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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 19:50:32
January 12 2015 19:50 GMT
#401
Apparently as I am viewing Bisu stream currently, Bisu has yet to have his YouTube reporting application go through. (This is at near 5 AM KST)

He keeps mentioning how the application doesn't submit thru and none of his viewers seem to know how to properly process the application.....
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 20:12:43
January 12 2015 20:07 GMT
#402
Too busy to currently do another big summary for Bisu stream again so I'll just make a very short short brief few big notable things that occurred past hour on Bisu stream:

Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:00 AM ~ 5:00 AM KST @ Bisu Afreeca Stream

+ Show Spoiler [ChatCraft Short Summary] +
Bisu continues to do his "chatcraft" session with his viewers way into 4 AM, 5 AM in the morning.

Bisu visits Terror's online shopping clothing mall store where it features Terror and this girl (girlfriend or wife, not 100% sure) and is amazed how well made it is. Bisu wants to do some sort of online shopping mall too, how his viewers will buy it all up and $$$.

Bisu says that girl is his girlfriend but one of his viewers mention the girl on Terror's shopping mall page is his wife and also that the girl most likely developed that website.

Bisu says how Terror's viewer audience is like 50,000, wishes best for Terror and how Terror did good favors for Bisu in the past.

Bisu saying about YouTube and how he tried to report but it wouldn't submit/process his reporting application regarding someone else uploading his Afreeca VODs.

Bisu states he doesn't do Facebook but mentions the usage of YouTube/Facebook to increase fame.

As for his future YouTube plans, Bisu mentioning how some of his youtube video uploads would be like his dragoon control highlights and people will be interested in those leading up to increase interest boom in SC BW.

Bisu mentions how Movie earns 100,000s won on his video lessons? One viewer saying Bisu can earn 10x more!

Bisu mentioning Movie also does some sort of cellphone business. Bisu saying how he wants to do something too but admits he's lazy while Movie is proactive.

In terms of video editing and managing his YouTube VODs, Bisu mentions about one of his viewers going to record his videos and edit/manage videos and already found someone on his stream willing to do so. (So he already found people to assign, manage and do video editing all for him basically).
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
January 14 2015 05:23 GMT
#403
I'm pretty sure nevake and SC BW are TL users (I think nevake is the official TL BW video archive?). I didn't think nevake had any FPVODs from Afreeca though, I thought it was all casts of games.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
January 14 2015 05:43 GMT
#404
^^Yea "SC BW" is my account -- I've followed Stratos and set my Bisu VODs to unlisted

(So he already found people to assign, manage and do video editing all for him basically).
Ah, to be a monarch presiding over his minions...
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parisisokay
Profile Joined December 2011
46 Posts
January 14 2015 09:16 GMT
#405
does anybody know who goes by the fish id "Painter"?
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
January 14 2015 09:35 GMT
#406
All the featured streams for BW arent showing up for me in the sidebar ,does anyone know why?

I have double checked my site settings and it should be there.
: o )
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9529 Posts
January 14 2015 12:46 GMT
#407
On January 14 2015 18:35 ShloobeR wrote:
All the featured streams for BW arent showing up for me in the sidebar ,does anyone know why?

I have double checked my site settings and it should be there.

Afreeca changed their API... for the worse. R1ch is looking into it now.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
January 14 2015 13:43 GMT
#408
Ahh, thanks : )
Best of luck to R1ch then!
: o )
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 14 2015 16:55 GMT
#409
R1ch you can do it!
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
sickkungen
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden179 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 18:39:38
January 14 2015 18:25 GMT
#410
Birthday wishes to Pusan turning 31
(including Sea, Jaehoon, Shark, Larva, Mong and more)


https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=568631386613662&set=vb.100004004185060&type=2&theater
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 14 2015 18:28 GMT
#411
So, can the snipealot streams be re-featured in the meanwhile?


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The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
January 14 2015 19:17 GMT
#412
Is it my imagination or did I see savior hanging out at terror's house a couple weeks ago? That guy is always hanging out with the wrong crowd.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 15 2015 00:35 GMT
#413
On January 15 2015 04:17 jello_biafra wrote:
Is it my imagination or did I see savior hanging out at terror's house a couple weeks ago? That guy is always hanging out with the wrong crowd.

It's not your imagination. sAviOr hangs out at Terror's place a lot.

