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Stork vs Jaedong BW Showmatch on HSC IX Day 3 - Page 4

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derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
June 07 2014 06:22 GMT
#61
Thank you!!!!

if this was bisu vs jaedong i would have come to krefeld now
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
June 07 2014 06:24 GMT
#62
On June 07 2014 12:29 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote:
On June 07 2014 11:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 07 2014 08:06 purakushi wrote:
Hopefully it's more than one game, and they have casters who are at least somewhat familiar with BW.

I'm sure they do. Incontrol is there and he used to be a big BW guy, and honestly most SC2 players have a pretty strong BW background even if they weren't pro players

I don't mean to be rude to Nathanias, but when he was casting the fOrGG vs Jaedong showmatch, he called a relatively normal 3rd as a hidden expansion. So to say SC2 players have a strong BW background isn't necessarily true. But again, respect to Nathanias, I think he's fun to watch for WCS.

Here's to hoping that Apollo, iNcontrol, and White-ra are there to cast.

I agree that Nathanias was pretty clueless at the time of the JD ForGG match, but ever since Nathanias tuned in to the SSL9 finals (he was in the Twitch chat during Sayle's cast), I got the impression that he at least developed some interest in Brood War and looked more into it. I certainly wouldn't count him out if he gets his knowledge base higher.


To be totally transparent, if you were watching live I made sure to say several times I never followed pro BW. I only cast the match because I was the main English stream for the whole SC2 event as well. I don't claim to have any understanding of pro BW even though I began playing in 2004 it was never melee games only customs. I couldn't tell you a single build order for any race

of course I watch some bw stuff these days if it's on, but otherwise I didn't get into esports until sc2 and that's my primary focus
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McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
June 07 2014 06:27 GMT
#63
On June 07 2014 15:12 Jragon wrote:
Nice to see them keeping touch with their roots. Where can we watch this?

It will happen on one of the HSC streams. Look for Home Story Cup in the On Air events
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
June 07 2014 06:31 GMT
#64
Oh shit really? That's awesome!
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
June 07 2014 06:34 GMT
#65
On June 07 2014 15:24 Nathanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 12:29 HyralGambit wrote:
On June 07 2014 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote:
On June 07 2014 11:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 07 2014 08:06 purakushi wrote:
Hopefully it's more than one game, and they have casters who are at least somewhat familiar with BW.

I'm sure they do. Incontrol is there and he used to be a big BW guy, and honestly most SC2 players have a pretty strong BW background even if they weren't pro players

I don't mean to be rude to Nathanias, but when he was casting the fOrGG vs Jaedong showmatch, he called a relatively normal 3rd as a hidden expansion. So to say SC2 players have a strong BW background isn't necessarily true. But again, respect to Nathanias, I think he's fun to watch for WCS.

Here's to hoping that Apollo, iNcontrol, and White-ra are there to cast.

I agree that Nathanias was pretty clueless at the time of the JD ForGG match, but ever since Nathanias tuned in to the SSL9 finals (he was in the Twitch chat during Sayle's cast), I got the impression that he at least developed some interest in Brood War and looked more into it. I certainly wouldn't count him out if he gets his knowledge base higher.


To be totally transparent, if you were watching live I made sure to say several times I never followed pro BW. I only cast the match because I was the main English stream for the whole SC2 event as well. I don't claim to have any understanding of pro BW even though I began playing in 2004 it was never melee games only customs. I couldn't tell you a single build order for any race

of course I watch some bw stuff these days if it's on, but otherwise I didn't get into esports until sc2 and that's my primary focus

Yeah, it doesn't help that the BW Terran players are not doing too well either these days. ex-STX SouLs Modesty is just killing Terrans left right and center with his godly 77% winrate in ZvT with his new Guardian/Devourer meta :p
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
June 07 2014 06:37 GMT
#66
On June 07 2014 15:24 Nathanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 12:29 HyralGambit wrote:
On June 07 2014 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote:
On June 07 2014 11:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 07 2014 08:06 purakushi wrote:
Hopefully it's more than one game, and they have casters who are at least somewhat familiar with BW.

I'm sure they do. Incontrol is there and he used to be a big BW guy, and honestly most SC2 players have a pretty strong BW background even if they weren't pro players

I don't mean to be rude to Nathanias, but when he was casting the fOrGG vs Jaedong showmatch, he called a relatively normal 3rd as a hidden expansion. So to say SC2 players have a strong BW background isn't necessarily true. But again, respect to Nathanias, I think he's fun to watch for WCS.

Here's to hoping that Apollo, iNcontrol, and White-ra are there to cast.

