standards. PvZ on the other hand is usually much more defensive so eapm stays lower there i think. Bisu still has 200+ eapm there too tho-.- his eapm is especially high.

but you don't need to have high apm to be successful, Savior raped everyone back then with ~230 normal apm, Fantasy has ~250, Stork ~270. Movie reached the osl final with his 220ish normal apm. Clever play and concentrating on the key micros is the most important.

On August 07 2015 17:42 Letmelose wrote:
My favourite player of all time.

The guy who ended iloveoov's 23 game win streak against zerg. The first OGN Starleague zerg champion. The first zerg holder of the Golden Mouse. The guy with the most monstrous winning percentage versus protoss, and undefeated against protoss players in any BO5 series. The legend who started to abuse the micromanagement of his units versus unsuspecting enemies just like SLayerS_'BoxeR' did before him. The guy who stuck with his shitty, poorly managed team despite having to give up his earnings to support his comrades, whilst simultaneously carrying his teamates in the ProLeague by playing 1v1, 1v1 off-race (and winning!), 2v2, as well as the ACE match, and ultimately playing a vital part in leading them to be the ProLeague champions in 2006.

He was never meant to be this great. He used to be just a mediocre terran player on a dying team, but his will to succeed, his rigorous training took the zerg race to a new level. He introduced the power of mutalisk with proper micromanagement, and utilized it in all three match-ups, and micromagement tricks taken for granted nowadays like mutalisks stomping over bionic force, or mass scourges paved way for a brand new method of playing the zerg race. He's the guy that raped corsairs with his "Turn of the Tide" moment two years before Jaedong made it popular. He made the famous minimap rape gifs with his supreme macromanagement versus TheROCK[3.33]. He was so stylish that even if he didn't have quite the guile of [NC]...YellOw before him, or the finesse of ipxzerg[gm] who took his throne as the king of zerg, it didn't matter because you could always rely on him to produce awesome games.

If he was more marketable as a player, he would have been much more celebrated as a player. Still one of the greatest of all time, despite all the hardships he endured as a professional gamer.

On August 07 2015 19:34 oGoZenob wrote:

the concept of max apm doesnt make sense without timespan. Is it calculated over the course of a full minute ? It would be insane

On August 09 2015 14:56 Ty2 wrote:
Notice: I don't know Korean so I might have misinterpreted some things.

I've been downloading July's past broadcasts and watching them and I want to do a sort of recap of what he's done so far.

July has been teetering on the border of E and D rank for a while and recently has made it to rank 143 on Fish ladder and is now a solid D rank player. His record currently sits at 117 wins, 109 losses, and 3 disconnects.

July played some notable people from the past and the present. He played Britney(the person he played his last televised match against). He talked to HerO who July was kind of like a mentor to when they were on STX Soul(kind of like Jaedong with Killer). July has played Ssak and Bisu and in all of the aforementioned games, he has lost including against some players' offraces.

Playstyle wise he is still the same as before with an affinity for aggression and uses some uncommon builds such as 2 hatch lurker, 3 hatch lurker vs. T but is mostly standard in the other two matchups. Most games do not extend to the late game and end quickly. July sometimes masses units during the midgame such as 5 hatch hydra and defiler/lurker/ling push sacrificing economy which has garnered mixed results. July's ZvZ is standard and probably his best matchup at the moment and his ZvT and ZvP seem mostly the same in skill level. July 's massing style reminds me of Hero except somehow he ends up with 5 less control groups than Hero and gets stomped by Protoss.

MC(retired sc2 player) and Shark have made brief appearances on July's stream.

July watched a mokbang (eating show) of a guy(pretty fit too) eating 8 burgers in under 2 minutes. He watched the same guy in a recorded broadcast engage in an eating competition with Terror. They had to eat 5 cups of spicy instant ramen and some dumpling looking things. Terror dumped all of his spicy noodles onto the table and ate them voraciously while shirtless. The fit guy beat Terror by far with Terror having 2-3 more cups of spicy ramen worth of noodles to eat.

July was inspired and shortly after decides to compete against Terror in an eating competition. They both have to eat 10 hamburgers and 10 cans of energy drink in under 10 minutes. Neither person manages to finish the food in under 10 minutes. In the end July has eaten 5 and a half burgers, and drunken 5 energy drinks. Terror has eaten 5 burgers and drunken 5 energy drinks. Terror starts to argue with July that eating half of a burger doesn't count and that the competition is a tie. MC makes an appearance and eats a burger at July's request. July talks with Terror and watches his stream for 30 minutes afterwards.

July defeated Free on the map Nostalgia, his first win against a progamer so far.

July is somewhat enthusiastic and expressive whenever he wins or loses games waving both hands in the air. July reminisces watching his bo5 series against Best in the 2008 OSL finals and has watched previous games vs. Bisu during the Kespa scene on Youtube.

On August 09 2015 14:56 Ty2 wrote:


MC(retired sc2 player) and Shark have made brief appearances on July's stream.

July watched a mokbang (eating show) of a guy(pretty fit too) eating 8 burgers in under 2 minutes. He watched the same guy in a recorded broadcast engage in an eating competition with Terror. They had to eat 5 cups of spicy instant ramen and some dumpling looking things. Terror dumped all of his spicy noodles onto the table and ate them voraciously while shirtless. The fit guy beat Terror by far with Terror having 2-3 more cups of spicy ramen worth of noodles to eat.

July was inspired and shortly after decides to compete against Terror in an eating competition. They both have to eat 10 hamburgers and 10 cans of energy drink in under 10 minutes. Neither person manages to finish the food in under 10 minutes. In the end July has eaten 5 and a half burgers, and drunken 5 energy drinks. Terror has eaten 5 burgers and drunken 5 energy drinks. Terror starts to argue with July that eating half of a burger doesn't count and that the competition is a tie. MC makes an appearance and eats a burger at July's request. July talks with Terror and watches his stream for 30 minutes afterwards.