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Most significant BW third-party program?

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51436 Posts
February 05 2015 17:04 GMT
#1
Over the course of Starcraft's long and decorated lifetime, there have been a variety of third party programs developed by fans to help improve the game we all enjoy.

However, some of these programs had so much of an impact that they helped shape how the game has been played significantly.

I propose three programs that have changed the history of Starcraft and it's up to you to vote which one you think has had the most impact.


1. BWChart by jca
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Arguably the king of third-party BW programs and the program that gave birth to the term 'actions per minute'. BWChart allowed users for the first time to look right inside of game replays, from the amount of units produced to how many exact resources each player had harvested.

In addition, BWChart was also able to detect whether a player had map hacked or not by detecting unit selection among fog of war - leading to hack makers to rethink their programming methods and catching a lot of prominent players out.

Lastly, BWChart provided hotkey maps which allowed people to analyze player's hotkeys. In an age where smurfing on ladder was prevalent, hotkey 'detectives' were called upon frequently by the community in order to find out which professional Korean players were smurfing on which account on the major ladders.

2. ChaosLauncher and Latency Changer by MasterOfChaos
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Building on the foundations provided by the program BWLauncher, ChaosLauncher was the definite launcher program for Brood War. With the ability to utilize dozens of plugins at any given time, ChaosLauncher had a very easy-to-use interface and was updated frequently by its creator.

However, the main draw of ChaosLauncher was a plugin created by MasterOfChaos himself called 'Latency Changer'. Before the creation of Latency Changer, players (especially professionals in Korea that did not live in the same house) had to rely on a LAN emulation program known as Hamachi to help recreate the settings of practicing under LAN/offline latency. However, this meant that players would be distant away from the world of battle.net, missing out on contact and chatting with friends etc.

The creation of Latency Changer completely changed the landscape of battle.net for everyone and made the game a lot more cleaner to play, especially in an age where mutalisk micromanagement was starting to shape the metagame heavily. The implementation of the plug-in into their launcher (along with their anti-hack), helped iCCup become the premier BW ladder system after the demise of PGTour.

BWScanner by TravelToAiur
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These days, many of us can't fathom to play people without some sort of anti-hack, whether it would be wLauncher or iCCup Launcher. However, before BWScanner and BWChart arrived, a lot of skepticism would loom over major tournaments online as the suspicion of hacking would always be apparent without the prevalence of anti-hack software.

This would change when TravelToAiur, an Italian player, released BWScanner, a program which built upon the foundations of a previous anti-map hack program, BWSentinel. It would message you if your opponent was map hacking while using the program, and while it may seem very archaic to us now, was actually an effective method against the map hacks developed at that time.

Like BWChart, BWScanner was used as a tool to stop competitive players from map hacking, and those that tried to push the boundaries would be punished. Several instances of players being caught by BWScanner had occurred over its life time. BWScanner became obsolete once launchers for the competitive ladders of the time (PGTour) were developed with their own anti-hack software.


Poll: Most significant third party program?

(Vote): BWChart by jca
(Vote): ChaosLauncher by MasterOfChaos
(Vote): BWScanner by TravelToAiur
(Vote): Other (suggest in the thread)

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51436 Posts
February 05 2015 17:05 GMT
#2
Some other third party programs I didn't mention.

Replay with Audio by jca - Audio commentaries BUILT INTO replays?!?!?!
SCMDraft - Changed Starcraft mapping completely.
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hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
February 05 2015 17:23 GMT
#3
It's gotta be lan latency.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
jca2 *
Profile Joined March 2006
France52 Posts
February 05 2015 17:37 GMT
#4
Yeah baby! I voted for the "the king of third-party BW programs".
Thank you GTR you made my day.
APM? Never heard of it...
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
February 05 2015 17:40 GMT
#5
What about PenguinPlug!?

It was a hard choice between BWChart and ChaosLauncher. I won't say which one I voted for since jca just posted above me haha.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 18:00:20
February 05 2015 17:57 GMT
#6
edit: This post is just a shout out to similar programs that build of the impactful ones in the OP.
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BwRepInfo is really good. For BWChart fans, definitely check this out! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/BwRepInfo

MCA64 Launcher is also extremely useful as it combines a lot of things we want.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
February 05 2015 17:59 GMT
#7
wlauncher
Writerptrk
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland299 Posts
February 05 2015 18:07 GMT
#8
I would vote MCA64Launcher because of this two powerful features: UPnP support and streaming.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4986 Posts
February 05 2015 18:22 GMT
#9
BWChart! This helped me identify and dodge hackers back in my b.net days.
Thanks a lot, jca2.
FBH #1!
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
February 05 2015 18:26 GMT
#10
On February 06 2015 02:23 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
It's gotta be lan latency.