I agree that Nathanias was pretty clueless at the time of the JD ForGG match, but ever since Nathanias tuned in to the SSL9 finals (he was in the Twitch chat during Sayle's cast), I got the impression that he at least developed some interest in Brood War and looked more into it. I certainly wouldn't count him out if he gets his knowledge base higher.


To be totally transparent, if you were watching live I made sure to say several times I never followed pro BW. I only cast the match because I was the main English stream for the whole SC2 event as well. I don't claim to have any understanding of pro BW even though I began playing in 2004 it was never melee games only customs. I couldn't tell you a single build order for any race

of course I watch some bw stuff these days if it's on, but otherwise I didn't get into esports until sc2 and that's my primary focus

Nothing to fret about. The cast was pretty entertaining, and its 100 times better that 12,5 minutes of radio silence, especially since the game was so-so.
Thanks and looking forward to more such coincidences
illusiongamer
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico377 Posts
June 07 2014 06:59 GMT
#67
Nice timing to visit TL again.
"I'm such a fan of hooking" - Kaci Aitchison TI2013
JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-07 07:07:37
June 07 2014 07:06 GMT
#68
On June 07 2014 15:24 Nathanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 12:29 HyralGambit wrote:
On June 07 2014 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote:
On June 07 2014 11:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 07 2014 08:06 purakushi wrote:
Hopefully it's more than one game, and they have casters who are at least somewhat familiar with BW.

I'm sure they do. Incontrol is there and he used to be a big BW guy, and honestly most SC2 players have a pretty strong BW background even if they weren't pro players

I don't mean to be rude to Nathanias, but when he was casting the fOrGG vs Jaedong showmatch, he called a relatively normal 3rd as a hidden expansion. So to say SC2 players have a strong BW background isn't necessarily true. But again, respect to Nathanias, I think he's fun to watch for WCS.

Here's to hoping that Apollo, iNcontrol, and White-ra are there to cast.

I agree that Nathanias was pretty clueless at the time of the JD ForGG match, but ever since Nathanias tuned in to the SSL9 finals (he was in the Twitch chat during Sayle's cast), I got the impression that he at least developed some interest in Brood War and looked more into it. I certainly wouldn't count him out if he gets his knowledge base higher.


To be totally transparent, if you were watching live I made sure to say several times I never followed pro BW. I only cast the match because I was the main English stream for the whole SC2 event as well. I don't claim to have any understanding of pro BW even though I began playing in 2004 it was never melee games only customs. I couldn't tell you a single build order for any race

of course I watch some bw stuff these days if it's on, but otherwise I didn't get into esports until sc2 and that's my primary focus

I'm just thankful there was a showmatch lol
edit: also the casting/commentary was actually kinda funny
"THE MARINES ARE DYING ITS INCREDIBLE" :D
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
June 07 2014 07:22 GMT
#69
On June 07 2014 15:34 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 15:24 Nathanias wrote:
On June 07 2014 12:29 HyralGambit wrote:
On June 07 2014 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote:
On June 07 2014 11:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 07 2014 08:06 purakushi wrote:
Hopefully it's more than one game, and they have casters who are at least somewhat familiar with BW.

I'm sure they do. Incontrol is there and he used to be a big BW guy, and honestly most SC2 players have a pretty strong BW background even if they weren't pro players

I don't mean to be rude to Nathanias, but when he was casting the fOrGG vs Jaedong showmatch, he called a relatively normal 3rd as a hidden expansion. So to say SC2 players have a strong BW background isn't necessarily true. But again, respect to Nathanias, I think he's fun to watch for WCS.

Here's to hoping that Apollo, iNcontrol, and White-ra are there to cast.

I agree that Nathanias was pretty clueless at the time of the JD ForGG match, but ever since Nathanias tuned in to the SSL9 finals (he was in the Twitch chat during Sayle's cast), I got the impression that he at least developed some interest in Brood War and looked more into it. I certainly wouldn't count him out if he gets his knowledge base higher.


To be totally transparent, if you were watching live I made sure to say several times I never followed pro BW. I only cast the match because I was the main English stream for the whole SC2 event as well. I don't claim to have any understanding of pro BW even though I began playing in 2004 it was never melee games only customs. I couldn't tell you a single build order for any race

of course I watch some bw stuff these days if it's on, but otherwise I didn't get into esports until sc2 and that's my primary focus

Yeah, it doesn't help that the BW Terran players are not doing too well either these days. ex-STX SouLs Modesty is just killing Terrans left right and center with his godly 77% winrate in ZvT with his new Guardian/Devourer meta :p


