EPTWhat kind of gaming mouse should I get for BW? - Page 6
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10268 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
A lot of cheap mice have 1000 DPI with no switching option nowadays. I bought Logitech M100 and RX250 which look the most similar out there for legendary LMO (Logitech Mini Optical) which korean pro's of BW used to which had 400 DPI. Now both of my mice got 1000 DPI with no changable software. So is there a way to get 400 DPI maybe using Windows sensitivity? I heard from Scan that 4/11 is best but does it means I will get 400 DPI feeling with it? Why no 5/11 or 3/11? What is most/exact close? (also don't forget that BW is 640x480) | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1660 Posts
On October 31 2015 07:43 outscar wrote: Bumping for a serious reason because I see there were some experts here in this topic (especially Cyro) who can help me with my question. A lot of cheap mice have 1000 DPI with no switching option nowadays. I bought Logitech M100 and RX250 which look the most similar out there for legendary LMO (Logitech Mini Optical) which korean pro's of BW used to which had 400 DPI. Now both of my mice got 1000 DPI with no changable software. So is there a way to get 400 DPI maybe using Windows sensitivity? I heard from Scan that 4/11 is best but does it mean I will get 400 DPI feeling with it? Why no 5/11 or 3/11? What is most/exact close? (also don't forget that BW is 640x480) I won't be able to answer your question but to be honest with you, since I switch from ps2 mouse to usb mouse i never felt a difference again... I think the mousepad you chose would make a much more difference than the DPI, if you have a rx250 which is mine, I personally use a surface 1030. | ||
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Sero
United States692 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/x0eht9d.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gTO7i31.jpg) Mouse: Commatech M1 Note: With Logtiech Mini Optical Mouse(400dpi), I put the mouse speed on the default(6/11). | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
@iFU.pauline Well, I'm not really familiar with all types of surfaces and not sure if it's impact for mouse is really huge to consider but as far as I know from what I got that Razer Control edition's are for RTS and Speed edition's are for FPS. F.e. KesPA mousepads surface is made alike Control edition's, so best choice for BW is non sliding surface. I think I saw Func Surface 1030 most times in my life but can't get one here sadly. @Sero I really feel difference between 400 DPI and 1000 DPI - last one is really fast for me and I can't properly micro. Yes, I'm sure that I can get used but everyone got his own style and thus different hand movements. Most say that DPI has nothing to do with sensitivity and speed but in real it really matters and affects speed of cursor. Scan's mouse settings seems by far perfect and most suiting. After making couple tests I switched 4/11 and now can split my scv's like god. Also I was really paranoiac about "Enhance pointer precision" after reading posts that some mice/programs can turn it on automatically to enable mouse acceleration even if you ticked it off so I edited registry to disable this fuckery. I can't really remember exact registry changes but here you can find so many options: http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html @LaStScan Scan, if you got LMO do you feel the same 400 DPI (default 6/11) to comparison from your 1000 DPI Commatech mouse when you switch it to 4/11 sensitivity? If so every mouse with 1000 DPI should feel like 400 DPI with those settings. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
lowering sens below 6/11 makes windows only move 1 pixel after a certain number of sensor counts. For 4/11, your sens is effectively halved and it's not too bad, but is maybe noticable in minor ways compared to just running at half DPI. 5/11 is 0.75x sens and it moves for 3 pixels every 4 counts so it is very jittery/inconsistent. As you move the mouse sideways, it moves 1 pixel then another pixel then another pixel and then it doesn't move at all on the next sensor count before moving a fourth pixel on the 5'th count, so there is a disruption in the smoothness of the cursor which has some bad effects. all of my recent mice could set low sens effectively, my xornet did 500dpi; g402/g303 will go down lower (3366 sensor in g303 will do 200 to any value you want in steps of 50, for example) | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