I agree.
Battle net is unplayable. Mutalisk micro feels like it's under water
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 19:02:02
February 05 2015 19:01 GMT
#11
MasterofChaos and the Lan Latency. Plus that guy was the younger/older ( i don't recall) brother of my Clan ally: Aop)Werzerg(
So, there's some bias in my judgement ^^
Broodwar for life!
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
February 05 2015 19:07 GMT
#12
For bw in general its gotta be BWChart. That thing was really impressive at the time. For me personally it was Doxstar. Made the game a lot more enjoyable for me
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LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
February 05 2015 19:55 GMT
#13
The BWAPI:
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It allows AI researchers to use StarCraft for research in RTS games.
Besides that, it also has functionality for increasing and decreasing the game speed during the game ( even in Human vs Human), up to 16x fastest speed.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
February 05 2015 20:19 GMT
#14
Penguinplug should have gotten a shoutout, more so than BWScanner.

Latency-Changer itself is far more valuable than Chaoslauncher, as there were already other launchers and have since been (see MCA wlauncher) etc. that can launch multiple plugins. Nonetheless I still use Chaos because MoC made the best thing ever.

I'd say BWRepInfo and the Advbnet plugin from Advloader were more valuable for me personally than BWChart, as it really helped differentiate between pure speed and actual utility for myself and others. (Also it doesn't crash when you load a thousand replays etc.)

As a replay fanatic I remember replay with text as a feature that was not native to BW and that definitely made watching replays far more interesting especially in team games and UMS where you could follow through players conversations and thought processes.


Big shoutout to Xenotron for making the W-Mode plugin, often allowing people to play BW that had all sorts of OS issues etc. and allowing you to obs games while doing other things.

Also Obsmode and Statinfo plugins by SmK, they helped be understand the value of worker economic advantage so much better and also made for a much more entertaining play/obs experience.









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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 21:26:14
February 05 2015 21:12 GMT
#15
BWchart is the clear winner. Jca is essentially responsible for the iconic APM idea. Before this no one even talked about apm. There was no way to measure it. I dont think the newer people appreciate what an awesome advance this was for brood war or gaming in general. Sure it may not seem like much now but back then it changed everything. It was exciting to finally see who was really the fastest pro gamer; before then everyone just had to guess. It gave all the newbs like me something to focus on, a real tangible number to measure our game play and improve. When bwchart first came out it was mind blowing.

Close 2nd is lan latency.


Also i'd like to give a shout-out to the newest launcher, mca64. Really helped my lag problems(direct ip, no dns etc) with iccup and has a nice built in apm tool.
Not to mention the color fix, high res options, window mode, and more.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
February 05 2015 21:29 GMT
#16
On February 06 2015 04:55 LetaBot wrote:
The BWAPI:
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It allows AI researchers to use StarCraft for research in RTS games.
Besides that, it also has functionality for increasing and decreasing the game speed during the game ( even in Human vs Human), up to 16x fastest speed.

This is very cool...
Pro-gamers should channel their inner DBZ and play at 2x speed (gravity?). If you can play a game at 2x speed, 1x should be easy right?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
~chut~
Profile Joined September 2003
France1317 Posts
February 05 2015 21:38 GMT
#17
For me, obviously bwchart. It basically started the whole thing, opened the way to 3rd party programs to make BW even better.
The APM concept is awesome, before that we used to speculate on how fast someone was or not, and it was nearly impossible to find out about shared accounts. BWchart became known at the time of the bananasplit controversy and it helped a lot in that case of obvious cheating. Lots of features were also helpful to analyse the game.
It changed the game more than any other program, imo.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10670 Posts
February 05 2015 22:08 GMT
#18
Penguin Plug, and Advanced Launcher should be added. Adv Launcher was REALLY good
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9498 Posts
February 05 2015 22:44 GMT
#19
ReXplorer! Manifesto7 agrees as well if I remember correctly.

Too bad it doesn't work on Windows Vista+
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tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3696 Posts
February 05 2015 22:48 GMT
#20
BWChart definitely gets my vote, but PenguinPlug is definitely important as it started out the long chain of various popular launchers that improved upon the BW experience over the years. It also caused Blizzard to implement some new features in BW (and we all know that getting Blizzard to fix and write new code for BW is basically impossible )

RWA's will always have a special place in my heart though, as they're what got me into BW heavily in the first place (and how I found teamliquid!).
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