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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 00:31:04
January 21 2015 00:28 GMT
#441
On January 19 2015 20:47 Liquid`Snute wrote:
i know that bw players are superstars and all, but from a normal person standpoint i'd say making 90,000,000 KRW/year safe for playing video games is a pretty chill deal. if only ...

the rest was a very saddening read :/


Snute you were on EG-TL when Coach Park was the head coach, does any of this sound like it fits him? Setting allegations against a player to force them off a team? (because it really doesn't to me)
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
January 21 2015 00:48 GMT
#442
i really doubt park was in a position (or had incentive) to do anything like that on EG-TL
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
January 21 2015 05:47 GMT
#443
In happier news, Bisu just saw that Boxer is going to become a father and sent a text to congratulate him. The baby's pre-birth nickname will be "Marine-e" (of course...)

Link

Bisu then spent some time searching for images of Boxer. "He never gets old." "He looks really good in person." "People make fun of his head being big, but it's not that big in person." "Unlike sSak (chortle)" "He was best-looking when he was in ACE." "I remember when he came back from the Air Force and we met in the practice room for the first time."
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
January 21 2015 06:10 GMT
#444
On January 21 2015 09:28 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 20:47 Liquid`Snute wrote:
i know that bw players are superstars and all, but from a normal person standpoint i'd say making 90,000,000 KRW/year safe for playing video games is a pretty chill deal. if only ...

the rest was a very saddening read :/


Snute you were on EG-TL when Coach Park was the head coach, does any of this sound like it fits him? Setting allegations against a player to force them off a team? (because it really doesn't to me)

No - it seems really out of character to me. didn't pick up on anything that would suggest it, from my personal experience he's a great guy.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 21 2015 09:32 GMT
#445
On January 21 2015 15:10 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 09:28 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 19 2015 20:47 Liquid`Snute wrote:
i know that bw players are superstars and all, but from a normal person standpoint i'd say making 90,000,000 KRW/year safe for playing video games is a pretty chill deal. if only ...

the rest was a very saddening read :/


Snute you were on EG-TL when Coach Park was the head coach, does any of this sound like it fits him? Setting allegations against a player to force them off a team? (because it really doesn't to me)

No - it seems really out of character to me. didn't pick up on anything that would suggest it, from my personal experience he's a great guy.


that was my impression, thanks
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 22 2015 09:06 GMT
#446
On January 20 2015 13:28 digmouse wrote:
Holy shit if those CJ stuff are true.


CJ does indeed push its progamers who look pretty and neglected the ones that weren't now that I think about it.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 09:25:42
January 22 2015 09:24 GMT
#447
On January 19 2015 05:45 lemmata wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

(Z)EffOrt recently dropped some major bombshells in a broadcast with former teammate (T)Iris. The two got very drunk (and the stream was restricted to ages 19+).

Part 1: After (Z)EffOrt beat (T)Flash to win the Korean Air OSL, he was planning to sign if CJ offered him a contract for 100,000,000 KRW/year. However, CJ was not as interested in making (Z)EffOrt happy after the merger with Hite (yet another fallout of the match-fixing scandal). Eventually, they agreed to a figure of 90,000,000 KRW/year. However, then CJ went ahead and leaked an article to the press that (Z)EffOrt was retiring. It is unclear if this was a negotiation tactic, but (Z)EffOrt's first retirement was at least semi-forced upon him as a cost-cutting measure. This reminds me of what happened to (P)JangBi when he was given a low-ball contract offer and went on a long losing streak at least in part because he was depressed and angry.

Part 2: (Z)EffOrt says that his second retirement (SC2) was because he was unjustly suspected of match-fixing. He was apparently doing poorly against SC2 Protoss. The coaching staff and the scrubs on the team started suspecting both (Z)EffOrt and (Z)Hydra of match-fixing. (Z)EffOrt says they denied suspecting him but he knew what they were saying behind his back. It was serious enough that our man (T)XellOs, retired from pro-gaming but still a CJ employee at the time, vigorously came to their defense. (Z)EffOrt says that his mother's health played a role, but the main reason that he retired was because he couldn't stand being suspected of match-fixing like that. (Z)EffOrt said that he was absolutely furious at Coach Park (formerly of SKT) for doing this to him and said that Coach Park shouldn't touch him if he had any sense. Apparently, (T)XellOs immediately quit his job at CJ when (Z)EffOrt retired and (Z)Hydra left. The day after this broadcast, a sober (Z)EffOrt said that he was embarrassed to have shown himself getting so drunk, but that he doesn't take back anything he said about Coach Park. (Z)EffOrt said that Coach Park is an SOB and that he would stab him to death if he could.