I read a guide where 1-2-3-4-6/11 regimes are alright when 5 is like you said inconsistent and 7/8/9/10/11 will skip pixels. Thanks for explanation. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Getting 400 DPI is impossible if your mouse isn't 800 DPI MANY mice with good sensors support 400dpi well these days. It's just not a common DPI because mainstream screens have doubled in pixel height and tripled in width | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
my suggestion would be to prioritize picking a comfortable/light mouse. i have about 10-15 mice and im currently using a SS Kinzu @ 800 DPI, it fits my hand perfectly and i like the overall feel of it. everyone is gonna have different preferences tho. P.S: is there an updated version of this list? http://cdn.overclock.net/1/1f/1fea65b7_Mouse-Sizing-Chart.jpeg ![[image loading]](http://cdn.overclock.net/1/1f/1fea65b7_Mouse-Sizing-Chart.jpeg) | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On October 31 2015 13:27 outscar wrote: Thanks all for feedback. @iFU.pauline Well, I'm not really familiar with all types of surfaces and not sure if it's impact for mouse is really huge to consider but as far as I know from what I got that Razer Control edition's are for RTS and Speed edition's are for FPS. F.e. KesPA mousepads surface is made alike Control edition's, so best choice for BW is non sliding surface. I think I saw Func Surface 1030 most times in my life but can't get one here sadly. @Sero I really feel difference between 400 DPI and 1000 DPI - last one is really fast for me and I can't properly micro. Yes, I'm sure that I can get used but everyone got his own style and thus different hand movements. Most say that DPI has nothing to do with sensitivity and speed but in real it really matters and affects speed of cursor. Scan's mouse settings seems by far perfect and most suiting. After making couple tests I switched 4/11 and now can split my scv's like god. Also I was really paranoiac about "Enhance pointer precision" after reading posts that some mice/programs can turn it on automatically to enable mouse acceleration even if you ticked it off so I edited registry to disable this fuckery. I can't really remember exact registry changes but here you can find so many options: http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html @LaStScan Scan, if you got LMO do you feel the same 400 DPI (default 6/11) to comparison from your 1000 DPI Commatech mouse when you switch it to 4/11 sensitivity? If so every mouse with 1000 DPI should feel like 400 DPI with those settings. No, I felt it feels little awkward. Does anyone know where I can test my mouse's DPI? I mentioned as 400 DPI because some people were saying 400 and 800. I also have tried using Zowie Mico mouse, and I found out that 400 DPI(6/11 setting) did not feel the same as Logitech Mini Optical(6/11). Logitech Mini Optical mouse might be 500 DPI. Who knows? I still have a box of Logitech Mini Optical mouse(Football Edition), but it does not tell me anything about DPI. Logitech Mini Optical 400 DPI (6/11) setting did not feel the same as Commatech M1 1000 DPI (4/11). Also, Zowie Mico 800 DPI (4/11) setting did not feel the same as Commatech M1 1000 DPI (4/11). And Logitech Mini Optical 400 DPI (6/11) setting did not feel the same as Zowie Mico 400 DPI (6/11). | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
That's why I generally use Razer mice. I just clean it out with some cloth once every two months when it starts being ineffective. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Does anyone know where I can test my mouse's DPI? The easiest and most effective way is to measure it physially. Move 4 inches and see if the line is 1600 pixels do it 5 times some mice say one DPI but actually do another. Like there are some "1800dpi" mice out there that are closer to 1600 | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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bypLy
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
On November 02 2015 14:53 bypLy wrote: the question is pretty vague, which league exactly do you want to play on ICCUP? For D+ you need at least to spend 50$. However if you want to play in the higher leagues (above C+) you should defintly consider spendings at least 100$. lol what ? It's not how it works. | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On November 02 2015 18:18 TT1 wrote: i wonder how good Bisu would be if he played with a 100$ mouse as opposed to his 10$ one.. $ is not the important thing. Whichever feels comfortable, the player should stick to that mouse. | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On April 07 2015 09:18 GGzerG wrote: Razer Abyssus, it is the best mouse ever made for RTS and is perfect for BW, maybe even better for BW than SC2. I concur! | ||
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