Snipe can use some featuring too. ^^
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 15 2015 00:51 GMT
#414
day3 ssl soon HYPE
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
January 15 2015 09:20 GMT
#415
On January 15 2015 04:17 jello_biafra wrote:
Is it my imagination or did I see savior hanging out at terror's house a couple weeks ago? That guy is always hanging out with the wrong crowd.


no its the other way around
terror is the wrong crowd to hang out with
remember the soy sauce kids
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9529 Posts
January 15 2015 12:40 GMT
#416
Afreeca streams all fixed. Praise be to r1ch!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 15 2015 15:11 GMT
#417
Praise be to r1ch!
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-18 20:54:08
January 18 2015 20:45 GMT
#418
(Z)EffOrt recently dropped some major bombshells in a broadcast with former teammate (T)Iris. The two got very drunk (and the stream was restricted to ages 19+).

Part 1: After (Z)EffOrt beat (T)Flash to win the Korean Air OSL, he was planning to sign if CJ offered him a contract for 100,000,000 KRW/year. However, CJ was not as interested in making (Z)EffOrt happy after the merger with Hite (yet another fallout of the match-fixing scandal). Eventually, they agreed to a figure of 90,000,000 KRW/year. However, then CJ went ahead and leaked an article to the press that (Z)EffOrt was retiring. It is unclear if this was a negotiation tactic, but (Z)EffOrt's first retirement was at least semi-forced upon him as a cost-cutting measure. This reminds me of what happened to (P)JangBi when he was given a low-ball contract offer and went on a long losing streak at least in part because he was depressed and angry.

Part 2: (Z)EffOrt says that his second retirement (SC2) was because he was unjustly suspected of match-fixing. He was apparently doing poorly against SC2 Protoss. The coaching staff and the scrubs on the team started suspecting both (Z)EffOrt and (Z)Hydra of match-fixing. (Z)EffOrt says they denied suspecting him but he knew what they were saying behind his back. It was serious enough that our man (T)XellOs, retired from pro-gaming but still a CJ employee at the time, vigorously came to their defense. (Z)EffOrt says that his mother's health played a role, but the main reason that he retired was because he couldn't stand being suspected of match-fixing like that. (Z)EffOrt said that he was absolutely furious at Coach Park (formerly of SKT) for doing this to him and said that Coach Park shouldn't touch him if he had any sense. Apparently, (T)XellOs immediately quit his job at CJ when (Z)EffOrt retired and (Z)Hydra left. The day after this broadcast, a sober (Z)EffOrt said that he was embarrassed to have shown himself getting so drunk, but that he doesn't take back anything he said about Coach Park. (Z)EffOrt said that Coach Park is an SOB and that he would stab him to death if he could.

My Analysis: These are the far-reaching consequences of the match-fixing scandal. CJ was never a team that was super interested in winning. CJ had a team because CJ owns Ongamenet and Ongamenet needed to fill Proleague with enough teams. Its finances were strapped because of the forced merger with Hite Sparkyz (which was itself previously sponsored by Ongamenet). It didn't really have an incentive to support stars who did not have mass appeal (code: not good looking). Also, the match-fixing scandal seems to have made every player into a potential suspect and made it possible for teams to harass players into retirement if they wanted to save money. (P)Zeus had previously told the true story of why (P)Britney was removed from Hite immediately after the match-fixing scandal. In that story, the team had budget cuts and just needed to get rid of an ugly-looking gamer who wasn't good enough to compensate for his bad looks before merging with CJ. (P)Zeus said that they internally accused (P)Britney of match-fixing in order to obtain some sort of justification for moving him to Woongjin. Effort has received a lot of criticism on Afreeca for what he said about Coach Park, who has a great reputation in Korea, but somehow I get the feeling that what Effort claims isn't too far from the truth.

The only real conclusion is this: FXXX the guys who participated in the match-fixing scandals. They ruined many careers besides just their own.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-18 21:47:49
January 18 2015 20:55 GMT
#419
^ Wow, this is very sad and I also do agree that this whole story (Z)EffOrt told isn't too far from the truth.

Korean businesses, entertainment, sports, government, and so on all have pieces of inside corruption that rarely ever come to light and this is definitely one sad outcome from it.

Thanks for the excellent summary, I was an (Z)EffOrt fan before this but this makes me want to support him harder toward next SSL11.

(Z)EffOrt hwaiting!
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
January 18 2015 21:14 GMT
#420
^^Thanks for sharing all this, lemmata. Really appreciate all the historical context and perspective to enable a better understanding of things.

Really saddening to hear how players were abused by those in power, particularly purely for financial gain or to rid players for performance slumps. It seems the match-fixing scandal really enabled those in power to make false accusations to justify actions that weren't at all related to the scandal.

This one-sided abuse of power very much reminds me of the shameful (Wiki)"free agency" practices the teams/KeSPA forced upon the players in 2009.
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