My Analysis: These are the far-reaching consequences of the match-fixing scandal. CJ was never a team that was super interested in winning. CJ had a team because CJ owns Ongamenet and Ongamenet needed to fill Proleague with enough teams. Its finances were strapped because of the forced merger with Hite Sparkyz (which was itself previously sponsored by Ongamenet). It didn't really have an incentive to support stars who did not have mass appeal (code: not good looking). Also, the match-fixing scandal seems to have made every player into a potential suspect and made it possible for teams to harass players into retirement if they wanted to save money. (P)Zeus had previously told the true story of why (P)Britney was removed from Hite immediately after the match-fixing scandal. In that story, the team had budget cuts and just needed to get rid of an ugly-looking gamer who wasn't good enough to compensate for his bad looks before merging with CJ. (P)Zeus said that they internally accused (P)Britney of match-fixing in order to obtain some sort of justification for moving him to Woongjin. Effort has received a lot of criticism on Afreeca for what he said about Coach Park, who has a great reputation in Korea, but somehow I get the feeling that what Effort claims isn't too far from the truth.

The only real conclusion is this: FXXX the guys who participated in the match-fixing scandals. They ruined many careers besides just their own.


Holy shit that's... a surprising read.
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lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
January 22 2015 22:04 GMT
#448
Jangbi says he lived with Boxer for two months after retiring. That's interesting.

Also, Jangbi told a story about Boxer taking him to a water park in his BMW when Jangbi was 17 years old. He was apparently in awe that he was hanging out with a pro gamer.

Jangbi says that he must have a recognizable face because he often hears people say "That's Jangbi". He says some of these random strangers sometimes offer to pay for his food or drinks.
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
January 22 2015 22:14 GMT
#449
^^Too cool, thanks for sharing. I imagine these progamers must have enjoyed the star treatment akin to that of a footballer in US or Europe

These days, I wonder if LoL progamers are that recognizable...
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51478 Posts
January 23 2015 01:13 GMT
#450
players like faker and madlife will probably have the same popularity as what boxer or yellow did back in the day.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 23 2015 05:00 GMT
#451
bisu now has his own youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh1gT2VrL-DXJup7HTx8BGw
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 23 2015 09:18 GMT
#452
I remember watching on TV, NaDa went to a signing event for some teddy bears(?) in a mall. He didn't get a lot of fans signing up at first because he was at the back. Then he was to told to move up to the entrance, then fans queued up like crazy.

Bisu youtube channel!

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sagi
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland346 Posts
January 24 2015 12:38 GMT
#453
I really hope Effort was a bit too drunk and his rant is based on assumptions that he grossly exaggerated. But I know this is propably wishful thinking. Especially if that Britney case is true. "You've dedicated your life to the business we make money from, but you're just too damn ugly so we're going to smoke you out like a bunch of sociopaths." What the hell...?
hi patrik!
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
January 24 2015 21:13 GMT
#454
Those are some serious statements. I hardly think it'll go away into nothingness.

raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
January 25 2015 17:10 GMT
#455
Sucks to be a CJ and a Starcraft fan right now . CJ is just a pathetic shell from what once was , and all started with the match fixing scandal and Savior . Barely any memorable player left . If Coach Park really did accuse him of match-fixing without any evidence , but just his poor performance vs protoss , he should resign as a coach .
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
February 09 2015 05:15 GMT
#456
Larva just streamed himself sleeping lol
aka myheronoob
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
February 09 2015 05:45 GMT
#457
On February 09 2015 14:15 Terranlisk wrote:
Larva just streamed himself sleeping lol

But he's dreaming of BW and zergling run-bys, so it counts!
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parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1080 Posts
February 09 2015 06:19 GMT
#458
I have problems with the afreeca player keeps buffering a lot. Is there a way to make it use a bigger buffer cache somewhow?
mostly harmless
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
February 09 2015 08:29 GMT
#459
On February 09 2015 15:19 parkin wrote:
I have problems with the afreeca player keeps buffering a lot. Is there a way to make it use a bigger buffer cache somewhow?


Use livestreamer to watch afreeca streams, this plays the stream through vlc thus avoiding the laggy flash player
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50328 Posts
February 09 2015 16:18 GMT
#460
On February 09 2015 14:15 Terranlisk wrote:
Larva just streamed himself sleeping lol


not the weirdest thing I've seen on afreeca.
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