• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:18
CET 20:18
KST 04:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA1StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1596 users

Starcraft 2 by 2008 - Page 4

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
wishterran
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1045 Posts
January 16 2007 07:57 GMT
#61
time will tell whether or not we should take this seriously

if blizzard is purposely starting to hint at SC2, we'll all be the first to know...
mlaoxve
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden165 Posts
January 16 2007 08:08 GMT
#62
I cant imagine zerglings running around in 3D good enough

also, the brownish feeling of the original game and the other colours would have to stay, cause the feel of starcraft is cause of the amazing environments and the colours used
man i wish i was as cool as you
stuthedog
Profile Joined November 2006
Burundi262 Posts
January 16 2007 09:43 GMT
#63
they should just add three more races to starcraft through an expansion pack. any 3d or crap like that simply wont be starcraft.
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
January 16 2007 09:52 GMT
#64
just gimme wgt

i'm fine with this game - maybe update the ai a little, and patch a few things - add a few units or two

i guess i just want another brood war

like more then one war of the broods
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
January 16 2007 09:54 GMT
#65
im looking forward to a new sc, and i wont mind 3d but i just dont want heros and creeps n shit. I doubt that they will make it like wc3 tho. I think most ppl are just paranoid
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
January 16 2007 11:42 GMT
#66
On January 16 2007 18:43 stuthedog wrote:
they should just add three more races to starcraft through an expansion pack. any 3d or crap like that simply wont be starcraft.


3 More races? I can tell why you only have 28 posts. Balancing 6 races (TWENTY ONE MATCH-UPS) would be utterly impossible (unless every race is a mirror of another one). Recently I've started wondering if 4 would even be a good idea. I think they should add max one race, or just add/change units/tech of the current 3.
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
January 17 2007 08:49 GMT
#67
There are plenty of games that throw out large numbers of races, although usually with only minor variations (read: WH40K DOW, AOE series, Generals ZH). I think the only lofty goal left in RTS, and the only company who would have the time to work for balance of that many races would be Blizz. Therefore, I think a new graphics engine (an excellent 3-D or an _ASTOUNDING_ 2D) would be a nice target to shoot, but the key to the game will be the balance. Starcraft may have been an accident, but it definitely took Blizzard a good deal of time to sort out the proper values, matchups, counters, etc. I'd imagine, with a larger team, a larger budget, and the goals of creating a game of such obscene strategic flexability and scope and a perfectly balanced, competitive environment, Blizzard could once again corner the market on RTS against EA/Westwood, Chris Taylor, Sierra (lol publisher in-fighting, die vivendi!) and more.
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
January 17 2007 09:27 GMT
#68
Beta spots to bgh/fastest players, not us low money NOOBIES obviously. I'm shooting for about 2k12 maybe 2010, BUT NOT 11!
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
January 17 2007 09:29 GMT
#69
i usually think its gay, but cell shading would look real nice for sc2 i think =o
Only communists disconnect.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 17 2007 09:39 GMT
#70
As long as Uwe Bowl doesn't get the rights to a movie im happy with whatever Blizzard produces
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
January 17 2007 09:41 GMT
#71
On January 17 2007 18:27 Drowsy wrote:
Beta spots to bgh/fastest players, not us low money NOOBIES obviously. I'm shooting for about 2k12 maybe 2010, BUT NOT 11!


the world will end in 2012. I want to play it before i die!!!

(or so the aztecs believe...)
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
pariah
Profile Joined April 2003
United States29 Posts
January 17 2007 09:43 GMT
#72
SC2, if it comes out, will make ridiculous amounts of money. Of course Blizzard knows this, and this reason alone should give you hope.

I worry about the design team though, as Blizzard has lost some employees throughout the years and gained some new ones. I haven't really kept track though - has anyone?
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
January 17 2007 12:23 GMT
#73
On January 17 2007 18:43 pariah wrote:
SC2, if it comes out, will make ridiculous amounts of money. Of course Blizzard knows this, and this reason alone should give you hope.

I worry about the design team though, as Blizzard has lost some employees throughout the years and gained some new ones. I haven't really kept track though - has anyone?


Yes, they'll make what they make in a couple months off WoW.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
January 17 2007 12:42 GMT
#74
Pr0n speaks the truth, fact is, WoW, and mmorpgs in general, are far more profitable than games of any other genre. It's not necessarily because of the monthly dues either, that covers the server hardware and some extra, but they aren't making a fortune on it alone as many would believe. I think that the main reason mmorpgs like wow are so successful is because they're so approachable. Any old 12 year old can pick it up and be competative, whereas rts/fps can be immensely complicated and multifaceted, they can take years of practice and learning and natural talent to be competetive at. Mmorpgs appeal to the people who are turned off by the dedication and patience needed to be competitive at a game like broodwar. Those 75 days /played you put into wow to get level 60 with your full tier 2 set isn't even comparable to the effort the A- pgt player had to put in, and he actually had to be analytical, you just had to do the same shit over and over again. Not to mention, the goal of most mmorpgs isn't simply to best your opponents, so if you're just not a competitive person by nature, you can still have some fun with an mmorpg. The purepwnage guy, Jeremy, articulated it really well. Mmorpgs aren't really competitive games, it's more like a hobby, it's like assembling a train set or a model airplane in your basement. It, the train or your mmorpg character gets better and grows as you put in more hours, but the actual skill involved is fairly minimal, and it mostly boils down to who can spend the most tedious hours.