Whoah do you have a sample of a game ? i don't follow BW nowadays but i would love to see it
this is a quote
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1977 Posts
June 07 2014 07:26 GMT
#70
On June 07 2014 08:12 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 08:04 ArvickHero wrote:
i heard rumors that jaedong still plays BW the side and is ranked quite decently, like B rank on fish or so. I think this will be quite one-sided lol


when was the match vs forgg then ?
cuz in the yt he looks baaaadd


I guess he was so frustrated about his "low" skill that he started training again :p
Go STORK!
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
June 07 2014 07:28 GMT
#71
On June 07 2014 10:00 Caas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 09:58 arb wrote:
On June 07 2014 09:19 Tanzklaue wrote:
On June 07 2014 08:04 ArvickHero wrote:
i heard rumors that jaedong still plays BW the side and is ranked quite decently, like B rank on fish or so. I think this will be quite one-sided lol

how good is that in sc2 terms? master in korea?

lol.

if there was a league like 10 above grandmaster it would be somewhere around there im sure.


lol.
C- ranked players get to masters in sc2


Can confirm, was C- in iccup and got master in sc2.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50577 Posts
June 07 2014 07:29 GMT
#72
I'm somewhat curious but I'd say jaedong has this.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
June 07 2014 07:31 GMT
#73
On June 07 2014 16:22 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 15:34 HyralGambit wrote:
On June 07 2014 15:24 Nathanias wrote:
On June 07 2014 12:29 HyralGambit wrote:
On June 07 2014 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote:
On June 07 2014 11:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 07 2014 08:06 purakushi wrote:
Hopefully it's more than one game, and they have casters who are at least somewhat familiar with BW.

I'm sure they do. Incontrol is there and he used to be a big BW guy, and honestly most SC2 players have a pretty strong BW background even if they weren't pro players

I don't mean to be rude to Nathanias, but when he was casting the fOrGG vs Jaedong showmatch, he called a relatively normal 3rd as a hidden expansion. So to say SC2 players have a strong BW background isn't necessarily true. But again, respect to Nathanias, I think he's fun to watch for WCS.

Here's to hoping that Apollo, iNcontrol, and White-ra are there to cast.

I agree that Nathanias was pretty clueless at the time of the JD ForGG match, but ever since Nathanias tuned in to the SSL9 finals (he was in the Twitch chat during Sayle's cast), I got the impression that he at least developed some interest in Brood War and looked more into it. I certainly wouldn't count him out if he gets his knowledge base higher.


To be totally transparent, if you were watching live I made sure to say several times I never followed pro BW. I only cast the match because I was the main English stream for the whole SC2 event as well. I don't claim to have any understanding of pro BW even though I began playing in 2004 it was never melee games only customs. I couldn't tell you a single build order for any race

of course I watch some bw stuff these days if it's on, but otherwise I didn't get into esports until sc2 and that's my primary focus

Yeah, it doesn't help that the BW Terran players are not doing too well either these days. ex-STX SouLs Modesty is just killing Terrans left right and center with his godly 77% winrate in ZvT with his new Guardian/Devourer meta :p


Whoah do you have a sample of a game ? i don't follow BW nowadays but i would love to see it

Here you go <3

Modesty vs ex-SKT sSak in SSL9 Ro32 Group C Winner's Match:



Modesty vs ex-Woongjin PianO in Sonic Proleague (KT vs Woongjin):



Modesty vs ex-CJ Mong in 41SL (which Modesty won) Ro8 Game 4:



Modesty vs ex-CJ Mong in 2nd LoveTV SL Ro8 Game 1:

Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
June 07 2014 07:56 GMT
#74
lol hyral
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
June 07 2014 08:09 GMT
#75
Jaedong vs stork in the 2009 wcg finals is one of the first pro BW matches I watched. Can't wait for this!
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
alexander670
Profile Joined February 2014
Australia14 Posts
June 07 2014 08:43 GMT
#76
Wow this is going to be brilliant!
Is it just one match or what?
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
June 07 2014 09:04 GMT
#77
I only watched the first two of those vods, but I'm not sure if you can call it "new guardian/devourer meta" when the terrans in those games were already dead to muta stack micro.
11 years and counting- TL #680
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
June 07 2014 09:09 GMT
#78
i hope it is best of eleven
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
June 07 2014 09:24 GMT
#79
Somewhere between 7-9 pm? Ill wait for the VOD instead..
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
June 07 2014 09:32 GMT
#80
On June 07 2014 18:04 Monsen wrote:
I only watched the first two of those vods, but I'm not sure if you can call it "new guardian/devourer meta" when the terrans in those games were already dead to muta stack micro.

Yeah, you can say that for such a build to work, you need good Muta micro for it to be effective. It's just that usually, you don't see a Zerg commit to making Mutalisks the entire game to win and/or you see them transition into Lurkers and Hive tech to get Defilers with Dark Swarm. It's just him looking to end the game with effective harassment, forcing the Terrans to go bonkers while having to defend Mutalisks and making a significant amount of Turrets to capitalize with Guardians to end the game.
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