So, to end the rant, I do believe that blizzard, now that they've put their foot in the waters of the mmorpg market, will doubtfully ever leave it. It's more profitable, and they're still a company who's goal has to be to earn profits. Yes, I know we all wish they were some eccentric charity obsessed with creating high quality competetive online games, but they've got bills to pay, and who's to blame them? Don't expect sc2 soon, don't even expect it ever, don't expect anything that isn't an mmorpg. If they do churn something out, be grateful, otherwise project revolution is pretty much the best you can hope for.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 17 2007 14:08 GMT
#75
Come on, just because WoW is making money doesn't mean blizzard isn't doing other projects. To totally shift gears into doing all morpg is a drastic decision that not only involves the question of "what makes more money" but also "what does blizzard stand for."
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
pariah
Profile Joined April 2003
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-17 14:39:31
January 17 2007 14:38 GMT
#76
I agree Blizzard will stick to their cash cow WoW and MMORPGs in general, but who says Blizzard can't have two teams? They have before, after all...

On January 17 2007 23:08 oneofthem wrote:
Come on, just because WoW is making money doesn't mean blizzard isn't doing other projects. To totally shift gears into doing all morpg is a drastic decision that not only involves the question of "what makes more money" but also "what does blizzard stand for."


They don't stand for anything. They exist for one reason: to make money.
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
January 17 2007 14:50 GMT
#77
Games like WoW may bring in the cash, but its stuff like Starcraft that earn them good rep.
Moonlight Shadow
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 17 2007 15:17 GMT
#78


They don't stand for anything. They exist for one reason: to make money.
Brand recognition, plus, if there is money to be earned, why not go ahead and earn them? I dont think the microeconomics of the situation is all that damning.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-17 16:00:09
January 17 2007 15:59 GMT
#79
It won't be that hard to recreate BW as we know into 3D but with improvements like no scarab errors etc. A lot of you are just biased about WC3 which leads you to draw the conclusions about 3D engines.

They just need an extra race, a plausible storyline, and a better multiplayer system which will be easy.

Of course, there's the balancing issue but.. I have faith ~_~;

What I'm really thinking is.. this game has been out for too long and I've been in touch with this game from the very beginning but have wasted my time with a whole bunch other games. People have gotten too good! I want to kick some ass. I need a new game so we can all start from scratch
('''(G_G/'''')
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
January 17 2007 16:24 GMT
#80
On January 18 2007 00:59 Heen wrote:
It won't be that hard to recreate BW as we know into 3D but with improvements like no scarab errors etc. A lot of you are just biased about WC3 which leads you to draw the conclusions about 3D engines.

They just need an extra race, a plausible storyline, and a better multiplayer system which will be easy.

Of course, there's the balancing issue but.. I have faith ~_~;

What I'm really thinking is.. this game has been out for too long and I've been in touch with this game from the very beginning but have wasted my time with a whole bunch other games. People have gotten too good! I want to kick some ass. I need a new game so we can all start from scratch


Actually, any change in the game engine would change the game fairly drastically. Things like muta stacking, micro timing, vulture sliding by laying mines and the other fancy tricks we've come to associate with Starcraft depend very much on its unique 2D engine.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#60
WardiTV2644
IndyStarCraft 295
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 295
UpATreeSC 99
BRAT_OK 40
JuggernautJason40
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3548
Horang2 1115
Shuttle 664
sSak 51
scan(afreeca) 50
Aegong 16
ivOry 9
NaDa 5
Dota 2
Gorgc4794
qojqva3705
420jenkins308
BananaSlamJamma187
XcaliburYe127
League of Legends
rGuardiaN46
Counter-Strike
fl0m1078
byalli382
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu112
Other Games
Grubby1778
FrodaN1657
Beastyqt763
ceh9562
KnowMe223
ArmadaUGS121
Mew2King84
QueenE51
Trikslyr51
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 216
• Reevou 9
• Adnapsc2 2
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV422
League of Legends
• Nemesis3506
• imaqtpie1533
• TFBlade884
Other Games
• Shiphtur310
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 42m
WardiTV Korean Royale
16h 42m
OSC
21h 42m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 16h
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
BSL 21
5 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.